I need need to inform my employer of my permit to carry

Going back to Holio4's original question, he was unsure what he could or couldn't do so he threw it out for discussion. He seems to feel that he has reason to want to carry on the job. That being the case, go to his employer and ask for permission and give him all the pertinent reasons to back up his request. If the employer says no, that is the end of the problem. If you continue to carry, you are probably going to lose your job, written policy or not. If you give valid reasons and give the employer the opportunity to say yes, you are ahead of the game and still gainfully employed. There are a lot of "guard house lawyers" on here who have that "in your face attitude" who will freely advise you to do things that they themselves wouldn't do. I always took my pistol to work and left it in my car and never felt the need to keep it on my person. Just be careful what advice you take when your job could be at stake. As for the supervisor's role, obviously some people haven't the slightest idea what his job responsibilities are and the allegiance he owes to his employer. Apparently he does since he is the supervisor.:biggrin:
 
mhankins said:
How did the superviser know you were carrying?
To me,having a concealed weapon means to keep it concealed.
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Lavon said:
Speaking of which...not trying to sound negative/cynical just a realist...Just how many co-workers, of your handful of trust-worthy co-workers, do you think know? Never assume even your best buddy will keep a secret. It's Concealed Carry for a reason...only the carrier should know.
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mhankins... in short, he found out because I was printing, he asked, and i'm too damn honest.... ultimately my mistake.
Lavon... I know and trust 4 of 15 employees and word hasn't made it to the higher ups for 2 years, but I am learning that it's best to keep it completely on the DL.
And to both..... Minnesota has a permit to carry, the law doesn't require you to conceal, but I don't open carry except on certain private property.
 
Oldgrunt said:
Going back to Holio4's original question, he was unsure what he could or couldn't do so he threw it out for discussion. He seems to feel that he has reason to want to carry on the job. That being the case, go to his employer and ask for permission and give him all the pertinent reasons to back up his request.
As for the supervisor's role, obviously some people haven't the slightest idea what his job responsibilities are and the allegiance he owes to his employer. Apparently he does since he is the supervisor.:biggrin:
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Yes, that was my reason for posting oldgrunt.
We are a small company with 4 people in the office, me in the warehouse/field, and about 15 union bricklayers/tenders/laborers in the field.
The f'd up part of it all is that the "supervisor" was hired 3 weeks ago, just above me, to support me in the warehouse. He just has a few more skills and experience than I do. Therefor he is who I report to now instead of the vice pres. of the Co.

Last season we had about 8-10 quadplexes we were doing various work on throughout the summer. I would end up delivering materials/equipment to most of these sites a couple to sometimes 5 times a week. Every one of these sites were in the WORST part of North Minneapolis. Most of these buildings were only half occupied by tennants.

One morning, one of our bricklayers showed up on site for his 3rd day there at 6 AM. The police and detectives were still there investigating a shooting that happened in the building earlier that morning. Honestly it didn't surprize me when I heard about it knowing the "hood" it was in. So, if and when I speak with the owner about carrying on the job, that is one excellent point to bring up.
 
Holio4 said:
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Last season we had about 8-10 quadplexes we were doing various work on throughout the summer. I would end up delivering materials/equipment to most of these sites a couple to sometimes 5 times a week. Every one of these sites were in the WORST part of North Minneapolis. Most of these buildings were only half occupied by tennants.

One morning, one of our bricklayers showed up on site for his 3rd day there at 6 AM. The police and detectives were still there investigating a shooting that happened in the building earlier that morning. Honestly it didn't surprize me when I heard about it knowing the "hood" it was in. So, if and when I speak with the owner about carrying on the job, that is one excellent point to bring up.
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Hmmm....tricky situation...I just want to wish you luck. Maybe you have nothing really to worry about. You know what to do so do it. You are in my prayers -- maybe you need it, hopefully you won't.
Izzie
 
Holio4: Given the situation as you stated it, you may indeed have a valid reason for carrying a weapon and, if I were your employer, I would probably go along with it. It is your decision to make and I wish you well. Given those same circumstances, I would want to carry also.:biggrin:
 
Why doesn't the supervisor take it up with the owner or senior management? Sounds like you are being thrown under the bus.
 
Treo said:
If one person knows you carry everyone knows you carry. So, you kinda screwed the pooch on that one. I don't discuss concealed carry at work and if some one asks me I recite the company policy verbatim from the handbook and change the subject.
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Agreed. You can't keep a secret between three people in a room. If one person knows then everyone knows. If you decide to continue to carry against company policy you may risk your job. And the economy isn't very good. The employer can easily post a sign and then it's company policy. Can't avise you on what to do other than keep quiet about guns in the workplace, PERIOD. You must realize that some people are afraid of guns for no reason. Personally? I'd rather keep the job so I'd lock her in the car.

Please don't feed the Brady bunch.
 
There's an old saying and it may apply here; "you may be carrying water in a leaky bucket."
Best I might hope for is a gun vault in the car, at least it's in the parking lot and not at home.
 
I work at a pawn shop, my ccw was what helped me get the job, lol. the guns to employee ratio in that place is mind boggling.
 
As stated, your boss, confidants, the secretary and receptionist all already know, so should you decide to carry you will have you concealing skills tested. At best, your inquiry is a Insurance Liability issue while your are on the property & working; should you not carry while physically working, how do you safely secure your weapon? What if it's stolen while 'secured'? Who covers replacement costs? Any responsibility for any further malfeasancant actions by the thief? You can see where this is headed. This is just an unfortunate reality you and your employer face.
 
The company doesn't have a weapons policy because the boss doesn't think they need one. Usually that is a liability-neutral situation for the company, DEPENDING on state law. Looks like your supervisor doesn't have the guts to butt heads with the boss directly, but would like to help you throw yourself under the bus to get a (no) weapons policy.

You know your boss far better than does either your supervisor or myself. You MIGHT have a chance with a modification to the following approach:

"Hey Boss, I know our equipment is insured just in case something happens to it and some job sites are in areas that keep Cops and Ambulances busy. Our people are our most valuable and most irreplacable resource. Some here have even expressed concern about vulnerability to violent crime while on the job. Don't you see that as a good reason to continue the company policy of not prohibiting employees who may legally do so from carrying a weapon while on the job to protect themselves against deadly attack?"

If your boss asks who might be legally able to carry a weapon you might say that the State of MN considers that to be private information, but you understand that the requirments include passing a criminal background check, etc.

Good Luck, whatever you decide to do.

Gary
 
My employees are welcome to carry in and out of the building but I don't allow them walk around all day packing their guns. It might upset our clients.
 
agrippakc said:
I work at a pawn shop, my ccw was what helped me get the job, lol. the guns to employee ratio in that place is mind boggling.
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Same applied at the gun shops the other day. :biggrin: 4 cops, 2 employees, 6 customers at the same time. Want to place a bet on how many of the 12 had loaded guns?
 
Informing employer

I live in riverside county California. The sherriff requires that you inform your employer and supplies a form they have to sign. My employer refused to sign the paper and has a no carry policy. I assumed i had no chance at getting a permit in this county as they are not handed out on a routine basis. I apealed to the folks in charge at the CCW unit and explained my situation that my employer would not sign or acknoledge my CCW persuit. After 9 months i got my permit for Kalifornia. I couldn't believe it.

Les
 
Informing employer, in re CA

Les,

Congratulations on your CCW, also THANK YOU for leading the fight from the front! Hopefully your win will inspire others to keep on going with the permitting process. That law in particular is asinine since the employer should not be involved in the permitting process. At least you were allowed to counter argue (defend) on your behalf.

Tom
 
I need to inform my employer of my permit to carry

Tom,
Thanks for the support. Just a note on this subject. I was not offered the oppritunity to make my argumment with the sherriff's office i had to make it happen by insisting that i be heard. The deputy told me that this had never happened before and there wasn't anything that could be done. I voiced my opinion in writing and on the phone to anybody that would listen abd several that didn't. As with anything just do not except no as the end all answer. Make yourself a pain in the butt in a polite way and let them know you won't go away. With the budget crisis everywhere and criminals being released from jail that need to be locked up no politician want's to be spot lighted as easy going on crime or being against the honest voter that has no problem politely spreading the word one way or the other.
 
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