i in 5 boys have ADHD?


Mike C

New member
Headline – “ADHD on the rise: 1 in 5 high school-age boys diagnosed with hyperactivity”, folks that’s 20%. You can Read the whole article here: ADHD on the rise: 1 in 5 high school-age boys diagnosed with hyperactivity | Fox News

Here is what I think is going on with this bogus story. Since the Gun Grabbers are attempting to stop us all from having firearms, but continue to run in to resistance at every turn, it is unlikely they will get much done. Now think about this. All indications point to mental illness being a large contributor to many of the mass shootings in our Nation. Many people including the NRA and others are saying any new gun laws need to address the mental illness issue. Well guess what, I think the government is coming up with the bogus “1 in 5 boys has ADD” as an avenue to work to get the supposed disorder classified as a mental illness thus effectively eliminating anyone who has been diagnosed with the disorder from every being able to legally own a firearm, which based on the governments statistics would stop at least 20% of the male population in this country from ever being able to own a firearm!

Some Doctors already are hollering foul but it might not be enough. We all had better watch this one real close before it gains much ground.

Mike Crabtree
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The_Outlaw

~The Dude Abides~
Headline – “ADHD on the rise: 1 in 5 high school-age boys diagnosed with hyperactivity”, folks that’s 20%. You can Read the whole article here: ADHD on the rise: 1 in 5 high school-age boys diagnosed with hyperactivity | Fox News

Here is what I think is going on with this bogus story. Since the Gun Grabbers are attempting to stop us all from having firearms, but continue to run in to resistance at every turn, it is unlikely they will get much done. Now think about this. All indications point to mental illness being a large contributor to many of the mass shootings in our Nation. Many people including the NRA and others are saying any new gun laws need to address the mental illness issue. Well guess what, I think the government is coming up with the bogus “1 in 5 boys has ADD” as an avenue to work to get the supposed disorder classified as a mental illness thus effectively eliminating anyone who has been diagnosed with the disorder from every being able to legally own a firearm, which based on the governments statistics would stop at least 20% of the male population in this country from ever being able to own a firearm!

Some Doctors already are hollering foul but it might not be enough. We all had better watch this one real close before it gains much ground.

Mike Crabtree
Member USA Carry

I wouldn't put anything past those libtarded fascist dumbocrappers....
They would probably sell out their own mothers to remain in power imvho.
 

filmtex

New member
Sorry. Not buying the whole ADHD thing at all. I believe that it has all been made up to get our boys to sit still and act like girls in the feminine schools they're forced to attend. My son, like all boys, was fidgety as all get out when he was young. Once he figured out that I was NOT going to stand for it, and once he figured out what I was doing when I started to warm my hand up on my jeans, he stopped. EVERY TIME. It's discipline that's lacking. NOT drugs. THe whole thing is a sham. </rant>
 

Greggatshack

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Perhaps we could look at improving our diet to get rid of some of the increase in ADHD

From Tom Naughton's Fat Head - good movie, I recommend it.

We've been scared away from perfectly healthy animal fats that have kept us healthy for millions of years.
We've scared man away from saturated fats (which help to produce testosterone) and now we take viagra.
We've scared parents into giving kids skimmed milk while their brains are growing and now we have kids that can't concentrate and take drugs for ADHD
The experts convinced us to switch to highly processed and completely unnatural fats that cause inflammation, weaken our cells and make us sick
Rise in heart disease and obesity clearly about one thing, carbohydrates.
Grains only naturally consumed by one animal group and that is birds
 

Lowjiber

New member
Okay. It's time to get off this ADD train and say what's really the issue with high school boys. High school boys have ONE thing on their mind all the time. Since there are ladies here, I won't say the common word...suffice to say it's the opposite sex.

The "fact" that only one in five high school boys has the affliction is a definite lower number than when I was in high school.

BTW: They couldn't name my school Lincoln High School because he wasn't even born yet.:wink:
 

titaniumman

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The symptoms that are used to describe ADHD are a joke....ANY second grade boy could fit the description, lack of attention, not listening, careless mistakes, disorganized work habbits, forgets lunch, not following the rules, fidgeting,running or climbing excessively, difficulty being quiet or playing quietly, always on the go...Sounds like every kid I know. I am sorry but not every kid is going to sit quietly and concentrate and be a model student. Teachers need to suck it up and realize that their job requires effort and little johnny will calm down as he matures, just like my kids did.
 

jtg452

Member
The problem is that far too many parents and most teachers don't want to be bothered with actually raising or training kids on how to act in public.

It's far easier to declare that a kid without 'proper home training' (as we refer to it down South) has a "condition" and just medicate them into little quiet zombies than it is to actually raise them.
 

tricolordad

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Ahhhh making up diseases to justify your lack of parenting. Good one libtards.

Take a guess at why my kids don't do stupid **** like that...
 

Koolbota

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I edited out links but posted some the info below-



Read until your eyes bleed.

If you have kids, they are completely screwed, and you are too.

We home school.
 

Koolbota

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  • RE: URGENT URGENT US Dept of Ed Draft Documen


karen.brac​[email protected]​com ([email protected]
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11:32 AM
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OK….when they look at you like you have a tin foil hat on your head……take some of this information with you. It is 126 pages. I have not read through the entire document (YET) but what I have read is enough to blow off the top of your head. I have highlighted some stuff. KIPP (Charter Schools) has a CHARACTER REPORT CARD on Page 39. So for now start on page 39 and work your way through to page 45. Remember FERPA laws were changed last year and I am sure not one parent is aware that permission to share information about our children no longer requires parental consent. Obama just slipped all these new changes in and I don't believe any parents were ever asked their opinions about these changes. And where was our Republican Congress when this happened???

AGENDA 21 is: The complete control and inventory of every human activity. After your friends read some of this information ask them if they still believe A21 is not real. Chapter 36 of A21 document is devoted to education.

Our government forgets there are still people alive that can think and see through their garbage.

Print this document and get a highlighter………..then start visiting your neighbors, school boards, elected officials and start screaming. GET COMMON CORE AND THE GOVERNMENT out of our class rooms. I think it is time to start a MASS movement for Home Schooling. I know Home Schooling will not be spared. This should be a movement to bring education back to the local level and DESTROY the Federal Department of Education. If our kids are not in school it will create an uprising at all levels. We should not settle for shutting down Common Core because they will masquerade it….they are already doing this in VA. VA supposedly never signed on to Common Core but GUESS WHAT……..they ARE implementing Common Core and disguising it from the citizens in VA….of course they aren't doing a good job of hiding it and people in VA are catching on. Our schools have been in the process of a government take over (in earnest) for more than 20 years. If we don't shut down the Department of Education it will never stop. We have to cause a citizen uprising!!


http://www.novarata.net/video/OET-Draft-Grit-Report-2-17-13.pdf
Pages 39-45


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And for those of you who watch Fox News-

Rupert Murdoch Wins Contract to Develop Common Core Tests used in 45 states



Last edited Mon Mar 18, 2013, 06:55 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Amplify, the company owned by Rupert Murdoch, won a $12.5 million contract to develop formative assessments for Common Core tests. The award was made by the Smarter Balanced Assessment Consortium, one of two groups funded by the Obama administration to create national tests, administered online. Joel Klein runs Murdoch’s Amplify division.

When Murdoch purchased Wireless Generation in the fall of 2010, he said:

“When it comes to K through 12 education, we see a $500 billion sector in the U.S. alone that is waiting desperately to be transformed by big breakthroughs that extend the reach of great teaching,” said News Corporation Chairman and CEO, Rupert Murdoch. “Wireless Generation is at the forefront of individualized, technology-based learning that is poised to revolutionize public education for a new generation of students.”

http://dianeravitch.net/2013/03/17/r...on-core-tests/


and this is just the beginning!

murdoch's also going to be collecting your kids' personal data!

isn't education reform wonderful?


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http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/03/15/how-common-core-is-dumbing-down-america’s-schoolchildren/






http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/schools-are-prisons-1





http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/ar...ic-schooling-controlling-the-masses/#comments






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Koolbota

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The U.S. Department of Education’s Data Mining Efforts

Posted on March 12, 2013 by Joy Pullman



The U.S. Department of Education is investigating how public schools can collect information on “non-cognitive” student attributes, after granting itself the power to share student data across agencies without parents’ knowledge. The feds want to use schools to catalogue “attributes, dispositions, social skills, attitudes, and intrapersonal resources, independent of intellectual ability,” Link Removed, all under the guise of education.
The report suggests researching how to measure and monitor these student attributes using “data mining” techniques and even functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging, although “devices that measure EEG and skin conductance may not be practical for use in the classroom.” It delightedly discusses experiments on how kids respond to computer tutors, using cameras to judge facial expressions, an electronic seat that judges posture, a pressure-sensitive computer mouse, and a biometric wrap on kids’ wrists.
But that’s not all the feds want to know about your kids. The department is also funding and mandating databases that could expand each kid’s academic records into a comprehensive personal record, including “health-care history, disciplinary record, family income range, family voting status, and religious affiliation,”according to a 2012 Pioneer Institute report and Link Removed for Link Removed. Under agreements every state signed to get 2009 stimulus funds, they must share students’ academic data with the federal government.
As Utah blogger Christel Swasey has documented, the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) used to protect highly personal psychological and biological information, including items mentioned above and,Link Removed, “fingerprints; retina and iris patterns; voiceprints; DNA sequence; facial characteristics; and handwriting.”
Under the DOE’s 2011 FERPA reinterpretation, however, any local, state, or federal agency may designate any individual or organization as an “educational representative” who can access such data—as long as the agency says this access is necessary to study or evaluate a program. These can include school volunteers and companies. A lawsuit against the regulations is pending.
Meanwhile, several agreements the DOE has signed with two organizations writing national Common Core tests insist that information these tests collect must be “student-level”—meaning these would not be anonymous records, but tied to specific kids. Previous FERPA interpretations required data collectors to identify students by random numbers. No one knows yet what personal data the Common Core tests will collect, because they’re not written and released. But this information motherlode has to come from somewhere. Since the tests are being written by private organizations, although entirely funded so far by the federal government, no one can do a public records request to find out.
In short, the government wants to collect a dossier on every child, containing highly intrusive, personal information, without asking permission or even notifying parents. Its officials believe “federal agencies should invest in programmatic portfolios of research” to monitor and influence student attitudes through schools, says the February DOE report.
The department recommends that schools start tracking and teaching kids not just boring old knowledge, but also “21st Century Competencies”: “recognizing bias in sources,” “flexibility,” “cultural awareness and competence,” “appreciation for diversity,” “collaboration, teamwork, cooperation,” “empathy,” “perspective taking, trust, service orientation,” and “social influence with others.” I’m really looking forward to seeing how psychologists profiling children for government reports interpret each of these characteristics.
Utah officials told Swasey no student may attend public schools there without being tracked. But kids can’t escape that easily: Part of the agreement states signed for stimulus money includes a requirement that schools collect data on students who are not tested.
All of this looks like another step in the federal government’s push to compile an intimate, cradle-to-grave dossier on every American. What they might intend to do with all that information remains a rather disturbing question.


http://truthinamericaneducation.com/...ining-efforts/
 

Koolbota

Banned
The U.S. Department of Education’s Data Mining Efforts

Posted on March 12, 2013 by Joy Pullman



The U.S. Department of Education is investigating how public schools can collect information on “non-cognitive” student attributes, after granting itself the power to share student data across agencies without parents’ knowledge. The feds want to use schools to catalogue “attributes, dispositions, social skills, attitudes, and intrapersonal resources, independent of intellectual ability,” Link Removed, all under the guise of education.
The report suggests researching how to measure and monitor these student attributes using “data mining” techniques and even functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging, although “devices that measure EEG and skin conductance may not be practical for use in the classroom.” It delightedly discusses experiments on how kids respond to computer tutors, using cameras to judge facial expressions, an electronic seat that judges posture, a pressure-sensitive computer mouse, and a biometric wrap on kids’ wrists.
But that’s not all the feds want to know about your kids. The department is also funding and mandating databases that could expand each kid’s academic records into a comprehensive personal record, including “health-care history, disciplinary record, family income range, family voting status, and religious affiliation,”according to a 2012 Pioneer Institute report and Link Removed for Link Removed. Under agreements every state signed to get 2009 stimulus funds, they must share students’ academic data with the federal government.
As Utah blogger Christel Swasey has documented, the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) used to protect highly personal psychological and biological information, including items mentioned above and,Link Removed, “fingerprints; retina and iris patterns; voiceprints; DNA sequence; facial characteristics; and handwriting.”
Under the DOE’s 2011 FERPA reinterpretation, however, any local, state, or federal agency may designate any individual or organization as an “educational representative” who can access such data—as long as the agency says this access is necessary to study or evaluate a program. These can include school volunteers and companies. A lawsuit against the regulations is pending.
Meanwhile, several agreements the DOE has signed with two organizations writing national Common Core tests insist that information these tests collect must be “student-level”—meaning these would not be anonymous records, but tied to specific kids. Previous FERPA interpretations required data collectors to identify students by random numbers. No one knows yet what personal data the Common Core tests will collect, because they’re not written and released. But this information motherlode has to come from somewhere. Since the tests are being written by private organizations, although entirely funded so far by the federal government, no one can do a public records request to find out.
In short, the government wants to collect a dossier on every child, containing highly intrusive, personal information, without asking permission or even notifying parents. Its officials believe “federal agencies should invest in programmatic portfolios of research” to monitor and influence student attitudes through schools, says the February DOE report.
The department recommends that schools start tracking and teaching kids not just boring old knowledge, but also “21st Century Competencies”: “recognizing bias in sources,” “flexibility,” “cultural awareness and competence,” “appreciation for diversity,” “collaboration, teamwork, cooperation,” “empathy,” “perspective taking, trust, service orientation,” and “social influence with others.” I’m really looking forward to seeing how psychologists profiling children for government reports interpret each of these characteristics.
Utah officials told Swasey no student may attend public schools there without being tracked. But kids can’t escape that easily: Part of the agreement states signed for stimulus money includes a requirement that schools collect data on students who are not tested.
All of this looks like another step in the federal government’s push to compile an intimate, cradle-to-grave dossier on every American. What they might intend to do with all that information remains a rather disturbing question.


http://truthinamericaneducation.com/...ining-efforts/
 

snatale42

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I call BS. The criteria for diagnosing with ADD, ADHD and Austism is growing every day. It takes NOTHING to be diag'd with these any more and NOTHING to simply be dumped with meds.
 

Nightmare45

NRA LIFE MEMBER
I personally know of a school in Houston, where ADHD would be a pandemic if you listen to the teachers wanting to put most of the boys into that category were it true, call BS, just because boys will be boys in no reason to put them on meds. Speaking of meds how is that working for the mental health group, mass murder folks were mostly under mental health care and on meds and committing murder.
 

HD-kutz

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ADD, ADHD and Autism are very real BUT in my opinion are way over diagnosed. It has nothing to do with parenting or sissified schools. Some school employees and even parents love the meds because they make their job easy by creating stepford kids and this IMHO is criminal.
unless you have actually worked with the real deal you haven't a clue. The cause isn't really known but it is real, no less real then any other disability. Learning how to compensate without meds can work well for mild cases. Setting boundaries and structure works well.
 

TroutStalker

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It's all parenting. These same kids diagnosed with ADHD have parents and teachers pointing fingers at each other like their members of our current congress. Too much blaming. Too much stimulation. Try turning the TV and video games off and actually teaching your kids to behave, which, like the old days may require a swift kick in the ass. I would have most certainly been diagnosed with ADHD as a kid. That was until I realized the my actions had consequences. Did I mention my dad's belt was named "consequences". I got it twice a day. Once for something he caught me doing and once for something he knew I probably did but didn't witness.

I see so many parents let their kids run all over them. Those kids go to school and think they can do the same with their teachers. Presto ADHD.
 

TroutStalker

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None of the three. You are responsible for your kids. Not someone else. We are talking in the context of the "quick to diagnose " ADHD epidemic in this country. Yes. There are true cases of ADHD. Unfortunately, as many agree in this thread, ADHD is always vomited out as a reason for a kid who has not been disciplined. Either you are clueless, without kids or both. Controversial enough for ya?
 

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