indiana to canada?

bccowgirl89

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Anyone no if u can cross the border with a pistol if u have a personal protection permit?
 
I am a Detroit Michigan attorney. I can see Canada from my office windows. One or twice a year I have the misfortune of referring a firearm violation case to a Canadian attorney where an American tries to carry a US legal pistol into Canada. The results aren't pretty. Normally, they are detained without bond and are looking at a mandatory two year prison sentence.

Long guns can be carried into Canada if you fill out all the correct paperwork. Pistols cannot be carried in with very rare exceptions (e.g. US law enforcement working with Canadian law enforcement, immigration officials in hot pursuit, US Secret Service security details, US Coast Guard Ships docked in Canadian ports, etc.). If you are entering and leaving Canada through the same port of entry, there are several nearby places to legally store your firearm.

Don't think about not declaring it, we share a ton of data with the Canadians. They can now see everything that a US cop can see. I can't prove it, but I suspect that they are seeing using CPLs on your data profile. Even my brother who is a Michigan Sheriff is routinely grilled about the guns. When I went for my Nexus interview (fast track border crossing) the guy said to me: "you know your CPL isn't good in Canada." I had never mentioned one.

Stu
 
NO handguns in Ontario, can't even cross with a fuzz-buster (radar detector) in your car or truck. Rifles & shotguns allowed with a limited amount of ammo.
 
I thought I heard somewhere that Canada has relaxed some of their gun laws because they finally came to the conclusion that the anti gun laws weren't working. Not much detail but I think the relaxation had to do with mandatory registration of firearms.
 
We travel to Canada on a regular basis and have to make sure we don't have firearms or ammo in the car.
Unless you are going hunting or to a formal competition, it's almost impossible to take firearms into the country.
There is a permit process you have to follow. As for pistols, I believe it is illegal to take anything smaller than a .38 as they believe smaller caliber pistols can be too small and easily concealed....so they are simply forbidden.

Also, as stated above, don't leave ammo in your vehicle. It's my understanding that a loaded magazine or box of ammo will get you in a sufficient amount of trouble to ruin your vacation without proper permits.

Bottom line....leave your guns and ammo home if going to Canada.....unless you want to stay a couple of days at the "Tin Cup Hotel".
 
I don't know what a persons's definition of visiting Canada regularly is. My wife works there two weeks a month. I know daily commuters, and I know people who say the annual pilgrimage to Granny's for Canadian Thanksgiving is "regular."

For those who really go there frequently, you can get a restricted weapons permit that will give you the right to transport a firearm in your trunk:

Visitors / Non-Residents - Royal Canadian Mounted Police

Yanks can get a Canadian PAL, but you need to take their course. You can even upgrade it to get a pistol license, but it is no CPL.

Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course - Royal Canadian Mounted Police
 
Thanks for the info and links Stu,
By regularly, I mean that we have a seasonal property in Canada and try to spend at least summer weekends there and try to commute from there as often as we can.
As for the info I was given, I'm not sure if it was ignorance of the law or mis-information.
We met an off-duty customs officer at a restaurant we frequent and have seen him many times there. We explained that we have CCW permits in the US, and wondered whether there was some way we could bring orur firearms into Canada when commuting. We were told that we could not bring our concealed weapons into Canada, but if we were going hunting or to a competition, we could get a temporary permit.
As for our handguns, we need complete concealment and pocket carry 95% of the time, so some of them are prohibited based on barrel length...so it's a moot point for those.

As for transport without a permit, he was very clear that it was a VERY BAD IDEA. That includes the weapon and even transporting ammo will get you more grief than you'd ever want.

Once again, thanks for the factual info and links. I will be checking out where I can take the safety courses to get prepared for next summer. It will sure beat the 20+ mile round-trip home to put the guns in the safe when we are on business less than a mile from the border crossing.
 

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