IL the LAST state give people its rights.

BlakeCH

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Hello there does anyone know when we will get our rights? 1-3 years maybe, just guessing myself.
Also if I get a C C permit with another state I, what would be the best state to go with as I have heard all don't carry over? Thanks Blake C-H
 
I dont think, Even with an Non Resident CCW that you can Carry Concealed in your home State.

But either Florida,Utah,or Arizona would be your best. I Currently have my Florida,Arizona & Pennsylvania,& my home State of New York.

Having these permits, best suits my CCW needs.
 
Hi Blake although you are technically right you are wrong. Let me explain I live in New Jersey and although it says may issue that is BS. It is very very hard and some may say impossible for a regular citizen to get a CCW here in New Jersey. So it is really a right denied staet despite what the map says. Retired LE and people who need for business i.e. carry a lot of money etc.. and even at that when you are not working I believe you cannot carry again except retired LE only. I don't ever expect it to change here in NJ hopfully tou ahve better luck in IL. As far as out of state permits Florida or Utah i have a Florida. Good luck and hope for the best. Join as many groups in IL as you can that will fight for your right. Yea none of them will help either you or me for our home states but, will help in neighboring states like PA for me.
 
Hello there does anyone know when we will get our rights? 1-3 years maybe, just guessing myself.
Also if I get a C C permit with another state I, what would be the best state to go with as I have heard all don't carry over? Thanks Blake C-H

May I pipe up? NO STATE can GIVE you any rights. Those rights, such as bearing arms, are already given to us via the Founding Documents. States, or any law, can only place limits on those rights. Vermont, Alaska are two states that you do not have to lick government boots, pay a fee just to have SOME of that right restored.

Every state that "allows" carry of guns (in any fashion) only after you get a governmental permission slip is in violation of the Bill of Rights. There are any number of steps, of "gray scale" between such laws and complete confiscation and 1930's Germany kind-of-a thing. Face it, who are we to decide on which step, which shade of gray, is "OK"? We all have opinions, and as for me I have made it known that any and all gun laws are against our Founding Documents, IMHO, as I do not feel qualified to put additional wording into any of those documents thereby qualifying them for this person, that person, this situation or that...

Crickets chirping.
 
Good luck bro, I have a friend in Alton who has multiple cc licenses from other states. He too is hoping they change soon. Since they are the last state to hold out, maybe that will change.
 
It's totally up to the people of Illinois. Beat on the ears of your state congress and show up on the steps of the capitol building, swamp your Governor. DEMAND your rights and file law suits. Quit whining and ***** footin around and get angry with these people. In numbers there is POWER. JUST DO IT!!!
 
Longslide10 your absolutly right if we keep saying we are defeated and I always hear you'll never get a CCW in New Jersey and that is correct if we keep silent. Self included we need to get up off our a$$e$ and get to work here there are a couple of groups here in New Jersey that are trying to off the ground and it is time to stop crying and get on with it. If you are from NJ let me know and i will post the group url's. I am sure IL have the same thing you just need to get with fellow gun owners out there that is how I found out about the ones in NJ.
 
BlakeCH -- warm welcome from Missouri where across the river you will find FREEDOM all caps. We have a good castle doctrine here and CCW doesn't just mean "gun". MOVE!!
 
Illinois is the way that it is because that's the way that Illinoisians want it to be. They follow the lead of Chicago and Chicago doesn't want self-defense. It took a Supreme Court decision just for Chicagoans to be able to HAVE handguns... IN THEIR HOMES.

Illinois is all about corruption and "clout". I was born in Chicago and lived their for 20+ years.

If Illinois EVER gets shall issue CCW, it will be via court decision and no other way.
 
You have to respect Illinois for their decision and publishing of their stance on CCW. (Keep reading before you flame me).

Illinois says no guns, and they mean no guns. If you want to challenge them, go ahead. The cowards in the group are New Jersey, New York City, Maryland, California and the forgotten State of Rhode Island because all say that they will issue permits but Do Not. I am not sure what is more difficult to find, A NJ carry, a NYC carry or the right 6 numbers for the lottery. My guess is the lottery is easiest. (I left MA out intentionally as it isn't that difficult to get a permit even though they still trample on our rights on a regular basis)

Maryland and NJ have an informal policy (practiced 100% of the time but not written because of it's illegality) of issuing permits only to those who need to carry a gun in order to make a living. NYC says they are the same, but other than armored car licenses, which require the handguns to be stored on-site at the headquarters, there are no permits for those not politically connected.

Rhode Island is just a disaster. The local PD and AG both issue permits, but there are so many requirements that can't be met, they may as well require you to have a NJ or NYC carry license first.

California? They should break into two states and the southern half should secede. San Fran south can be its own country. It already is anyway.

It's sad that when you piece together the carry map, the Boston to Washington DC corridor, for the most part, is a gun free zone. Couldn't think of an area i would want a gun more in.

Illinois may come around after a few more lawsuits and another Chicago fire (figurative not literal this time). There are a lot of rural areas in Illinois that just need to become vocal. There is little hope for the NorthEast, though. Good for Wisconsin coming to their senses. I hope their sensibility is contagious.
 
Answering your question...

As a fellow Illinois resident, I sympathize with you. Really people move to another state??? Sounds easy but impossible with my work,family, and farm. Anyways, I have a Utah and Florida permits. That allows pretty much maximum ccw carry for us folks from ILLINOISe! You pick up 4 extra states together by having the combo and one is WI. Other states like NV, you need their permit. I'm not sure the direct count but it is about 35 states. Ironically when I travel I won't go to any state that doesn't allow ccw or open carry. Hey ...check out Frontsight in NV excellent ccw. Also Gander mountain sponsors many UT and FL classes throughout the state.
 
Join and fight!

You can also join and fight the cause with Illinois State Rifle Association and Icarry.org. On the I carry website it describes the loophole we have with 6 sec ccw. That is carry pouch with loaded mags in separate pocket. Takes about 6 sec to ready for fire. Hopefully the BG walks very very very slowly.
 

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