'Illegal' Immigrant Gets a Law License? WTF??

[The_Outlaw]

It's no wonder why our country is going to Hell in a handbasket!
~SMFH~ :hang3:

California bar: Illegal immigrant should get law license - U.S. News

 

[Rhino]

Sounds about right for Kalifornia.

 

[araczynski]

I'd be more interested in his ethical convictions than his legal status. There's plenty of 'legal' lawyers out there that are no better than the crooks they try to pardon all the time.

 

[The_Outlaw]

I'd be more interested in his ethical convictions than his legal status. There's plenty of 'legal' lawyers out there that are no better than the crooks they try to pardon all the time.

Apparently the fact that he is living in this country 'ILLEGALLY' is not important??

Obviously his 'ethics' don't seem too concerned about our nations immigration & border Laws.
I guess that he's one of those 'cafeteria lawyers' who 'picks and chooses' which laws he wants to abide by.

Hey here's a thought, how about the rest of us get to 'pick and choose' which Laws we want to abide by?
Example; I would like to drink an ice cold beer in a bar while concealed carrying my personal firearm.
Fair enough??

~SMFH~

 

[eagleeyes]

i think people should live where ever they want to live so long they obey the law of the land and can support themselves or have family that can support them
nobody nor should any government give some rights to some and not another just because they were not born in a certain country or place........that mexican probably had ancestors that were originally natives who got put on reservations or murdered so the white man could take over this land
i just don't agree with boarder laws i think it's draconian and has ulterior motives that serve to further divide the masses rather than unite them

 

[The_Outlaw]

i think people should live where ever they want to live so long they obey the law of the land and can support themselves or have family that can support them
nobody nor should any government give some rights to some and not another just because they were not born in a certain country or place........that mexican probably had ancestors that were originally natives who got put on reservations or murdered so the white man could take over this land
i just don't agree with boarder laws i think it's draconian and has ulterior motives that serve to further divide the masses rather than unite them

Then change the laws of the entire world if you don't agree with them.

Until then, go ahead & try moving into Mexico or China or any other country for that matter 'illegally' and see what happens to you.
They will ship you out or throw your a$$ into prison.

P.s.
My wife is a Latina and our son is half white / half latino, so please save the 'evil white man' lecture.

 

[eagleeyes]

lol i wasn't going to give you an 'evil white man lecture' but still folks should have the right to live where ever they choose
i have thought about moving to belize from time to time and would if i could afford to do so

 

[Rhino]

lol i wasn't going to give you an 'evil white man lecture' but still folks should have the right to live where ever they choose

And when half the world moves here and our system collapses under the burden, then what? You are incredibly naive if you think it's simply a matter of addresses.

 

[eagleeyes]

if they come willing to work and are more qualified for the job why not hire them? of course it's not a matter of just addresses it's goes way beyond that and mostly about corporate greed .........as we speak chinese are being shipped to the usa to build roads it's not the chinese fault it's the corporations willing to hire chinese for lower wages rather than paying americans a better wage ..same with farm workers corporations like monsanto would rather hire illegals to manage the farms that hire americans for higher wages.....and many americans would rather go on welfare than take those jobs for a lower wage so it's dynamics are manipulated by the corporate world which our government caters to over the american citizen............

 

[Rhino]

It isn't about fault either. You are naive. You don't understand the situation at all.

 

[eagleeyes]

what is it you don't think i understand rhino? please tell me your perspective on this i'm willing to hear you out

 

[wolf_fire]

It's no wonder why our country is going to Hell in a handbasket!
~SMFH~ :hang3:

California bar: Illegal immigrant should get law license - U.S. News

The article says he has passed ALL phases including a "moral character review". How moral is it to illegally enter a country, never even try to become a citizen and then try to practice law in the same country you are an illegal in? Am I the only one going WTF???

 

[wolf_fire]

i think people should live where ever they want to live so long they obey the law of the land and can support themselves or have family that can support them
nobody nor should any government give some rights to some and not another just because they were not born in a certain country or place........that mexican probably had ancestors that were originally natives who got put on reservations or murdered so the white man could take over this land
i just don't agree with boarder laws i think it's draconian and has ulterior motives that serve to further divide the masses rather than unite them

Fine, I choose to take over your house. That's where I want to live so I'm going to live there... that's my right according to your statement, I should be able to do that... since I know you have at least one firearm, I'll make sure I come well-prepared to take over the property I have every right to take.

You mention "as long as they live by the rules of the land"... One of the rules is: ... come here LEGALLY if you want to stay.

A good friend of mine married a girl from Paraguay... she is livid by the amount of people that have come to this country and not done so through the correct legal channels. It's not hard to do so, unless you have something to hide.

 

[DougG]

Sorry if I sound out of bounds on this but you sir sound like a nut.

 

[Caribou]

if they come willing to work and are more qualified for the job why not hire them? of course it's not a matter of just addresses it's goes way beyond that and mostly about corporate greed .........as we speak chinese are being shipped to the usa to build roads it's not the chinese fault it's the corporations willing to hire chinese for lower wages rather than paying americans a better wage ..same with farm workers corporations like monsanto would rather hire illegals to manage the farms that hire americans for higher wages.....and many americans would rather go on welfare than take those jobs for a lower wage so it's dynamics are manipulated by the corporate world which our government caters to over the american citizen............

I have no problem with anyone that comes to this country, works, pays their own way, and honors our laws. Not only have they broken the law but they continue this crime for as long as they stay. They, as a group, commit numerous crimes, get free education and medical treatment. They pay few taxes while drawing from the public dole. They drive without insurance and scoot back across the border so as to avoid paying for the damage they cause. They take jobs that citizens could fill and then send much of that money to Mexico. All in all they are a drain on the economy. We have convincing evidence that they assist terrorists to enter our country.

Over fifty years ago my grandparents found out that an employee of theirs was here illegally. They would have nothing to do with an ongoing crime so they had her cross back into Mexico. Then my grandparents hired an attorney and brought her and her five children into the country legally. They sponsored this family of six. This means that my grandparents assumed responsibility for their medical expenses and any other support. This family was never a drain on the community. They worked, paid taxes, and were a benefit to this country. Our entire family was involved in this endeavor. My grandparents called her their daughter and I call her my aunt. If you feel strongly enough that someone deserves to come to this country then take the responsibility for them upon yourself. I made an offer to sponsor a young couple but I would turn in an illegal in a heart beat. Put your money where your mouth is, don't ask society sponsor your charity. We already allow more people in legally than any other country. If you want these additional people here then protect us from the financial risk.

As far as open borders go, get caught in Mexico illegally. After a few years in their jail you will see how welcome criminal visitors are there. I have had the good fortune to travel to several countries. Each wanted to know who I was, why I was there, how long I would stay, and if I could support myself. None of them would allow me to work without special permission. They were all willing to take my money but were very restrictive on those that they allowed to work and take the money out of their country. This is the way it is all over the world, there is no reason for us to be any different.

 

[eagleeyes]

tell that to the native americans !
again i have no problem with anyone coming to the states to live so long they not imposing their laws upon us or harming our citizens which this guy doesn't seem to be doing at all but making a life of his own minding his own business and making something of himself .
wolf fire....i would gladly allow a foreigner into my home so long they respect my house rules and pay their way
but that's just me

 

[Rhino]

what is it you don't think i understand rhino? please tell me your perspective on this i'm willing to hear you out

You want me to teach you basic economics in an internet forum? That's funny. Didn't they teach you economics in school? Societal infrastructure and the load of a populace on that infrastructure? Why do you think all countries, including Mexico, have immigration laws and set limits on the amounts of immigration they allow?

 

[eagleeyes]

evidently the so called economics our government practices is NOT working!
again i say no one should be denied the right to live anywhere they choose to live on this planet so long they not harming others imo it's not about economy as it is about large corporations making a profit i find their immigration laws hypocritical to say the least

 

[Rhino]

It would harm others to drop all immigration restraints. That's the point. That's why the laws exist in the first place. Your heart is in the right place. It would be nice if we could allow anyone to come here that wanted to, but the reality is that we can't afford to do that. Illegal immigration from Mexico and Latin America actually lowers the amount of legal immigrants we are able to accept from other countries, those that are willing to follow the rules to come here.

 

[wolf_fire]

tell that to the native americans !
again i have no problem with anyone coming to the states to live so long they not imposing their laws upon us or harming our citizens which this guy doesn't seem to be doing at all but making a life of his own minding his own business and making something of himself .
wolf fire....i would gladly allow a foreigner into my home so long they respect my house rules and pay their way
but that's just me

The problem with your statement is that this person that the article was written about does NOT abide by our laws and he continues to NOT abide by our laws so long as he stays an illegal immigrant. It is not hard to come to this country LEGALLY... 10's of millions of people have done so already. He has chosen NOT do so and has continued not to do so during the education he has received (I have to assume approximately eight years to become a lawyer, plus however long he was here illegally before college). So the point remains here is that we have a guy that does not abide by our rules, will not abide by our rules, and continues to not abide by our rules and you are fine and dandy to let him stay here and practice law????? WTF?

If a person like this is willing to skirt the rules and laws of our country on the issue of being here legally, then what other laws is this person willing to ignore? And is this the type of person we want practicing law in our country?

While I agree with you that any person that is willing to be a productive member of our society and abide by our laws is welcome into this country, this person has not met that criteria in the least and because of that, I for one would not allow him into my home since he has not respected the rules of our land.