If I hear the Constitution is a living document one more time...


festus

God Bless Our Troops!!!
I hate that phrase. The Constitution is not a "living" document that changes to suit the times or whims of interpretation. It is the beating heart of our law and the very soul of our nation. It contains all the rules we need to successfully construct and run the government of our great Republic. It does not mention banking, It does not mention fiscal irresponsibility or government debt. It does give a vary concise set of procedures for what, when and where decisions are made and who makes them.

SO STOP SHREDDING IT!
 

Agreed, Festus.

It is the life blood of our society. Blood that is currently being intentionally drained by those who have other plans for the resultant corpse of our nation. Imagining the Frankenstein-like terror that we be revived gives me night terrors.
 

CathyInBlue

Tool Maker
I also hate the quote, "The Constitution is not a suicide pact." No. It's a bill of goods. These are the privileges we the people give up to purchase the protections we require for the rights we retain. These are the authorities we the people give to you the government in exchange for your intelligent and sparing use there of for our well being.

Everytime the government unconstitutionally expands its scope by depth or breadth, it is as if the merchant has come back to his customer saying, "Those goods and services you've already purchased and paid for, I'll need to take some of those back and at the same time charge you more for the goods and services I allow you to retain."
 
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wolfhunter

Guest
Hey, Festus, ever notice that the same folks that call the Constitution a living document are trying to kill it?
 

Rick O'Shay

New member
I view the Constitution as a historical document about as relevant today as the Magna Carta. It was destroyed long ago IMO.
:help:
 

HK4U

New member
I view the Constitution as a historical document about as relevant today as the Magna Carta. It was destroyed long ago IMO.
:help:


It is still alive but hanging on by a thread. The Marxist, one world government/NWO gang are trying their best to destroy it.
 

MNSteve

Retired, NRA Life member
i hate that phrase. The constitution is not a "living" document that changes to suit the times or whims of interpretation. It is the beating heart of our law and the very soul of our nation. It contains all the rules we need to successfully construct and run the government of our great republic. It does not mention banking, it does not mention fiscal irresponsibility or government debt. It does give a vary concise set of procedures for what, when and where decisions are made and who makes them.

So stop shredding it!

Hear! Hear!
 

CathyInBlue

Tool Maker
The Constitution's been shredded since almost before it began. The Whiskey Rebellion and Fries' Rebellion were both in response to unconstitutional direct taxes levied on the people by the Federal government.
 

NDS

New member
I suggest we take the Constitution off the shelf, blow the dust from it, and center our government around it again.



Soon!


I view the Constitution as a historical document about as relevant today as the Magna Carta. It was destroyed long ago IMO.
:help:
 
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wolfhunter

Guest
The Constitution's been shredded since almost before it began. The Whiskey Rebellion and Fries' Rebellion were both in response to unconstitutional direct taxes levied on the people by the Federal government.

One of the earliest tears occurred when George Washington selected a panel of Supreme Court judges who were each in favor of greater Federal authority as opposed to allowing the States to retain their authority.
 

Ironhorse

New member
I don't want to start a flame war here, but: If we can agree that the Constitution has already been messed up before our time, and thus out of our control - Shouldn't we be fighting to see that it isn't messed up any further during our time, and thus WITHIN our control? :biggrin:
 

Piece Corps

New member
Just remember the part that the left-wing socialists are really trying to kill - our Declaration of Independence - and what it says:

That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends,
it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government,
laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form,
as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

Looks like it may be time to take these words to heart.
 

Wolfling68

New member
Just remember the part that the left-wing socialists are really trying to kill - our Declaration of Independence - and what it says:



Looks like it may be time to take these words to heart.

It also says " Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes"

Everything that has been done can be undone withing the frame of law. We just have to work on it. The enemies of the Constitution, and freedom in general, work continually to erode our rights (what is a Right anyway) and freedoms, while we work at our jobs and raising our families. We need to do more. We need to suck it up, understand the game, and start playing to win.
The players in the game do not care about right and wrong (for the most part), just what helps them win. We need new strategies and tactics, because the ones we are using do not work.
We need bright young people who understand how to play the media to be our spokemen.
We need soulless bastards who are loyal to US to represent us in the Courts and Congress, or those who are willing to sacrifice their souls to do what needs to be done. I do not think you can have a Soul and go far as an elected official, and I don't think Reagan would stand a chance today :-(
We need our own BIG LIE that the sheep can understand and get behind, even if the LIE is the truth.

We need to come together and market ourselves until we can gain enough control and momentum to where we can make effective change.

Otherwise we are doomed to be murdering our children, either in a civil war, or through oppression. I do not want to see either happen.
 

Rick O'Shay

New member
It also says " Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes"

Everything that has been done can be undone withing the frame of law. We just have to work on it. The enemies of the Constitution, and freedom in general, work continually to erode our rights (what is a Right anyway) and freedoms, while we work at our jobs and raising our families. We need to do more. We need to suck it up, understand the game, and start playing to win.
The players in the game do not care about right and wrong (for the most part), just what helps them win. We need new strategies and tactics, because the ones we are using do not work.
We need bright young people who understand how to play the media to be our spokemen.
We need soulless bastards who are loyal to US to represent us in the Courts and Congress, or those who are willing to sacrifice their souls to do what needs to be done. I do not think you can have a Soul and go far as an elected official, and I don't think Reagan would stand a chance today :-(
We need our own BIG LIE that the sheep can understand and get behind, even if the LIE is the truth.

We need to come together and market ourselves until we can gain enough control and momentum to where we can make effective change.

Otherwise we are doomed to be murdering our children, either in a civil war, or through oppression. I do not want to see either happen.

Amen.
 

ricbak

New member
First, and maybe slightly of topic, this thread has been thought provoking and thanks to all. My B-I-L and I have been talking about the "Framers" for about a week and we went back to Mr Madison and the Federalist Papers. (For a start ~ Link Removed )
The objects of the Union among the States, as described in article third, are "their common defense, security of their liberties, and mutual and general welfare.
I have not read these works since school. It is amazing how smart these guys were.. But If our golf game goes away, we go back to the basics. Back to the fundimentals that made our game good. The same thing holds true here, go back to the fundimentals that made us great...

 

Rick O'Shay

New member
First, and maybe slightly of topic, this thread has been thought provoking and thanks to all. My B-I-L and I have been talking about the "Framers" for about a week and we went back to Mr Madison and the Federalist Papers. (For a start ~ Link Removed )

I have not read these works since school. It is amazing how smart these guys were.. But If our golf game goes away, we go back to the basics. Back to the fundimentals that made our game good. The same thing holds true here, go back to the fundimentals that made us great...



Unless you want to end up on a DHS list you had better not talk about seditious right wing extremist propaganda, like the Federalist Papers, in public.
:nono:
 
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wolfhunter

Guest
Unless you want to end up on a DHS list you had better not talk about seditious right wing extremist propaganda, like the Federalist Papers, in public.
:nono:

Federalist Papers, Common Sense, Jefferson's letters. These are all great reading material, but those with political power don't want you to read them.
 

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