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bobyoung10

bobyoung10

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My dad just had an accident with a .380 which resaulted in him loseing a finger. He was cleaning the firearm and cycled a couple rounds through to make sure the rounds wouldnt bind up. After he got home from the ER both my mother and I laid down some rules. One being that hes not allowed to do anything to or with any firearm in the house for a month. Is that resonable or a little over kill? What do you think?
 
bobyoung10 said:
My dad just had an accident with a .380 which resaulted in him loseing a finger. He was cleaning the firearm and cycled a couple rounds through to make sure the rounds wouldnt bind up. After he got home from the ER both my mother and I laid down some rules. One being that hes not allowed to do anything to or with any firearm in the house for a month. Is that resonable or a little over kill? What do you think?
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I don't see how a "timeout" helps anyone. If someone doesn't know the basic rules, putting them in a timeout session won't help them learn.

How about a NRA class or equivalent that goes over the 4 rules?

I'm fairly certain that he's learned his lesson, and there's no need to add insult to injury here. Get him a gift certificate to a class, take him out for a beer, and laugh about it. Enjoy the time you have with him and be grateful no one was seriously hurt or killed.
 
What good is grounding an adult, did you send him to bed without dessert too? What is it going to accomplish with him not being to do anything with his guns, but make him mad for being treated like a child. How about sending him to school and retrain him on better gun handling techniques.
 
Very dangerous!!!!!

WOW.....Either you know and are aware of Gun Safety at all times or "Not" I guess???? Not to be rude, but is your Father compitent????? If NOT, he has no business using a Gun. People make mistakes, but with a Gun strict training and rules need ALWAYS be followed at all times. I mean, even at Gun stores where Gums are NEVER loaded, they always open the slide to show you the Chamber is clear before handing it to you!!!!!

The same care needs to be taken upon handling and cleaning your own Gun as well. To me personally, if you need to question if he needs a "Time Out" from the Gun.........He has no business whatsoever handling/carrying a Gun at all. That is how people get killed!!!!!!!! What if he had been pointing the Gun at his Face, Chest, Child, Dog........And so on!!!!!

Without knowing the Man it is hard to say.....Just give an opinion!!! My "OPINION" he needs to take a Hunter/Gun safety course to say the least. I have my CCW, but I also had my first Gun at 10, Hunter Safety at 12, years of training, CCW course in full as well as training with my Friend who is a SWAT LT. He has taken me through the SWAT Teams Course several times, showed me a ton of very usefull tips, and corrected me if I was doing something wrong!!!!

Spend $75-100+ to get him training if needed, if your father is "OLD", feeble, slow, on the verge of Alzheimers.........Take that Gun away 100% for good!!!!! I don't know if that's the case, but if any of what I said strikes home....Do yourself, your Dad, and the Public a Favor and take heed to the suggestions you asked for.

This is obviously more serious than (Should I take my Kids Video Games away)....... :) Best of luck!!!!!!
 
Well, I see you made it to the right place. It looks like you've already gotten some good advice. As was said, a simple month off is not the answer, although I think he is going to need some time to heal. I would second the notion of additional training being mandatory at this point IF you think he is generally competent. I know it's a difficult thing to consider but the risks are just too great to not do so. Firearms are unforgiving of mistakes. I too suspect that the lesson has hit home. Has he had any training at all? Perhaps it has been a long time ago or only with long arms. Has he done a self-assessment to determine exactly what he did wrong? He needs to understand and believe that he did do something wrong. It sounds like a simple finger on the trigger when it shouldn't be kinda thing, as opposed to a defective pistol, but I wasn't there so I don't know.

More info about how this happened could be a help to others here, especially those who are new to firearms-there are a lot of newbies out there these days.

I'm sorry this happened to him but thank God it isn't worse. Good luck and keep us posted.
 
Captain K-man said:
What good is grounding an adult, did you send him to bed without dessert too? What is it going to accomplish with him not being to do anything with his guns, but make him mad for being treated like a child. How about sending him to school and retrain him on better gun handling techniques.
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Exactly my thoughts. What kind of household is this? Grounding him? With all due respects to the father, blowing your finger off does not exactly exhibit any kind of appreciation of how to handle a firearm. I am surprised you have to ask a public forum for advice on this nonsense.
 
Just my two cents here but if there is ANY question of his mental competency as stated earlier with alzheimers , dementia or anything else the gun has to go forever but if not you're just treating a grown man like a child...not trying to be mean but sometimes accidents DO happen............
 
It has been said here before, but....

Don't belittle him, cherish the fact that it was just a finger and he has nine more. It could have easily went into a major artery in his leg or arm and he could have bled to death.... but he didn't.

Was this a simple accident or does he suffer from alzheimers or anything else? If so, then it probably is time to remove firearms from his care and control. If not, then....

Support him, treat him like a victim of an accident and tell him that you care so much about him that you want to get educated with him by taking an NRA safety course just to refresh the knowledge you both have so you can all stay safe.

Forget the hunter safety course, they teach you how to identify your prey... take a course you find here: NRAInstructors.org - Portal for NRA certified Instructors, NRA Education and Training . Read about the different courses first, then find one near you and plan to take it with him once he is well enough.
 
This is an accident that never should have happened. Your father had to break all three NRA Gun Safety Rules which are:

ALWAYS keep your gun pointed in a safe direction.
ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
ALWAYS keep the gun unloaded until ready to use.

All three of these rules have to be broken in order for a gun to fire. As a rule of thumb, you should never have ammo around when you are cleaning you gun.

A time out or taking away his right to do anything with a firearm is the house is childish and won't solve anything. To me, I laughed when I saw that posted. You father should be made to take an NRA sponsored pistol course before being allowed to touch any firearm period. Not just in the house. The bullet could have gone through a wall and killed someone in your home. Not to mention someone passing by outside. This is the kind of accident we don't need, especially now with the liberals calling for more gun control laws.
 
Bob,

I agree with Locosway and some of the others. The TWO main causes of firearms incidents are IGNORANCE and CARELESSNESS...I'll be willing to bet you that he will not forget again that when cleaning a firearm ALL of the ammo should be removed by clearing the firearm, placed in another room or area, then return to clean the firearm.
If you would like to check the functioning of the handgun, go to an approved range and become friends with your firearm by shooting it as it functions.
For ALL self defense ammo that you purchase, I recommend that you actually fire it in your handgun as explained above before you decide that is the correct ammo for you and your handgun.
 
bobyoung10 said:
My dad just had an accident with a .380 which resaulted in him loseing a finger. He was cleaning the firearm and cycled a couple rounds through to make sure the rounds wouldnt bind up. After he got home from the ER both my mother and I laid down some rules. One being that hes not allowed to do anything to or with any firearm in the house for a month. Is that resonable or a little over kill? What do you think?
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If shooting his own finger off didn't teach him anything about basic firearm safety, then nothing will.

Troll much??
 
accidents happen even from the most experienced sorry about your dad
we don't make drivers of cars redo drivers ed for being in an accident but i'm sure they learn valuable lesson from their accident or should anyways
were they able to save his finger?
when i practice at the range i consciously watch what my left hand is doing while the right shooting as not to get it in the way of fire pretending to ward off a bad guy
 
Consider this... there are no accidents, only negligence. This time it was his finger. Next time possibly another person. Nothing should ever cross the muzzle.

A more appropriate family sentence might be to make him take the safety class "NRA Basic Pistol" before he came resume.
 
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