Injustice Exposed Secret code on DD214
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fstroupe
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This is a very abbreviated blurb of the story, which was in three parts. Just to note, I am a late Cold War era vet, but have lots of Vietnam Vet friends so I am interested.
Edwin Crosby was a Vietnam Vet. One night after he returned he heard Walter Cronkite say on the CBS Evening News in 1974 that there had been Congressional testimony by the DOD and VA that there had been a secret code on Vets DD214s called “spin codes” and that they were not going to be put on them anymore. This affected probably 200K, people with dishonorable and bad conduct discharges.
He was #1 on the list to be hired for a NYS civil service job in 1974, but they hired people down the list. He filed an EEOC complaint but lost. Later he found out more details about the codes, and filed in Federal Court that he didn’t get the job due to the codes.
He has fought this since then and still fighting it. He has laid it out to federal judges, and actually had a meeting in the early 80s with Senator Joseph Biden and USN Commander John McCain (who would soon be elected as a representative to the US House from Arizona)
True or not? The code is found in block 12b of your DD214, and says SPN XXX if you are Army, and SDN XXX if USN or AF.
His code is SPN 411. I happened to do a search to see if I could find a photo of a DD214 to keep from going back through the video…and the first one I found had a code of SPN 411, the same as his.
These codes are supposedly for any number of undesirable conditions that the person was when he left the service, and make the type of discharge, including honorable, irrelevant.
He (supposedly) found tons of proof over the years, including that vets benefits were being paid to ghost personnel using case numbers from real vets that were denied benefits because of these codes, and that the codes were also distributed to major corporations to prevent them from hiring these people.
I personally don't know whether to believe it or not. I nearly stopped watching when it was mentioned later in the story that he had been a classified operations/black helicopter kind of guy, but had gotten pretty interested by that point. Met a lot of secret squirrel posers over the years and usually question when it comes out about someone.
If you want any more detail, you gotta watch the video.
Edwin Crosby was a Vietnam Vet. One night after he returned he heard Walter Cronkite say on the CBS Evening News in 1974 that there had been Congressional testimony by the DOD and VA that there had been a secret code on Vets DD214s called “spin codes” and that they were not going to be put on them anymore. This affected probably 200K, people with dishonorable and bad conduct discharges.
He was #1 on the list to be hired for a NYS civil service job in 1974, but they hired people down the list. He filed an EEOC complaint but lost. Later he found out more details about the codes, and filed in Federal Court that he didn’t get the job due to the codes.
He has fought this since then and still fighting it. He has laid it out to federal judges, and actually had a meeting in the early 80s with Senator Joseph Biden and USN Commander John McCain (who would soon be elected as a representative to the US House from Arizona)
True or not? The code is found in block 12b of your DD214, and says SPN XXX if you are Army, and SDN XXX if USN or AF.
His code is SPN 411. I happened to do a search to see if I could find a photo of a DD214 to keep from going back through the video…and the first one I found had a code of SPN 411, the same as his.
These codes are supposedly for any number of undesirable conditions that the person was when he left the service, and make the type of discharge, including honorable, irrelevant.
He (supposedly) found tons of proof over the years, including that vets benefits were being paid to ghost personnel using case numbers from real vets that were denied benefits because of these codes, and that the codes were also distributed to major corporations to prevent them from hiring these people.
I personally don't know whether to believe it or not. I nearly stopped watching when it was mentioned later in the story that he had been a classified operations/black helicopter kind of guy, but had gotten pretty interested by that point. Met a lot of secret squirrel posers over the years and usually question when it comes out about someone.
If you want any more detail, you gotta watch the video.
Seeya
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thanks fstroupe I was called away before I could reply with the gist.
Blacksheep
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Do your own research and you will find this guy is a self serving conspiracy theory fool. The code he alleges is hidden is in fact listed for anyone to read and describes why your enlistment ended. To be honest, this guy is worse than Obama at distorting the truth. Another of his theories is John McCain threw the election and 9-11 was an inside job. He is a self proclaimed expert on Constitutional Rights. Be honest, this guy is trying to get something for nothing. Just my two cents. (He has been treated for free by the VA since his discharge.)
fstroupe
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NP....BTW, thanks for posting this. Very interesting. My questioning of the legitimacy has absolutely no reflection on you. I will be passing it on to others.
fstroupe
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You beat me to the punch of researching the guy. Thanks.
Wonder if he is kin to David Crosby. I swear they could be brothers.
Seeya
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I didn't watch the video so all I know is the few posts on here but I do have some comments. Since the Viet Nam war a "secret" code has been put on everyone's DD214 telling companies who not to hire. This secret has been distributed to all of the Federal hiring agencies and all of the major corporations and is commonly used to discriminate against anyone who has this "secret" code on their DD214. For 40 years this "secret" code has been around and commonly applied to hiring practices for governmental agencies and major corporations, and is used in the providing of VA benefits especially health care. Yet this remains a "SECRET" code and one of the codes tell whether or not they actually worked on the alien space craft at area 54 doing research on the anti-gravity system that was used in the gulf war but no one knows about it.
The most remarkable thing about this code is that with probably a million people knowing about it, it still remained a secret. I would say that is a better kept secret than the USAF matter-anti matter powered drones cruising unseen over Cuba monitoring the situation there.
The most remarkable thing about this code is that with probably a million people knowing about it, it still remained a secret. I would say that is a better kept secret than the USAF matter-anti matter powered drones cruising unseen over Cuba monitoring the situation there.
Some info ob SPN Codes: Military Separation Codes & Reenlistment Eligibility Codes
I thought they were supposed to be secret codes and you say that they are on the Interenet. I do see where it says they no longer publish them to the general public so this sounds to be more along the lines of trying to make the Boy Scouts into a secret indoctrination society.
fstroupe
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Most of the story takes place in the '80s and '90s.
I agree with Treo....by now someone would have written a book on it.
Treo
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Fairly common occurence around these parts
ToddR
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Humble are we??
Treo
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