Illinois Carry

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Dylan Cherry

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Living in Illinois the only way I can carry is to have an unloaded firearm in a zippered case. This has led us to the "fanny pack loop hole" or "Illinois Carry". I have a Elite Survival Systems, Discreet Security Pack that I carry a Glock 26 in. I was curious what and how other Illinoisans are carrying.
 
I dont live in illinois but work there. The "5th" amendment is a wonderful thing while I'm in Illinois lol :ph34r:
 
I was arrested once in chicago for having a loaded .38 in my vehicle. The case was thrown out, but it is still on file. I was pulled over in chicago and the officer asked for my dl and insurance. He came back to the car and asked me if there was anything in my car he should know about. I told him No there was nothing in my car that he should know about. He then asked me if I still play with guns. I said yes I do still own guns. He asked me to search my car and I said dont you have to have a warrant for that and he said no he does not. So I told him that he could search it and also told him that my firearm was in my car in a closed case with no clip in it. He put handcuffs on me and put me in his car, I told him where the firearm was. They retrieved it and called their superviser. Before it was all over, I had my firearm in my possesion on my way. I carry in a 511 tactical pouch. I carry a fullsize 9mm bersa with 2 full clips in chicago everyday. When you know the law they cannot touch you. I have it sitting on my seat right next to me. If problem arises, I am confident that I will have ample time to lock and load. I try to stay aware at all times. I also carry my reciept for the firearm and the law as well as my foid with me. If the police does pull you over, Just cooperate, and things will go smoother that way. If you are not doing anything wrong there is no reason to rebel.
 
bersath said:
I was arrested once in chicago for having a loaded .38 in my vehicle. The case was thrown out, but it is still on file. I was pulled over in chicago and the officer asked for my dl and insurance. He came back to the car and asked me if there was anything in my car he should know about. I told him No there was nothing in my car that he should know about. He then asked me if I still play with guns. I said yes I do still own guns. He asked me to search my car and I said dont you have to have a warrant for that and he said no he does not. So I told him that he could search it and also told him that my firearm was in my car in a closed case with no clip in it. He put handcuffs on me and put me in his car, I told him where the firearm was. They retrieved it and called their superviser. Before it was all over, I had my firearm in my possesion on my way. I carry in a 511 tactical pouch. I carry a fullsize 9mm bersa with 2 full clips in chicago everyday. When you know the law they cannot touch you. I have it sitting on my seat right next to me. If problem arises, I am confident that I will have ample time to lock and load. I try to stay aware at all times. I also carry my reciept for the firearm and the law as well as my foid with me. If the police does pull you over, Just cooperate, and things will go smoother that way. If you are not doing anything wrong there is no reason to rebel.
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You should have made him get a warrant. It would be interesting what he would say the PC was for the warrant. Usually there is a reason why the officers ask if they can search you or your property...they don't or can't get a warrant. Feel free to say no.
 
442js said:
bersath said:
I was arrested once in chicago for having a loaded .38 in my vehicle. The case was thrown out, but it is still on file. I was pulled over in chicago and the officer asked for my dl and insurance. He came back to the car and asked me if there was anything in my car he should know about. I told him No there was nothing in my car that he should know about. He then asked me if I still play with guns. I said yes I do still own guns. He asked me to search my car and I said dont you have to have a warrant for that and he said no he does not. So I told him that he could search it and also told him that my firearm was in my car in a closed case with no clip in it. He put handcuffs on me and put me in his car, I told him where the firearm was. They retrieved it and called their superviser. Before it was all over, I had my firearm in my possesion on my way. I carry in a 511 tactical pouch. I carry a fullsize 9mm bersa with 2 full clips in chicago everyday. When you know the law they cannot touch you. I have it sitting on my seat right next to me. If problem arises, I am confident that I will have ample time to lock and load. I try to stay aware at all times. I also carry my reciept for the firearm and the law as well as my foid with me. If the police does pull you over, Just cooperate, and things will go smoother that way. If you are not doing anything wrong there is no reason to rebel.
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You should have made him get a warrant. It would be interesting what he would say the PC was for the warrant. Usually there is a reason why the officers ask if they can search you or your property...they don't or can't get a warrant. Feel free to say no.
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Agree...nobody searches my vehicle without going through all the legally required steps
 
bersath said:
Learn these nuts jerk off. You know what I meant. If you don't have anything worth saying to say keep your petty comments to yourself.
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While I agree that it is nit-picking to correct someone on something so trivial as "clips versus magazines", there is also a behavioral expectation on these forums, which is known as civility. Your response dropped below the line with a personal attack.

Was the responder incorrect? If so, defend yourself and your opinion in a civil tone. If the responder was correct, either learn from it silently, or thank him/her for the correction. After all, none of us here knows everything. (There are some here who think they know everything, but you'll soon learn who they are...)

As a new member here, it might serve you well to read, read, and read some more on the forums. Sooner or later, you'll learn that there are always those who "pick-on" terminology such as "pistol versus revolver" and "clip versus magazine" and "carbine versus rifle" and "bullet versus cartridge" and so on - the list is endless.

Please learn to shrug-off the pot-shots made against your future posts or terminology used. If you "go off" over something as innocuous as someone correcting you on the use of a term, ask yourself how you would respond to a punk in a parking lot who insults you and taunts you? This is especially important because you may be carrying a concealed deadly weapon. My advice, which you can ignore or take as honestly-given and friendly advice, is to ignore the taunts, both here and in the parking lot.

And so it goes...
 
I know, but chicago police can be pretty difficult. The cop even told me, that all they have to do is say that i had one in the chamber, but he said how could he sleep at night knowing that he did someone in. I did not have time to go back and forth with them. It was much easier letting them do what they had to do. They could not hold me or arrest me. I made them aware that I am familiar with the IL gun laws and my attorney was ready to fight til the end. They told me I was taking a huge risk. I told them we take risks everyday. They returned my firearm to me and I was on my way.
 
I have been trying to follow the new bill for Illinois carry. I am an Iowa resident that frequents Illinois and would prefer to not take off my gun before the border. Does anyone know how long or what the odds of this bill passing are? I know the NRA is talking about it on occasion, but I don't get updates often and just wondered if there are IL residents who know more than I do.
 
A case is going through Illinois right now that might be poised to allow carry in Illinois, or at least part of Illinois. I first heard about it from a buddy of mine who knew the people involved and now the NRA is advertising it in their grassroots updates by email. Take a look hope for the best.
 
bersath said:
I was arrested once in chicago for having a loaded .38 in my vehicle. The case was thrown out, but it is still on file. I was pulled over in chicago and the officer asked for my dl and insurance. He came back to the car and asked me if there was anything in my car he should know about. I told him No there was nothing in my car that he should know about. He then asked me if I still play with guns. I said yes I do still own guns. He asked me to search my car and I said dont you have to have a warrant for that and he said no he does not. So I told him that he could search it and also told him that my firearm was in my car in a closed case with no clip in it. He put handcuffs on me and put me in his car, I told him where the firearm was. They retrieved it and called their superviser. Before it was all over, I had my firearm in my possesion on my way. I carry in a 511 tactical pouch. I carry a fullsize 9mm bersa with 2 full clips in chicago everyday. When you know the law they cannot touch you. I have it sitting on my seat right next to me. If problem arises, I am confident that I will have ample time to lock and load. I try to stay aware at all times. I also carry my reciept for the firearm and the law as well as my foid with me. If the police does pull you over, Just cooperate, and things will go smoother that way. If you are not doing anything wrong there is no reason to rebel.
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I lived in Illinois for thirty-eight years and recently relocated. I researched and know a little about Illinois firearms laws.

Suffice it to say, I wouldn't transport a handgun they way you described it. If that were me, I'd be meeting BUBBA up close and personal.

Just my .02 cents.
 
To say that somebody Carries in Illinois, is an invitation to legal trouble, especially in Cook County/Chicago. That being said, a Belly Band or Belly Band Shirt are excellent choices, to use in Wisconsin, if you have a CCL. In Illinois, there has not been one single case, where a FOID Card possessing resident has been Convicted of Violating the Ban on Concealed Carry, not one. I posed the question about a month ago to see if anybody else could find a single case. The Law could be overturned by appeal of a Case, so the States Attorneys do not get convictions on it, The Case is either dismissed or plead down to some other charge. That's how it has survived this long! Be safe, wait for the 7th District Court of Appeals Rulling on the Moore v Madigan Case. To lose your ability to obtain an Illinois CCL in the near future, would be really dumb.
 
HB148,Is the Bill, otherwise called The Family and Personal Protection Act. Il. State Representative Brandon Phelps is the man who is the person who is bringing the Bill to the House for a Vote. The whole thing is on hold until the Moore v Madigan Case is Ruled on by the 7th District Court of Appeals. The Audio of the Hearing is accessible at illinoiscarry.com, forum section. I was at the Hearing and it was great. The three Judge Panel, shredded the Attorney representing the IL. A.G. Lisa Madigan. I highly recommend litening to the Audio as proof that our Judges GET IT! We will get Concealed Carry in Illinois after this Ruling is presented. The Legislature can then tell the Anti-Gunners, that it is the Law of the Land and not fear retaliation at the Voting Box. Look at how we have changed the Laws in Chicago, by Court Action...
 
Dan Cox said:
To say that somebody Carries in Illinois, is an invitation to legal trouble, especially in Cook County/Chicago. That being said, a Belly Band or Belly Band Shirt are excellent choices, to use in Wisconsin, if you have a CCL. In Illinois, there has not been one single case, where a FOID Card possessing resident has been Convicted of Violating the Ban on Concealed Carry, not one. I posed the question about a month ago to see if anybody else could find a single case. The Law could be overturned by appeal of a Case, so the States Attorneys do not get convictions on it, The Case is either dismissed or plead down to some other charge. That's how it has survived this long! Be safe, wait for the 7th District Court of Appeals Rulling on the Moore v Madigan Case. To lose your ability to obtain an Illinois CCL in the near future, would be really dumb.
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Not true ("no one convicted") ... people are convicted of Unlawful Use of a Weapon" (UUW) every day. It used to be a misdemeanor; it's now a felony. It was the change in status that overturned the Gowder v Chicago case. He was convicted of UUW/Firearm when it was a misdemeanor, and was refused a Chicago permit because it was a felony at the time of his application (and the section disallowing anyone ever convicted of UUW/Firearm). The court held that that section was too vague and overturned the ruling that refused him his permit.

If you are convicted of UUW now. It is unlikely that you will be eligible for a CCW anywhere unless you can make a deal to get it expunged sometime down the road.
 
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