If you encounter a deadly situation

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Read a post on another forum that got me thinking about this.

If you were to encounter a deadly situation, would your husband, wife, child or other companion in a panic plead for you to draw your weapon or are they disciplined enough to not panic and let you assess and formulate a plan to protect yourself and them?

You can see where this could lead, a clerk being held and gunpoint and you as bystanders are not necessarily targets until the bad guy(s) know you're a threat.



I swear my wife would scream in a panic and then say 'oops'. Therefore, as a rule, I try to not let her know when I'm carrying or that the gun is even out of its case- hard to do in a marriage but hey, 18 years ago this question didn't cross my mind.

What say you?
 
My wife knows that I don't carry to be a hero or vigilante so I'm not worried about that type of scenario. I would never try to take out a BG that is not a direct threat while they are with me.
 
Me engaging a BG in defense of a third person is completely contingent on the safety of my family first. If the BG stands between me and my family's exit, then a contingency will have to be developed per the situation. But my wife knows I carry and that I would engage a threat within the confines of what the law allows whether in self defense of me and my family or a 3rd person.
 
Engaging isn't the question. The question pertains to having someone who knows that you are carrying, in fear or in panic say, scream, or even whisper for you to 'shoot him', or 'get your gun' or say anything to expose the fact that you are carrying a concealed weapon.

Is your husband/wife/kid aware and grounded enough to not scream for you to help in a situation where you are a bystander and not directly in harms way. What are you going to do if a companion screams "Get your gun"? The BG is alerted and you've become a possible target. Have you really thought it out? Will someone panic and put you at greater risk or cause you to engage?
 
FNWylde said:
Engaging isn't the question. The question pertains to having someone who knows that you are carrying, in fear or in panic say, scream, or even whisper for you to 'shoot him', or 'get your gun' or say anything to expose the fact that you are carrying a concealed weapon.

Is your husband/wife/kid aware and grounded enough to not scream for you to help in a situation where you are a bystander and not directly in harms way. What are you going to do if a companion screams "Get your gun"? The BG is alerted and you've become a possible target. Have you really thought it out? Will someone panic and put you at greater risk or cause you to engage?
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Aha. Well wife is the only one that knows, I trust that she wouldn't 'call me out' in a situation.
 
My wife would stealthily move to a location as far as reasonable from me. She would seek cover in the safest possible location. From behind cover she screams to distract the bad guy, giving me the opportunity to draw and fire at the distracted bad guy. We practice this scenario several times per month in our back yard including mock ups of likely locations such as convenience stores, school classrooms and banks.
 
Wife and son carries and knows better than to scream or say anything, this has come up in the past and was not an issue.
 
FNWylde said:
Read a post on another forum that got me thinking about this.

If you were to encounter a deadly situation, would your husband, wife, child or other companion in a panic plead for you to draw your weapon or are they disciplined enough to not panic and let you assess and formulate a plan to protect yourself and them?

You can see where this could lead, a clerk being held and gunpoint and you as bystanders are not necessarily targets until the bad guy(s) know you're a threat.



I swear my wife would scream in a panic and then say 'oops'. Therefore, as a rule, I try to not let her know when I'm carrying or that the gun is even out of its case- hard to do in a marriage but hey, 18 years ago this question didn't cross my mind.

What say you?
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That wouldn't work with my wife. She knows I carry all the time.


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FNWylde said:
Therefore, as a rule, I try to not let her know when I'm carrying or that the gun is even out of its case- hard to do in a marriage but hey, 18 years ago this question didn't cross my mind.

What say you?
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I get some really good laughs from the "element of surprise" followers sometimes.
 
Please don't take this the wrong way. But, isn't the real question is-

"Why doesn't your wife feel secure enough around you that she won't panic?"​

My wife has always felt completely SAFE when she is close to me. The only time she even came close to panicking was one day while we were out walking she saw the guy that raped her out on the streets. (The only thing she did though was grab my arm & move behind me.)

Both, my wife & kids feel 100% safe when I am with them because they know I carry. They also know I can & will protect them with my life.

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Back to your situation-
I strongly suggest you enroll your wife & kids into some type of self defense classes. Have them take some type of martial arts together if possible. Just doing this one thing will go a long way to building self confidence & limiting the tendency to "panic".

If your wife will agree to taking a firearms class, I would also encourage you to help her find a good instructor. If your wife & kids don't fully believe you are capable to protect them, I also suggest you may want to get some training as well.

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My wife, we have no kids, knows enough to take immediate cover and or fade out of the picture if possible. NO panic just extremely focused thought.

I do believe we will start training as NavyLCDR does, it really makes sense. We shoot different scenarios but have not thought about one of us being the distractor IF needed. (That's why I love this site, always getting better ideas)
 
NavyLCDR said:
My wife would stealthily move to a location as far as reasonable from me. She would seek cover in the safest possible location. From behind cover she screams to distract the bad guy, giving me the opportunity to draw and fire at the distracted bad guy. We practice this scenario several times per month in our back yard including mock ups of likely locations such as convenience stores, school classrooms and banks.
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We do something similar; except I'm usually the one that distracts so my wife can take the shot. (She's a better shot.)

Besides, I think a BG is more likely to expect a man to defend themselves & their family. So, I believe it is easier to get & keep his attention on me. Since, I am more likely be seen as the primary threat to him.

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FNWylde said:
The question pertains to having someone who knows that you are carrying, in fear or in panic say, scream, or even whisper for you to 'shoot him', or 'get your gun' or say anything to expose the fact that you are carrying a concealed weapon.
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My wife and I had this conversation long ago, she was not to say "you have a gun, do something" or God forbid, grab my strong arm if she was standing beside me. She has since advanced to where she now carries herself.
 
IF it is my fight...big IF...my wife carries - knows in most instances that I am our primary and that she is to seek cover by, if possible, moving perpendicular to the presumed line of fire and prepare to defend herself. If not my fight, she knows we both move with no need for shouting.
 
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