I'm sure glad I didn't wait..............

[BassNut]

Figured this was coming......

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[JSDinTexas]

Part of the article says, ""He's just overwhelmed, because all of a sudden all this pent-up demand came forward ..."
What pent-up demand is he talking about? Just curious.
In TX the state (TX DPS) handles licenses and by law must complete the application process and issue the license in 60 days.

 

[Deserteagle]

If they cannot take care of the applications, it shows that both the laws for obtaining permits are not working and should be relaxed, and it shows that gun ownership is an important part of American society.

This county needs to relocate its resources so these applications can be processed and the safety of many people who want permits is not put on hold or in jeopardy.

 

[Rhino]

How can they have a backlog? How long does it take to say "no"? It is Kalifornia after all.

 

[BassNut]

How can they have a backlog? How long does it take to say "no"? It is Kalifornia after all.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you. LOL

California is a MAY issue state. But there are now Counties in California that are issuing basically on a SHALL issue basis. Sacramento included. 2 years ago you wouldn't even bother trying to get a CCW here. With the new Sheriff and new policy the system is being overwhelmed. Also, some are saying that the ANTI'S are trying to flood the system and screw it up for the rest of us. The appointment system is an online automated system and it could happen. It would be hard to stop this if it is true as it is now.

 

[Rhino]

When I lived in Yuba City there was no chance at all of getting a license.

 

[Caribou]

Over 1300 approved in '11. That means about 1500 applications processed last year. That works out to fewer than 120 per month or six per working day. Now if he started with one person on CC applications that means he now has three. That works out to two per employee per day.

The computer runs the prints these days. Instant checks take well, a couple minutes at worst. I spend more time looking at a gun in a gun store before I buy than I do filling out the paperwork, waiting for the approval and paying the cashier. In four hours I could buy at least six guns at least at as many different stores including driving time.

To give the devil his due this sheriff has quadrupled the CC permits in his county in one year. That is an accomplishment. Eighty percent of problems are system problems. He needs to figure a way to work through the system. I don't know the CA statutes or administrative code but it sounded like the State was taking three months to do their part. If you live in CA start bugging your legislators to speed up the process and don't take any excuses as to why it takes so long. Here the State issues all permits and they have 30 days by statute to issue or deny. We are a shall issue so they need a good reason to not issue. Rain, snow, holidays, or the clerks Great Uncle Joe stubbed his toe they shall issue in 30 days or deny for a good reason.

In the next election give this guy some help. Any of you Californians vote in some legislators that believe in the Second Amendment. Do any of you live in this county? Are you retired or between jobs? Volunteer for a day or more per week. The officer on the street can deputize you the sheriff certainly can.

 

[ptco911]

Part of the article says, ""He's just overwhelmed, because all of a sudden all this pent-up demand came forward ..."
What pent-up demand is he talking about? Just curious.
In TX the state (TX DPS) handles licenses and by law must complete the application process and issue the license in 60 days.

Kansas requires the resident's sheriff's department to process the paperwork but the waiting time is similar.

 

[sdprof]

I'm just aghast that any state's processing should require such long times. That in CA you have to make an appointment to even apply - well, that's just ridiculous.

South Dakota law requires the permit to be issued within 30 days, and the norm is that applicants get their temporary permit within a week and the laminated card within 2-3 weeks. I'll take life out here in flyover country, thank you.

 

[BassNut]

I'm just aghast that any state's processing should require such long times. That in CA you have to make an appointment to even apply - well, that's just ridiculous.

South Dakota law requires the permit to be issued within 30 days, and the norm is that applicants get their temporary permit within a week and the laminated card within 2-3 weeks. I'll take life out here in flyover country, thank you.

I hear ya but...........

We are lucky that they even started issuing them out here in CA. Just a few years ago it was a waste of time to even try.

 

[BluesStringer]

I'm just aghast that any state's processing should require such long times. That in CA you have to make an appointment to even apply - well, that's just ridiculous.

South Dakota law requires the permit to be issued within 30 days, and the norm is that applicants get their temporary permit within a week and the laminated card within 2-3 weeks. I'll take life out here in flyover country, thank you.

Move a little further South than the Southern-most Dakota, and you can get your CWP within two minutes of walking through the Sheriff's Office doors. And establishing residency is a matter of showing a rent receipt or payment coupon for the house you live in if it's your first permit application. I moved here from CA in '92, where I had grown up and lived off and on for a lot of my adult life up until then, and had my Alabama CWP after only 5 days in the state. Could've had it the same day we got here, as we had rented a house through telephone and mail.

I don't know when it started loosening up in CA, but for the ~40 years that I lived there off and on, there was no such thing as a CWP for anyone but hi-level private eyes, off-duty cops and some DA's and Prosecutor's Office employees. Any exceptions back then related to knowing someone in high places. In all the time I lived there, all of it since the age of 9 being a gun enthusiast, I only ever met one person with a CWP, a friend of a friend who was a PI that worked a lot with the Santa Cruz Prosecutor's Office.

If I still lived there, I guess I would feel excited about the loosening up, and I'd probably jump through whatever hoops I had to get a permit. But the fact that around 40 years of life-experience informed me that CA would never be fully supportive of my rights, is exactly why I don't live there anymore. We didn't leave only because of 2A considerations, but it was a big part of our decision, and it was also a big part of where we chose to go after deciding to leave. I have never regretted leaving for a second.

Blues

 

[Tucker's Mom]

I hear ya but...........

We are lucky that they even started issuing them out here in CA. Just a few years ago it was a waste of time to even try.

I understand how you Kommiefornian feel. We used to live in Mission Viejo for many years. I wasn't into guns at the time but hubby and kids were (still are...) place was too snooty for my taste. 'Glad to leave the place when we moved here to MO.

 

[vangg23]

That's very good news to hear. More if these application hold ups and eventually they'll have to move to a faster system. Call your state legislatures. Voice your concern. Eventually something will have to give. Have all your buddy's do the same. I'll do it too. Now we are a huge group swarming our legislatures.

 

[Rhino]

That in CA you have to make an appointment to even apply - well, that's just ridiculous.

Not necessarily. You have to make an appointment here in my Ohio county, and for a very good reason. When they passed the concealed carry law and gave county sheriffs the responsibility for issuing the licenses, they provided no funding for extra manpower to do so. Our county sheriff has to process and issue licenses with the personnel he already has on hand, which means it's an extra duty for someone who already has another full time job. If they didn't have an appointment system set up, there would be periods where the people processing the applications would not be able to perform their primary duties due to high numbers of CCW applicants coming through the doors. Indeed, that's the way it was the first year or so before they implemented the appointment system, and before some recent budget crunches forced manpower cutbacks. Requiring appointments can be a very well justified necessity.