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CharlieK

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About a week ago I was inside a McDonald's getting breakfast. A man about three ahead of me in line had what appeared to be a Glock on his right hip, well exposed.

After going through the line, I was out getting condiments and saw him again. I said, "Congratulations." He said, "What for?" I said, "For carrying that equalizer on your hip." He said, "It's better to have it and not need it." I said, "Right on."
 
For all those of you that say you would walk up and ask me about my gun, or if I wanted to go shooting sometime or just say hey that's cool man...

I'd prefer you just mind your own business.

I get this sometimes and am always polite but make it clear that I'm not looking for new friends. Matter of fact, if someone approaches me about my OCing, I go from yellow to orange. Just a word to the wise
 
I had only seen one open carrier...in Cabela's...and he's not a staff member. Good for you for congratulating him. A kind word here and there will not go astray...
 
Since the state I live in has always been an open carry legal state, I've carried that way more than most of the new crop of OCer types. That said, there was always some trepidation and a little concern that uneducated individuals would get all stirred up and create a problem that would be blown out of proportion by some overachiever cop.
If it's legal, I have no real problem with OC. If there is a concealed option, I place the OC option in the same category as having purple hair or some other "different" personal statement. If possible, I don't care to draw unnecessary attention to myself(especially from anti-gun freaks).
While spending a summer in Colorado in 2010, I noticed on multiple occasions, a 60'ish man in Walmart OC'ing a S&W 9mm. The actions of many of the tourist types were borderline hysterical(not the funny kind). Those people would literally run away from this guy who was just trudging around picking up his items and not endangering anyone. I was CC'ing my Ruger 9mm and caused no reaction at all from those same individuals.
Making a personal statement by having purple hair or flaunting wild tattoos is one thing but OC'ing(if there is a CC option) may have the downside of infringing on my gun rights at some point.
 
Since the state I live in has always been an open carry legal state, I've carried that way more than most of the new crop of OCer types.

Is there some kind of special difference between those who open carried a lot and...as you said and I quote..."the new crop of OC'er types"?

That said, there was always some trepidation and a little concern that uneducated individuals would get all stirred up and create a problem that would be blown out of proportion by some overachiever cop.

Odd... my experience OC'ing has shown that after a short period of time the feeling of trepidation goes away and is replaced with the confidence of knowing the laws and having the ability to talk with folks who aren't aware of the laws... and also the confidence to handle interactions with police in a positive manner. And yes... been there/done that/likely will happen again too.

If it's legal, I have no real problem with OC. If there is a concealed option, I place the OC option in the same category as having purple hair or some other "different" personal statement. If possible, I don't care to draw unnecessary attention to myself(especially from anti-gun freaks).

So which is it? OC is fine if it's legal? Or is OC, and by inference those who OC, in the same category as all those other folks who are .... "different"?

While spending a summer in Colorado in 2010, I noticed on multiple occasions, a 60'ish man in Walmart OC'ing a S&W 9mm. The actions of many of the tourist types were borderline hysterical(not the funny kind). Those people would literally run away from this guy who was just trudging around picking up his items and not endangering anyone.

There were people "literally" (the word "literally" means it actually for real happened) running away from a man shopping just because he was wearing a gun? Really? Were the police called to respond to this big disturbance?

I personally do not understand the mentality of folks who think it is their responsibility to make sure they never "offend" or "upset" other people. I don't give two farts in a windstorm if folks don't like what they see on my belt. It is not my responsibility to live my life in accordance to the opinions of others... nor am I responsible to soothe the irrational fears of irrational people.

I have the right to bear arms... and if folks don't like to see a citizen of the United States of America exercising the right to bear arms ... well... they have the right to look at something else instead of looking at me.


I was CC'ing my Ruger 9mm and caused no reaction at all from those same individuals.

So? Does that elevate CC over OC in some manner? Or is that really an indication that society has been indoctrinated to fear guns?

Making a personal statement by having purple hair or flaunting wild tattoos is one thing but OC'ing(if there is a CC option) may have the downside of infringing on my gun rights at some point.

First of all.... (warning... rant follows) a concealed carry PERMIT is NOT "gun rights"!!!! A damn PERMIT is the exact opposite of a gun "right" and actually is a gun PRIVILEGE! controlled by the government that only gives "permission" to those it deems acceptable.(rant over)

And for some folks, myself included, open carry IS a personal political statement (the political statement part is also covered under the first Amendment part about "free speech") protesting the government wanting to increase it's ability to control guns.

Seems like OC often gets attacked because of the fear that someone will do something to endanger that precious carry "permit". That bit of paper that some people not only believe is some kind of "gun right" but even think indicates the person is a cut above all those other lowly folks who don't have the government's blessing as a special class of person with permission to carry a deadly weapon.

Now... if there is anything that endangers the right to bear arms it is that damn "permit system" because as long as the government has the power to give... deny... or take away.. permission then people don't have the right to bear arms... they have a government controlled privilege that they must pay for and kiss ass to get.

"Shall not be infringed" means..... the government shall not have the power to require permission.

But the greatest danger to the right to bear arms is ............... all those people who think a "permit" is somehow a "right" embracing the permit system as how things should be and denigrating anyone who doesn't adhere to it.

In the interest of full disclosure... I have a "permit" and I also CC in addition to OC every day everywhere it is legal in my State for a person to possess a firearm.

But I have no illusions that a "permit" makes me more special than anyone else... or that OC'ing makes me more special than anyone else.... or that CC is intrinsically better than OC... or that OC is intrinsically better than CC for that matter.

And I am well aware that a government required "permit to carry" is the exact opposite of "right to keep and bear arms".
 
After going through the line, I was out getting condiments and saw him again. I said, "Congratulations." He said, "What for?" I said, "For carrying that equalizer on your hip." He said, "It's better to have it and not need it." I said, "Right on."
OK, now I'm confused. Why would you congratulate anyone for carrying a gun on their belt? Like they won the Powerball lotto or something? As someone who open carries daily I would be a bit taken aback and certainly on higher alert after somone did that to me. So you were all gung ho for his exercising his right to carry. What about you? Why was your gun not out in plain view on your belt? Do you have something to hide? Are you a felon? I don't get this at all. This is USACarry. I asume most if not all of us are legally able to carry guns. So what makes you go up to random armed strangers and make a big deal over something you should also be doing everyday too. It's like someone seeing my minimag flashlight on my belt and congratulating me on having it. OOOOKKKK..... I was shopping today with my ham radio walkie-talkie on my belt this morning. If someone walks up to me a congratulates me for having a portable radio on my belt I'm going to think they are off their meds. Yes, I have a freaking gun on my belt? Glad you think that's awsome. Now, Why don't you have yours on your belt?
 
OK, now I'm confused. Why would you congratulate anyone for carrying a gun on their belt? Like they won the Powerball lotto or something? As someone who open carries daily I would be a bit taken aback and certainly on higher alert after somone did that to me. So you were all gung ho for his exercising his right to carry. What about you? Why was your gun not out in plain view on your belt? Do you have something to hide? Are you a felon? I don't get this at all. This is USACarry. I asume most if not all of us are legally able to carry guns. So what makes you go up to random armed strangers and make a big deal over something you should also be doing everyday too. It's like someone seeing my minimag flashlight on my belt and congratulating me on having it. OOOOKKKK..... I was shopping today with my ham radio walkie-talkie on my belt this morning. If someone walks up to me a congratulates me for having a portable radio on my belt I'm going to think they are off their meds. Yes, I have a freaking gun on my belt? Glad you think that's awsome. Now, Why don't you have yours on your belt?

Who pooped in your coffee, yaley? Trying to equate a flashlight or walkie-talkie with a handgun is a little over the top. I congratulated him because he was the one and only one I had ever seen in this small, rural community carrying openly. I had a right to congratulate him, in spite of pr_cks like you.
 
Boy, some of our OC crowd are a bit on edge. I don't remember the last time I saw someone OC so I can't tell you whether I made a comment or not. I can tell you that if I think someone might be interested in a talk about guns I am likely to leave an opening. I have made comments about someones hair, jewelry, car, or other item that caught my attention. A thumbs up at a really cool car while driving down the highway invariably brings a smile. Sometimes these are meant to open a conversation but mostly they are just meant to compliment someone. I have brought many a smile to a total stranger.

Treo, I understand your going to orange when someone comments about guns. Then again, I expect that most of us do when approached by strangers on any subject. Ladies, seniors, and anyone that might be perceived as being weaker are especially at risk. Even if I start the conversation I will be more alert when conversing with a stranger. I do wonder if you are as cool to someone who comments on tour car or attire or if the gun is a touchy point with you.
 
Who pooped in your coffee, yaley? Trying to equate a flashlight or walkie-talkie with a handgun is a little over the top. I congratulated him because he was the one and only one I had ever seen in this small, rural community carrying openly. I had a right to congratulate him, is spite of pr_cks like you.

To a degree I agree w/ Yalec. I don’t open carry for your edification, I don’t want your positive feedback, I don’t want your comments at all. I want you to leave me alone.

If I don’t know you and you get into my bubble and start talking about my firearm I’m going to go from yellow to orange. Just sayin’.

Treo, I understand your going to orange when someone comments about guns. Then again, I expect that most of us do when approached by strangers on any subject. Ladies, seniors, and anyone that might be perceived as being weaker are especially at risk. Even if I start the conversation I will be more alert when conversing with a stranger. I do wonder if you are as cool to someone who comments on tour car or attire or if the gun is a touchy point with you.

To be perfectly honest if I don’t know you I don’t want you in my bubble at all. I don’t care what you think of my hat or my choice of car, or the tools in my roll away (and no I won’t loan you any of them). The older I get the less I like to interact with strangers, that’s just who I am.

I would be a little more on alert if you started talking about my gun because your conversation shows that you are focused on it.
 
I didn't say this when I first described the interaction, but he actually thanked me for congratulating him. That says a lot about you two, IMHO.
 
Caribou:297720 said:
Boy, some of our OC crowd are a bit on edge.

Treo? I thought he concealed but supported open carry. Even if he does open carry, he is one person, who else are you taking about?
 
I didn't say this when I first described the interaction, but he actually thanked me for congratulating him. That says a lot about you two, IMHO.

And your point would be? I stated very clearly "If I don't know you I'd appreciate it if you'd mind your own business". I don’t like people I do know getting in my business and I like people I don’t know doing it even less. I am certain I'm not the only person in the world that feels that way. Had it been me that you ran into I wouldn't even have acknowledged that you spoke and that's my right

Treo? I thought he concealed but supported open carry. Even if he does open carry, he is one person, who else are you taking about?

I conceal about 99.99999999999% of the time because of my style of dress. I have worn some type of uniform my entire adult life and when I'm not working I like to wear Hawiian shirts untucked. Obviously, this precludes me from OCing most of the time.


I have no objection to OC on any level but I'm not going to change how I dress to do it.


When I do OC it's because I had a jacket on and it got hot.
 
I stated very clearly "If I don't know you I'd appreciate it if you'd mind your own business" I am certain I'm not the only person in the world that feels that way. Had it been me that you ran into I wouldn't even have acknowledged that you spoke and that's my right.

Yes, you are correct Treo, people do have the right to act like jerks, but that still does not necessarily make it right.
You sound like you are wound up a bit too tightly i.m.h.o.
There's really no harm in smiling & being polite.
 
Yes, you are correct Treo, people do have the right to act like jerks, but that still does not necessarily make it right.
You sound like you are wound up a bit too tightly i.m.h.o.
There's really no harm in smiling & being polite.

I don’t see it as being a jerk; I see it as preferring to be left alone. I am not by nature an outgoing person, I never have been and I don’t expect that I ever will be.

If some random stranger approaches my I have no way of knowing his intent. Is this some random comment that I don't want to hear anyway or is it an interview?

I don’t see any reason why I should be subject to some random stranger invading my space and imposing his opinion of my life upon me. I never said I’d be a jerk, I said I’d act like he never spoke at all Why that is unreasonable?
 

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