I do have a problem with my pistol, but...

ZIG1911

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I probably got a factory defect pistol, but honestly it doesn't bother me much (even most, if not all, people would say it is always best to have a gun that doesn't jam...)
I go to range once a week, spend around 25 rounds just to keep my hands and eyes used to shooting. Almost all the time I have one or two FTF... I don't know why it is caused, maybe my holding is not firm enough, maybe recoil spring is not lose/tight enough... I am not sure, but I had never had problems with the first few shots. Seems like very last round having problem feeding into chamber.
What this problem does to me is to train me to handle it as quick as possible. I know every second counts during a conflict, but it is also good to train for jammed rounds. My timing to fix the jam is getting faster each time.
Again, even though I know it is very important to have a perfect working pistol, it also is big advantage to have a firearm that shots first few rounds perfectly than not to have any :)
 
I don't know what kind of gun you have, but it sounds like you might have a bad magazine. The spring might be too weak to push the last couple of rounds into the chamber??? Maybe purchase a new magazine and see if the problem goes away. If it does, you can save your current magazine for practice only. Mark it in some way so you never use it as your carry magazine.

If this doesn't fix the problem, let us know what kind of gun your using and maybe someone will come up with another possible fix.
 
Grip does have A LOT to do with it, but since you describe it as almost always near the end of a loaded mag, I vote for bad mag or bent lips....
 
I had a similar issue with one of my pistols (ATI 1911 22LR - Great practice gun) turned out to be the gun not likeing the ammo I was using. If you haven't aleady tried different ammo, I would recomend that.
 
Depends on how long you have had the gun but it, and the mag may just need breaking in. First 2 mag loads I put thru the S&W 4006 stovepiped the third round each time. Played with the mag by shoving the follower down a number of time and allowing it to pop back up. Third, fourth, and fifth mag loads ran without problems.
 
A little bit off topic. I reload and I load in 1000 round batches. Out of that 1000 rounds I will deliberately load about 70 to 80 rounds to cause malfunctions. Such as low powder charge so it will not cycle. Seating the bullet to long so it will fail to feed. etc. I will mix up the 1000 rounds before I load them in ammo boxes so I have no idea when they will show up. I have found this to be very valuable training.
 
A little bit off topic. I reload and I load in 1000 round batches. Out of that 1000 rounds I will deliberately load about 70 to 80 rounds to cause malfunctions. Such as low powder charge so it will not cycle. Seating the bullet to long so it will fail to feed. etc. I will mix up the 1000 rounds before I load them in ammo boxes so I have no idea when they will show up. I have found this to be very valuable training.

I hope you're only doing that with your practice ammo, and not your carry rounds. :eek:
 
I probably got a factory defect pistol, but honestly it doesn't bother me much (even most, if not all, people would say it is always best to have a gun that doesn't jam...)
I go to range once a week, spend around 25 rounds just to keep my hands and eyes used to shooting. Almost all the time I have one or two FTF... I don't know why it is caused, maybe my holding is not firm enough, maybe recoil spring is not lose/tight enough... I am not sure, but I had never had problems with the first few shots. Seems like very last round having problem feeding into chamber.
What this problem does to me is to train me to handle it as quick as possible. I know every second counts during a conflict, but it is also good to train for jammed rounds. My timing to fix the jam is getting faster each time.
Again, even though I know it is very important to have a perfect working pistol, it also is big advantage to have a firearm that shots first few rounds perfectly than not to have any :)

If none of the above ideas work, you should contact the manufacturer.
 
A little bit off topic. I reload and I load in 1000 round batches. Out of that 1000 rounds I will deliberately load about 70 to 80 rounds to cause malfunctions. Such as low powder charge so it will not cycle. Seating the bullet to long so it will fail to feed. etc. I will mix up the 1000 rounds before I load them in ammo boxes so I have no idea when they will show up. I have found this to be very valuable training.

This is a really good idea, that I would never share with anybody again unless you know for a fact that they are an experienced reloader. I can just see a newbie trying this out, loading too light causing a squib and blowing his face off.

That, and personally I wouldn't do it in such bulk. If I were to do this I would only load them a day or two before the range and only load enough for what I was going to shoot, usually 100-250 rds. I would just want to control the misloaded rounds and not lose track of them (before the range.)
 
The factory is in Turkey... I might contact budsgunshop, but I am not sure if I really want to deal with it. I haven't tried a different mag yet, these pistols have a great rating in budsgunshop, ZIG M1911 .45 cal. It shoots very good, very accurate. I had Ruger SR9 some years ago, even that pistol had FTF problem, it very well could be my grip on the gun, maybe should be little more firm.
If it comes to that, there are some gunsmiths around, I might ask one of them to take a look at it for me! Even though I am pretty quick solving the jam, of course every second counts in a conflict... I just hope, if there is any, I would end it with my first few shots!
 
The whole point is to lose track of them so that I never know when they will show up.


This is a really good idea, that I would never share with anybody again unless you know for a fact that they are an experienced reloader. I can just see a newbie trying this out, loading too light causing a squib and blowing his face off.

That, and personally I wouldn't do it in such bulk. If I were to do this I would only load them a day or two before the range and only load enough for what I was going to shoot, usually 100-250 rds. I would just want to control the misloaded rounds and not lose track of them (before the range.)
 
Wait a minute? Did I read the OP correctly? You are OK with a gun that you know is having failures because that forces you to train for failures?

Fix the gun (most posters and I agree it is most likely the magazine spring)... and when you want to train for failures, buy some snap caps and load them randomly in your magazine.

To keep a gun that you know does not work is, IMO, sheer lunacy.
 
The whole point is to lose track of them so that I never know when they will show up.


This is a really good idea, that I would never share with anybody again unless you know for a fact that they are an experienced reloader. I can just see a newbie trying this out, loading too light causing a squib and blowing his face off.

That, and personally I wouldn't do it in such bulk. If I were to do this I would only load them a day or two before the range and only load enough for what I was going to shoot, usually 100-250 rds. I would just want to control the misloaded rounds and not lose track of them (before the range.)

Well that's your prerogative I guess but I personally wouldn't mix them up with regular ammo until I got to the range.
 
Just got back from the range. I tested the magazine by leaving 3 rounds in each time I reload, so I shot 3-4 rounds, quick load and kept shooting (magazine holds 8 rounds). It very well could be the magazine, but I will test this a few more time to convince myself it is the magazine problem!
 

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