im in illinois today i went to Indiana to try and shoot my pistol but they told me that i didnt have a ccw and i should not of brought it into the state . how do i get a ccw so i can shoot in the state of indiana ? please help
None of this makes any sense. A CCW is not required by law to drive to the range. Now, while doing so, your handguns should be unloaded and locked in the trunk. As for your AR-15, not only do you not need a CCW to transport it in IN, but while in IN you may have it loaded while it is in the passenger compartment as long as it remains in plain view (assuming it is a rifle). Of course, the folks at the range probably would like you to unload it before taking it out of your car. Even if it is an AR pistol, you would just have to keep it unloaded and in the trunk, but there is no reason you would need a CCW to go to the range with it.o i do but it was just convient to go there its like 30 min away and i could shoot my AR-15 there also i wil have to look for an outdoor range here in illinois
Wow, my bad. Sheesh, if you can't take your gun to the range, where can you take it? Lame. I am curious though, what about a gunsmith/ gun dealer who also has a range on his premisis? It does not specify that it must be to have it repaired.Under the letter of IC 35-47-2-2, in IN you do need a LTC to carry handgun to and from any place except your place of business, residence or gunsmith. There is no exemption for going to a range.
The IC is pretty clear. You can buy one and take one in for repair outside of transporting it to and from your home or place of business. If your handgun does not need repair then obviously you're not taking it to a place of repair. You might be able to get away under the letter of IC to use the range at the place of purchase immediately after you bought it.Wow, my bad. Sheesh, if you can't take your gun to the range, where can you take it? Lame. I am curious though, what about a gunsmith/ gun dealer who also has a range on his premisis? It does not specify that it must be to have it repaired.
Yes it does, Link Removed states;Wow, my bad. Sheesh, if you can't take your gun to the range, where can you take it? Lame. I am curious though, what about a gunsmith/gun dealer who also has a range on his premisis? It does not specify that it must be to have it repaired.
One of the things that good CCW instructors do is think like an attorney; particularly a DA, prosecutor or plaintiff's counsel in the case of civil suits. Intent factors heavily into law. Did the defendant intend to have their firearm repaired? If not, they were not taking it to a place of repair as repairs were not needed. That's a very simple argument to win in court. I don't have a law degree and I could win that one. Also keep in mind that an IN range advised the OP that he needs some sort of carry license or permit to bring his handguns. Given that information I think you'd be treading on very thin ice with your argument.I'm not saying you're wrong, I've already admitted that I was. To that end, I too would recommend the same. My point now is that I find the wording to be unclear in that "to a place of repair", in my opinion, does not necessarily mean to be repaired. The way I interpret it, someone could drive back and forth from their home to a gunsmith even if their gun doesn't need any work. I know it's a stretch, and why would anyone want to do that anyway. But if there were a gunsmith with a range on his premisis...
The question is do you want to be the test case? $26 to Centre County PA is cheap insurance that you won't be if you don't live in IN. I don't see it as ambiguous. It's pretty clear to me what you can without some sort of license or permit to carry with respect to handguns. I don't argue how asinine it is but it hasn't been a priority of the IN legislature to address. The current Indiana Code is what it is.Again, I'm not saying he doesn't need a LTC, and since IN has the "Qualified License" for target and hunting, it is obvious that he does. Just pointing out that 1) there is ambiguity in the wording, and 2) to require a LTC just to go to the range is asinine, and ought to be changed.
No I don't want to be the test case, and please realize that do I recomend anyone else try it either. My first post in the thread was what I thought was allowed, but I was wrong and have acknowledged so. Now I'm just pointing out little quirks in the wording and raising hypotheticals. It's what I do. But it is not a recommendation to try acting on those hypotheticals.Also keep in mind that an IN range advised the OP that he needs some sort of carry license or permit to bring his handguns. Given that information I think you'd be treading on very thin ice with your argument.
The question is do you want to be the test case? $26 to Centre County PA is cheap insurance that you won't be if you don't live in IN....... The current Indiana Code is what it is.