Irony at Wal*Mart

[tcox4freedom]

^^^ I agree^^^

I think it's primarily for safety and liability reasons.

1. Someone walking through the store with a rifle/shotgun could panic the sheeple and cause someone to make a "man with a gun" call to the popo.

2. IF a panic set in, a CC newbie may even want to be a hero and take the "man with a gun" out.

3. Some BG's may want to try to steal your new gun.

4. Walking in a Walmart parking lot carrying a long gun could get you shot or hassled by an over zeolous rookie LEO.

(I got stopped "felony" style one "night" by a passing "rookie" cop because I came out of a resturant holding an umbrella that he thought looked like a shotgun.)

5. Walking through the store with a WW manager helps you look more like a customer than a potential BG.

6. They probably have to do it for insurance/security reasons.

 

[gdcleanfun]

^^^ I agree^^^
I think it's primarily for safety and liability reasons.
1. Someone walking through the store with a rifle/shotgun could panic the sheeple and cause someone to make a "man with a gun" call to the popo.
2. IF a panic set in, a CC newbie may even want to be a hero and take the "man with a gun" out.
3. Some BG's may want to try to steal your new gun.
4. Walking in a Walmart parking lot carrying a long gun could get you shot or hassled by an over zeolous rookie LEO.
(I got stopped "felony" style one "night" by a passing "rookie" cop because I came out of a resturant holding an umbrella that he thought looked like a shotgun.)
5. Walking through the store with a WW manager helps you look more like a customer than a potential BG.
6. They probably have to do it for insurance/security reasons.

1. The rifle was boxed. Sorry, but I don't remember saying whether the customer was male or female.
2. This could happen anyway, regardless if customer walked thru the store with boxed rifle.
3. BG could steal anything in your cart or on your person.
4. See #1.
5. What is a WW manager? And, if the item is boxed, please explain to me how someone looks like a BG?
6. Those are the reasons that the customer and spouse were questioning the policy.

 

[BearTaylor]

Our local Walmart stopped selling guns over a year ago. The sporting goods dept is not the same anymore.

 

[NavyLCDR]

I would hope the buyer whould have enough intelligence to do their shopping FIRST and then go buy the gun. If they are stoopid enough to leave a gun in the car after everyone watches them put it in there, then turn around and go back in, they are probably not intelligent enough to be handling a gun anyway.

That's not the way it works. Instead you insist that the manager follow you around the store while you finish your shopping! :haha:

Actually, in many states such as Washington, it is the law that requires an employee to escort a purchased gun out the door.

Here's one for you - entered a retail sporting goods store here in Washington to buy a black powder cap and ball revolver open carrying a .45 loaded with 11 rounds. 1st the state of Washington requires the state background check form to be filled out for the black powder revolver even though it is exempt by both state law and exempt from NICs by Federal law. 2nd, I had to be escorted out of the store with this revolver in the plastic package (it was a set that you buy off the shelf or mail order with the revolver, balls, powder measure all in a plastic package) by an unarmed store clerk while I am open carrying my pistol which, in Washington, no license is required to do!

 

[gdcleanfun]

That's not the way it works. Instead you insist that the manager follow you around the store while you finish your shopping! :haha:

Actually, in many states such as Washington, it is the law that requires an employee to escort a purchased gun out the door.

Here's one for you - entered a retail sporting goods store here in Washington to buy a black powder cap and ball revolver open carrying a .45 loaded with 11 rounds. 1st the state of Washington requires the state background check form to be filled out for the black powder revolver even though it is exempt by both state law and exempt from NICs by Federal law. 2nd, I had to be escorted out of the store with this revolver in the plastic package (it was a set that you buy off the shelf or mail order with the revolver, balls, powder measure all in a plastic package) by an unarmed store clerk while I am open carrying my pistol which, in Washington, no license is required to do!

Just as ironic!:haha:

 

[SpaceFrank]

It's the same story at Academy. I think a big part of the reasoning comes from the near-fanatical attention to maintaining an accurate inventory count on firearms. We count the guns every morning and every night to make sure the inventory is correct. Periodically, they even scan every single gun in the store to check that all the serial numbers match what's in the system. At the front of the store, there is a log sheet where we make a mark for every gun that enters or leaves the store, and we don't mark down a sold gun until after we walk the customer outside with it. Keep in mind that OC is not legal in Texas angry, so they also want to stop the customer from continuing to shop in the store while carrying it.

The situation the OP described in Wal-Mart, however, sounds like serious overkill.

 

[PascalFleischman]

Hmmm, I bought a Ruger 10/.22 about a year and a half ago from the Bass Pro in Memphis. I'm all but sure that I paid in cash after my my background check, and I walked out the door with a boxed rifle. No babysitting escorts required.

 

[PascalFleischman]

That being said, might there be any obligation to tip your escort in a similar fashion to the kid bagging your groceries and putting them in the car?

 

[ozarkgunner]

I worked a K-mart 12 years ago, the biggest in the would thus far, Yuma AZ. Wow, I know. Any ways, I was s porting goods "Sales associate", and had to do the same thing with rifle purchases. I was never told why this had to be, just that we had to carry the weapon to the customers vehicle.
i thought the near about the same thing. While CC wasn't a big deal to me at the time, I wondered what is to stop the person from loading the weapon in their vehicle, then coming and opening fire. Whether they loaded in the vehicle or in the store, how much of a difference would it make.

 

[KimberPB]

Back before I started reloading they started walking people up front to pay for ammo. When I ask why they started doing that I was told the following. They had gotten complaints from shoppers that they felt uncomfortable seeing people walking around the store with a bag full of ammo.

 

[DKA]

The Wal Mart Mgr here does walk to the door and then gives the gun to the buyer. No radio or conversation.

 

[6shootercarry]

Perhaps have the customer come around to a shipping and loading door/dock at the rear of the store and load it there?

It would alleviate the need for all the fuss and radio communication.

I know I know… too easy and it makes sense…:wacko:

 

[KathleenElsie]

Seems to me that the stores ten need to walk me out when I purchase kitchen knives, box cutters, paint thinner or other chemicals (after all I could make a bomb with this) or any item that has a caution warning that it could be harmful to humans.:girl_wacko:
Also why are other people looking into your bags at what you purchased inside the store. What if it is a BIBLE or X rated movie are they going to complain about these also?:girl_wacko:

 

[Minuteman]

I think the policy is due to insurance liability more than anything else.

 

[gdcleanfun]

I think the policy is due to insurance liability more than anything else.

How's that?

 

[Minuteman]

How's that?

If some nut purchased a weapon at the store and without leaving the store blew away a few folks, you don't think the store would be held responsible and sued by all concerned. What world do you live in?

 

[Glock Fan]

If some nut purchased a weapon at the store and without leaving the store blew away a few folks, you don't think the store would be held responsible and sued by all concerned. What world do you live in?

Wouldn't make much of a difference if the "nut case" simply took the firearm out of the box in the parking lot, loaded up and went back into the store.

I think that "what world do you live in?" remark was uncalled for.



gf

 

[gdcleanfun]

Wouldn't make much of a difference if the "nut case" simply took the firearm out of the box in the parking lot, loaded up and went back into the store.

I think that "what world do you live in?" remark was uncalled for.



gf

My thoughts exactly! Insurance liability? Let's think this through. What difference would it make if someone unloaded from inside or outside, or walked outside and came back in, or never left, or whatever? They'd be sued anyway! I wonder what the insurance stats might be on this, if any. Maybe the insurance companies just run scared and try anything they can think of to hedge their bets, even if it makes no sense.

And, thanks, gf.

 

[williemartin]

Here is what I gather from this:
1) We can diffuse a situation by displaying a weapon. BG will not attempt a attack on an armed citizen.
2) BG's are cowards. Display and they are likley to run like a cockroach from a light.
3) I carry a 'pocket' pistol for convience. My issue is how much impact will a small handgun have vs a larger sidearm?
4) I'm inclined to carry my larger weapon for the reason that if I display the larger weapon I will not have to fire it. If the 'pocket' is drawn there might be less of an 'AW CRAP' from the BG.

Something to ponder.

 

[NavyLCDR]

4) I'm inclined to carry my larger weapon for the reason that if I display the larger weapon I will not have to fire it. If the 'pocket' is drawn there might be less of an 'AW CRAP' from the BG.

Hey, but you might have a better shot at him if he is doubled over from laughing so hard! :sarcastic: