Incident

gkeil961

gkeil961

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Little story to tell, my friend is a barber and this afternoon around 12 there was a guy in the shop, he went to bend over and out fell his 9mm derringer, out hit the floor and discharged a round, the round went through my buddy barber chair and into his rear end. The bullet is going to remain in his rear, because they said out would be too harmful to remove it. He is okay other then being really sore, and is limping alot.

Please guys if you carry, make sure that you have a holster that is quality and MADE for that weapon. This was an accident, but could of been avoided if in the correct size holster

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Hope your friend is okay. Excellent point on the holster.

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of derringer was it, and how was he carrying it (holster, pocket, etc)? The Bond Arms seem like well-made guns and include a holster but I wonder how safe they are to carry.
 
See, it can be a pain in the a$$ to not carry in a proper holster. (someone was bound to say it)

When I first started carrying and before I recieved training and read very much at all about it, I carried a PM9 in a coat breast pocket and it fell out onto the front porch of a customer while I was setting up her oxygen. She said "bang bang" and smiled. ...Luckily.

So, yes, the point to all this is "proper holster used properly", so we can breathe easy about it, eh?
 
Not an accident, not having your carry gun secured is NEGLIGENCE and the perpetrator need his a$$ beat soundly.
 
Be nice if the guy with the gun got charged with something. Or had his homeowner's insurance dinged. Or something. Really hope he does not get off scot-free. As others have said, this was criminal negligence, not an accident.
 
There are no holster laws so it would only be willfull negligence if there were. He probably will not face any legal charges but can expect a civil suit from the guy with a slug In his a$$
 
Wow...this could have been much worse than being just a pain in the ass. I am of the mind set that a holster is a must have when concealed carrying. Not only does it protect the firearm, it also keeps it secure and offers a sound platform for a clean draw if worn properly.
 
Thought - Duty Owed, Duty Breached, Injury / Damages = Negligence and $$$$ ask any attorney. Those are the rules.
The guy had a duty to secure his weapon, he chose not to, injury ensued. He OWES. - It might not be "criminal negligence, but its negligence regardless. This is of course based on the story above.

Thought two - we have surgeons who can do brain surgery, but can't get a bullet out of a guys butt? Really must be in a bad spot. He'll knows its there every time it gets cold!

Hope your friend gets better.

(I am not an attorney, didn't play one on TV and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.)
 
I just can't stress enough guy's and gal's if your going to carry get the training. Nothings anymore dangerous than thinking you know what your doing when you don't. Obviously this guy had no intent to harm anyone and probably thought he knew what he was doing. But it is very obvious to anyone who has had good training from the right organization that this guy had no idea what he was doing. Accidents don't just happen without a reason and this one should have never happened period. If your going to carry get the training!
 
My friend said the guy is a customer of his for about the last 30 years, and is but going to seek any legal action on his behalf..... However he does have to deal with the PD, they seized his weapon, and I'm not sure but I would imagine that this is at least a citation.
 
I know a fellow who was carrying a 22 cal. derringer in his waistband. It slid down his leg hit the floor and discharged. Three of his toes paid the price. He had let the hammer all the way down on a live round and was carrying it that way. If he had pulled the hammer back a little after letting it all the way down it would have engaged the safety.
 
Quality equipment makes the difference, using your brain and practice safe gun handling makes all the difference.
 
Nightmare45 said:
Quality equipment makes the difference, using your brain and practice safe gun handling makes all the difference.
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This is a great story to quote to anyone who says they can't "afford" a holster or find them "uncomfortable." I have a Taurus TCP/738 that I carry in a Stoner wallet holster. This gorgeous black leather beauty looks like a wallet in my back pocket, protects the trigger and barrel and stays in the pocket when drawn, providing for quick presentation. This holster was $38 at a gun show and derringer pocket holsters are even cheaper. Stellarrigs.com even makes Kydex holsters that hang by a chain from your neck to give an even deeper concealment option for the same price range.

If you can afford the gun, He'll, if you can afford the AMMO for the gun, you can afford a quality holster. You don't have an excuse. Remember the famous saying, "Excuses are like a$$holes, everyone has one and they all stink."
 
Wow - im glad it wasn't worse for your buddy. Hope he heals well. Things could have ended up bad for the carrier. Hope he's counting his blessing that he didn't cause more damage.

Rj
 
gkeil961 said:
Please guys if you carry, make sure that you have a holster that is quality and MADE for that weapon. This was an accident, but could of been avoided if in the correct size holster
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This was no accident, this was negligence.
 
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