I am george zimmerman

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I refuse to allow myself to become a helpless victim of crime. This is why I carry; to protect myself and my family and our rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. I refuse to bow down to the misguided, anti-constitution, liberal ways of our society, no matter how hard the hollywood crowd and the biased media tries to cram it down my throat and make their ways seem normal. well, it isn't working. I live by the constitution and the precepts of the Bible. I may not be perfect but I will hold myself to a high level of integrity.

I have to ask, had George Zimmerman not been armed, would he have been the one being buried instead of Trayvon Martin? Based on the beating he was taking the probability seemed high.

And shame on you Mr. President for turning this into a race issue. YOU are the president of the United States and took an oath to represent all people of this country. To use the office of the presidency to flame the fires of racism - shame on you.

As you stated before America - I am Trayvon Martin, well Mr President, I am George Zimmerman. I am armed and I will defend myself and my family if attacked.
 
I have commented before that I think George would be dead if he hadn't been armed. I also don't think that, had I been in his position that night, I would have done anything different. He did nothing that a normal person would not have considered reasonable.
 
The progressive philosophy is evil; and it is in the process of destroying everything that is good and has value in our culture. It not only is destroying our economy but our culture, morality, self worth, ambition, individual liberty, and eventually the republic itself. In the name of progressive compassion and empathy we are creating a new culture of dependence, poverty, slavery, and the wonderful Marxist Utopia. We should thank all of the progressives in both parties and especially the Obama Administration for the destruction of our country. Our founders gave us a country that was built by the hard work and sacrifice of great men and blessed by God. It took 240 years to build and only one generation to destroy.
 
I agree with most of the above, but the goes back at least to the baby-boomers, who turned their kids into the latch-key generation, and things snowballed from there.
 
I am BluesStringer. I live in the deep South and rain can happen without warning at a moment's notice, same as Florida. If I see someone get caught in the rain, I offer my help, either a ride, or just a bit of cover to sit and wait for the shower to pass. No biggie. I'm rarely in a hurry. This is the South, remember? I've offered maybe 30 times, maybe 50, not real sure, given a few rides to a store or a home, whatever, and had several tell me no thanks, they'll be fine. Never had anyone threaten me or tell me to get lost you "creepy ass cracker." Funny how that works.

I am BluesStringer. I revere the Constitution more than any man I know. I am always, always, armed. I too refuse to be a victim. I too refuse to bow to any man, anti-constitution, liberal or the opposite like I am. I am my own man.

No one should ever have to become a world-wide pariah to emulate BluesStringer. No one should ever have to mount a million+ dollar defense to follow the example of BluesStringer, even if the crack he puts his ass in does turn out to prove his actions were lawful. People should never have to worry about leaving their hidey-hole without their body armor firmly in place to give props to BluesStringer.

People could do a lot worse than being like BluesStringer, but almost anybody could do better than being like George Zimmerman. I am decidedly not him.

I fully supported GZ throughout his trial. I mentioned the mistakes I think he made, but didn't dwell upon them, because I recognize the difference between poor instincts and judgment that manifest themselves while involved in perfectly legal activities, and what the law allows in defense of one's self or others. Even if I didn't believe GZ's version of events, which I generally do BTW, under the law, he should've been found not guilty simply because the mountain of reasonable doubt was only exceeded by the PERsecution's total lack of hard evidence.

None of that changes the fact that the whole affair could've been avoided any number of ways, both by Martin or Zimmerman. None of it changes that the case is as devoid of evidence that Martin was doing anything wrong that night as there was that Zimmerman didn't have the legal right to discharge his weapon when he did.

George Zimmerman shot and killed another human being in self defense. That's all. He's no hero, he's no shining example of truth, liberty, justice and the American Way. I sincerely hope this is the last fan-boy thread I ever see about the guy. His tactics sucked, his financial life is in ruins, he will be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life, and at least part of the responsibility for every bit of that sits squarely on his shoulders. Careful what you wish for. If you say you are George Zimmerman, you may lose your mind and become him, and I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want that.

Blues
 
I refuse to allow myself to become a helpless victim of crime. This is why I carry; to protect myself and my family and our rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. I refuse to bow down to the misguided, anti-constitution, liberal ways of our society, no matter how hard the hollywood crowd and the biased media tries to cram it down my throat and make their ways seem normal. well, it isn't working. I live by the constitution and the precepts of the Bible. I may not be perfect but I will hold myself to a high level of integrity.

I have to ask, had George Zimmerman not been armed, would he have been the one being buried instead of Trayvon Martin? Based on the beating he was taking the probability seemed high.

And shame on you Mr. President for turning this into a race issue. YOU are the president of the United States and took an oath to represent all people of this country. To use the office of the presidency to flame the fires of racism - shame on you.

As you stated before America - I am Trayvon Martin, well Mr President, I am George Zimmerman. I am armed and I will defend myself and my family if attacked.




That's a great Statement! I applaud your post. I'm also, one of the George Zimmerman's of the United States of AMERICA!!!!!!!

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I have commented before that I think George would be dead if he hadn't been armed. I also don't think that, had I been in his position that night, I would have done anything different. He did nothing that a normal person would not have considered reasonable.

I don't consider it reasonable to call the police about a person doing nothing more than walking down a street. I have had the police called on me just because I was eating dinner in a restaurant at dinner time with a handgun in a holster with a retention strap fastened. I don't consider that to be a resonable act at all. I am NOT George Zimmerman and have no desire to be Geroge Zimmerman.
 
I did not read anywhere in the op's statement that said anything about you, or anyone else for that matter to have police called on them for walking down the street. He was merely pointing out the injustice being committed by our president in the wake of the not quilty verdict.

Claiming to be another Zimmerman pertains to any of us here that carry a concealed weapon.
As you stated,you could be just walking down the street,and the next thing you realize, your own your back fighting for your life.

With some guy slamming your head off the concrete. Its not about being George Zimmerman,its about our country turning against us.

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I did not read anywhere in the op's statement that said anything about you, or anyone else for that matter to have police called on them for walking down the street. He was merely pointing out the injustice being committed by our president in the wake of the not quilty verdict.

I was not replying to the OP.

It is correct, however, that the anti-gun crowd, and the people who have racial predujice against whites are using this case as an excuse to push their propaganda. The people who are pushing for repeal of stand your ground laws are fully admitting that Travon Martin must have been the agressor, if they are going to also attempt to say that George Zimmerman should have been required to retreat rather than shoot. And, if they are going to say that George Zimmerman was the agressor, then they also have to say that it should have been Travon Martin who was required to run away. Either way you look at it, Travon Martin would be declared to be the criminal in that situation. The racists who are saying that the stand your ground law must be repealed to keep white people from killing black people refuse to tell you that black people who make up something like 15% of the population in the Florida but have used the stand your ground law to defend themselves 33% in all of the stand your ground defense cases. The racists who are saying that "justice must be served" are actually only saying that George Zimmerman must be CONVICTED because he was a white guy who killed a black guy and that has nothing to do with justice being served.

I get all that. I was specifically replying to the statement that "George Zimmerman did nothing that a normal person would not consider reasonable." Prior to Travon Martin actually committing a crime or appearing to commit a crime, I don't feel that any of George Zimmerman's actions to investigate or initiate an investigation of Travon Martin were reasonable.

I have been in Travon Martin's situation. I have been investigated for an action that, while not common, was not indicitive of any criminal act being committed. Did Travon Martin make a reasonable response to Zimmerman's investigation? NO, certainly not. But I cannot say that Zimmerman's investigation of Martin was reasonable either.

1. If we are going to say that Zimmermans actions to call the police to report Martin's presence and/or to approach Martin and ask what he was doing there are resonable, then we must also acknowledge that it would equally as reasonable for Martin to ask Zimmerman exactly the same questions.

2. Once the answer of "It's none of your damn business" is given by either party, then it would be reasonable to walk away from the situation and if you really felt the need to, let the police figure out if there is reasonable suspicion or not - unless there is actual reason to believe the person is committing a crime likely to result in grave bodily harm or death to another person.

3. Once there is actual reason to believe that the subject is committing or about to commit a crime that would result in grave bodily harm, then certainly taking action to prevent that is reasonable.

4. Was it reasonable for George Zimmerman to shoot Martin when he did? Absolutely. That's what the jury ruled. However, I will not say that the actions taken by either party leading up to that situation were reasonable - not Zimmerman's investigation, and not Martin's response to that investigation.

Let's apply this to my situation of eating dinner in a restaurant at dinner time while wearing a holstered handgun. Joe Customer calls the police and says, there is a guy wearing a gun on his belt eating dinner in this restaurant. Police respond, "OK. We will investigate it." Meanwhile, I finish my meal and proceed to leave the restaurant. Joe Customer comes up to me and says, Hey, I just called the police because you are wearing a gun. What is reasonable after that point? Is it reasonable for Joe Customer to attemt to detain me until the police arrive? NO. Is it perfectly reasonable for me to say to Joe Customer, "Well, that's fine and dandy, but I am going to leave now and go about my business?" ABSOLUTELY. Is it reasonable for me to physically attack Joe Customer because they have called the police and are just asking about my gun or telling me they called the police. NO. Would it be reasonable for Joe Customer to defend themselves if I did choose to attack them? ABSOLUTELY. Would it be reasonable for me to defend myself should Joe Citizen decide to atempt to physically detain me? Also ABSOLUTELY YES.

The only thing reasonable about the whole Zimmerman case was the jury's finding of not guilty, IMHO.
 
I don't consider it reasonable to call the police about a person doing nothing more than walking down a street. I have had the police called on me just because I was eating dinner in a restaurant at dinner time with a handgun in a holster with a retention strap fastened. I don't consider that to be a resonable act at all. I am NOT George Zimmerman and have no desire to be Geroge Zimmerman.
Both the recording of the call and Zimmerman's account of the incident cite the fact that Martin was not acting like he had a specific destination in mind. It was apparently like he sorta looked like he "didn't have the sense to come in out of the rain..."
 
Both the recording of the call and Zimmerman's account of the incident cite the fact that Martin was not acting like he had a specific destination in mind. It was apparently like he sorta looked like he "didn't have the sense to come in out of the rain..."

Since when is it indicitive of a crime to walk without a specific destination in mind? I've done that plenty of times. I've gone for a walk with no particular destination in mind. Same is true with bicycle rides and driving. I've stopped at convenience stores while on such walks and purchased candy and snapple as well. I've even done it in foreign countries where I would be just as out of place.

Also, I added quite a bit to my post above, probably while you were responding...
 
I did not read anywhere in the op's statement that said anything about you, or anyone else for that matter to have police called on them for walking down the street. He was merely pointing out the injustice being committed by our president in the wake of the not quilty verdict.

Claiming to be another Zimmerman pertains to any of us here that carry a concealed weapon.
As you stated,you could be just walking down the street,and the next thing you realize, your own your back fighting for your life.

With some guy slamming your head off the concrete. Its not about being George Zimmerman,its about our country turning against us.

Sorry man, you can reasonably and justifiably criticize the Obammunist et al for twisting the trial etc. into a race issue without naming the thread "I am george zimmerman." That set the tone for the whole thread, and Navy pointed out a line in a subsequent reply that he was specifically responding to.

After all Zimmerman has been through, much of it because of his own lapses in judgment and tactics, why anyone would claim to either be him, or to want to be like him, is a complete mystery to me. It smacks of the provenance of a masochistic mind that I do not relate to in any way, shape, manner or form.

Blues
 
Since when is it indicitive of a crime to walk without a specific destination in mind? I've done that plenty of times. I've gone for a walk with no particular destination in mind. Same is true with bicycle rides and driving. I've stopped at convenience stores while on such walks and purchased candy and snapple as well. I've even done it in foreign countries where I would be just as out of place.

Also, I added quite a bit to my post above, probably while you were responding...
Good point. I love to walk in the rain. The sound of rain is relaxing, the halo around headlights is enjoyable and lightning intrigues me.
 
I am George Zimmerman I meant to be a concept that applies to all Americans who choose to carry. At any moment any one of us can find ourselves in a situation which could result in us drawing and firing. God forbid that to happen but it could. All the defensive pistol training, all the safety instruction, all the range time can not prepare you for a real life situation in which the adrenalin is flowing, hearts are pounding arms are flailing etc. Under the heart of the moment, all reason can go out the door. I agree both GZ and TM made poor decisions that night. As a result,, do I literally want to be George Zimmerman? Of course not. Am I making him out to be a hero? Of course not, Am I making him out to be an idol? Equally no. He is an ordinary citizen, like me who chose to carry, like me. Thats the link to I am George Zimmerman. And there are hundreds of thousands of us out there from young moms to senior citizens who at any moment could find themselves having to defend their life with deadly force, just like George Zimmerman.

So who is to blame? I believe its society itself. From the All children are winners there are no losers, to the lack of accountability for actions, to fatherless homes, to the black leaders (Al Sharpton, Rev Wright, Barack Obama, Jessie Jackson, The New Black Panthers etc) who continue to perpetuate race as an excuse instead of fostering accountability among young black men, to the entertainment industry that glamorizes gang banger rappers in movies and music videos to the biased news media.

Here is a clear example of the media bias towards keeping race an issue.. I read today on AOL news that GZ came out of hiding (at risk to his own well being since there have been many death threats made) only to help a family in need when their SUV rolled over and trapped them inside. He helped pull all four out and to safety before their vehicle caught on fire. I watched the evening news (both NBC and CBS and saw lots of footage about the birth of the new prince, the Pope in Brazil, and other mundane events) no mention at all about GZ's heroic act.

Last week i saw a black woman carrying a sign that read I Am Trayvon Martin. The implication being that because she's black, she is Trayvon Martin. The flip side to that then is because I carry for self defense, I am George Zimmerman. However, I feel that because I/we carry, we do not have the right to instigate trouble, but are to be responsible and vigilant to avoid confrontation. I the case where trouble can not be avoided I will use deadly force if my life or that of my families is being threatened.
 
Zimmerman should have stayed in his car and continued to observe. Although I didn't see a shred of evidence that showed he committed a crime, he chose to put himself in a very bad position.....and for what?? A "suspicious person" walking down the street?? He's a sheepdog and I don't mean that as a compliment. From what I've seen the term "wannabe cop" or "hero complex" applies perfectly to him. Again......no criminal but a fool IMO. And a young man (no angel, to be sure) is dead because he almost certainly felt threatened by the "crazy-ass cracker", got angry, and decided to express his dissatisfaction with his fists. There's more than one person on this board who would have done the same thing in Martin's position. All because he was dragged into the world of an overzealous sheepdog.

The jury got it right.....I'm 100% convinced of that, but Zimmerman (at least on that night) is an idiot who made things more difficult for the rest of us.
 
And shame on you Mr. President for turning this into a race issue. YOU are the president of the United States and took an oath to represent all people of this country. To use the office of the presidency to flame the fires of racism - shame on you.

That was well stated. The President should be above this type of rhetoric.
 
Since when is it indicitive of a crime to walk without a specific destination in mind? I've done that plenty of times. I've gone for a walk with no particular destination in mind. Same is true with bicycle rides and driving. I've stopped at convenience stores while on such walks and purchased candy and snapple as well. I've even done it in foreign countries where I would be just as out of place.

Also, I added quite a bit to my post above, probably while you were responding...
We only have the verbal description of what Zimmerman saw. Whatever he saw made him suspicious - one Martin's subsequent actions certainly proved that Zimmerman's suspicions were justified.

With respect, I'm seeing WAY too much Monday morning quarterbacking going on here. I still say that, knowing what Zimmerman knew when he started observing Martin, there's a good chance I would have done the same thing. Conversely, knowing what we know now, not so much. And, as has been said, if Zimmerman had it to do over, he'd do it differently. Hindsight is 20/20...
 

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