How Do You Get A Pistol Free Zone Exemption

[Itstjs]

Lately I have been becoming increasingly interested in obtaining (if possible) legal exemption to Pistol Free Zones, I know almost always Current/Former LEOs, Judges and PIs have been the only ones allowed to be exempt from PFZs,I live in Michigan and have never heard of anyway to get the exemption...
To further the fact, Ive been thinking of also becoming a CPL instructor, however, knowledge Ive found online on how to become a CPL instructor have been vague, youd figure it would be simple to find out how to become one. Further more, I dont see the point in paying for "common sense" courses, such as "firearm safety inside your home" or "home defense" courses. Call me wrong, but I feel I shouldnt have to pay for courses like these when theyre common sense. Anyhow, would being an instructor qualify you for an exemption? Hopefully someone could help me on my way to becoming an NRA Certified Instructor & if possible PFZ exemption....


Thanks in advance.

 

[lamerem]

A while back I looked into becoming an instructor and still might. You have to call the NRA and sign up for their instructors course. I think it's like $350.

Hope this helps!!!

 

[YooperRob]

MI had a bill pass thru all the way to gov. that would allow carry in pistol free zones with extra training but the gov. turned it down.

 

[ezkl2230]

Under Michigan law, if you possess a CPL you can legally OC in a PFZ, but there is no exemption for concealed carry in a PFZ. Being an instructor gives you no additional carry rights.

YooperRob is correct that SB 59 would have opened up concealed carry for a CPL holder in a pfz with additional training, but it would also have done way with open carry by a CPL holder in a pfz - which is already legal.

I wish more of our faculty and staff in Michigan schools would take advantage of the legal right to openly carry in a PFZ with a CPL. We could already have armed teachers and staff in many schools.

 

[Itstjs]

Under Michigan law, if you possess a CPL you can legally OC in a PFZ, but there is no exemption for concealed carry in a PFZ. Being an instructor gives you no additional carry rights.

YooperRob is correct that SB 59 would have opened up concealed carry for a CPL holder in a pfz with additional training, but it would also have done way with open carry by a CPL holder in a pfz - which is already legal.

I wish more of our faculty and staff in Michigan schools would take advantage of the legal right to openly carry in a PFZ with a CPL. We could already have armed teachers and staff in many schools.

Im not much for OCing, but I do it on occassion, but who would really want to OC into say, a school especially with all the "fear of guns" going on? I wasnt looking to becoming an instructor to try and gain any additional carry rights, I should have outlined that, if anything, would just like the ability to train some people and get them carrying if they wish.

 

[Icemanii]

Under Michigan law, if you possess a CPL you can legally OC in a PFZ, but there is no exemption for concealed carry in a PFZ. Being an instructor gives you no additional carry rights.

YooperRob is correct that SB 59 would have opened up concealed carry for a CPL holder in a pfz with additional training, but it would also have done way with open carry by a CPL holder in a pfz - which is already legal.

I wish more of our faculty and staff in Michigan schools would take advantage of the legal right to openly carry in a PFZ with a CPL. We could already have armed teachers and staff in many schools.

So my son tells me some of the faculty at CMU have been seriously discussing carry rules there after the incident on Weds. Said it is an ongoing discussion regarding how to go forward. Told me also that it is about 6 to 1 pro gun right now.

 

[ezkl2230]

So my son tells me some of the faculty at CMU have been seriously discussing carry rules there after the incident on Weds. Said it is an ongoing discussion regarding how to go forward. Told me also that it is about 6 to 1 pro gun right now.

Unfortunately, the universities in Michigan have special status under the state Constitution to make their own rules regarding carry. Even though state law says we can carry in public, universities can develop their own that violate state law and there is very little anyone can do to change it. So the profs may be in favor of carrying, but if the administration says No, there is nothing the profs can do about it.

 

[Icemanii]

Unfortunately, the universities in Michigan have special status under the state Constitution to make their own rules regarding carry. Even though state law says we can carry in public, universities can develop their own that violate state law and there is very little anyone can do to change it. So the profs may be in favor of carrying, but if the administration says No, there is nothing the profs can do about it.

Yep, nice little loophole for the universities and the colleges. MCC is the same way, no weapons on campus - period. However, the more professionals that are on side, the better I think.

 

[dcselby1]

Yes, MI had a bill pass thru all the way to gov. that would allow carry in pistol free zones with extra training but the gov. turned it down.

Governor Snyder recently vetoed that portion of the legislation that would have allowed CC in gun free zones. He wanted to study it some more, so it MAY yet surface again, depending on how the nation goes with THEIR gun free zones that work so well. As for the OP, it did require additional training. As for training, I've been using guns since the '60's and I STILL learn something every time I take a course. I don't think that there is any such thing as "too much knowledge." Of course, I'm not young and don't know it all anymore. As far as I know there ARE no "exemptions" (except police) for pistol free zones which, I guess, is WHY they call them that.

 

[ezkl2230]

Governor Snyder recently vetoed that portion of the legislation that would have allowed CC in gun free zones. He wanted to study it some more, so it MAY yet surface again,

Sorry - Gov. Snyder doesn't want to "study it some more." He made his position crystal clear.

First, if SB 59 had passed, it would have done away with legal OC in a pfz - something that has been legal in Michigan for years; Snyder DEMANDED this change to SB 59 as a condition of signing it. He lied when he said he needed to "study it some more." He was already well aware of the provisions of SB 59. The only studying in which he is interested is seeing how he can make public carry of any kind either explicitly illegal or, at the very least, so difficult to do that it will amount to a de facto ban on public carry.

Second, Snyder stated that he vetoed SB 59 specifically because it did not give schools and other public entities legal authority to - and I quote - "ban firearms...:"

Snyder based his veto on the fact the bill wouldn't allow schools and other public locations to opt out of its provisions.

"While we must vigilantly protect the rights of law-abiding firearm owners, we also must ensure the right of designated public entities to exercise their best discretion in matters of safety and security," Snyder said in a statement. "These public venues need clear legal authority to ban firearms on their premises if they see fit to do so." Link Removed

Snyder was a closet Bloomer; with his veto of SB 59, he came out of the closet. He thinks it's all right if you want to use a firearm to hunt, or maybe to protect your home, but when it comes to defensive carry,

“I don’t see the value of having weapons really present in the schools, hospitals and places like that.”

Even though Snyder has owned guns since he was in high school and has a rifle and two shotguns now, he is no card-carrying NRA member. He rejects its argument that concealed guns are actually a deterrent to crime... “There is a difference of opinion on that. I’m not on that side in terms of looking at it.” Tim Skubick: Concealed weapons veto moves Gov. Snyder back toward the middle | MLive.com

Currently, public entities have no authority to "ban firearms." Snyder will not sign any legislation that does not allow public offices, schools, and other public entities to do so - something that has never been legal in Michigan.

Rick Snyder - Michigan's own Bloomer in Chief
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