Holster For Car Carry

Harry Carry

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I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of my Florida concealed carry permit. I've been thinking about how I want to carry my Sig P938 in the car. I've looked at the DeSantis Kingston. Three things concern me:

1) DeSantis does not list the P938. I've e-mailed the manufacturer twice over the past week and have received no replies (pretty lame). I wasn't sure if the P938 would fit one designed for the P238.
2) Obviously, before buying one, I want to first find out if it is legal to carry a firearm in such a manner in Florida.
3) The photos that I've seen show the buckle on top of the seating surface. I assume that the strap can be slid forward and aft so the the driver isn't sitting ON the buckle.

My review of the DeSantis Kingston CAR HOLSTER -- *PICTURES*

The other one I am looking at is the Gum Creek:

Vehicle Handgun Mount | Vehicle Gun Mount | Steering Wheel Gun Holster

Like the DeSantis, I'm not sure if this is legal in Florida.

Any suggestions and/or advice would be appreciated.
 
If you're looking for a rig that is strictly for in the car and want fast access if needed, check out GumCreek.com

Excellent products and it can be had in any size. I have one for my work van and personal car. When entering or exiting the vehicle I simply transfer to my EDC holster.
 
I had a Desantis Kingston but it didn't work out for me. The strap the holster mounts to just wraps around the bottom portion of your car seat. Every time I went over a bump, the weight of the gun would cause the strap to slowly slip a little, so eventually it rotated so my gun was under the seat. I could solve this by putting some pins through the strap into the seat so it couldn't rotate, but I found the strap dug into my butt uncomfortably no matter where I put the strap. If I'd had a relatively flat bench seat that may not have been a problem. I don't know. But with my bucket seats, there was always a depressed area of the seat where my butt goes that the strap would stick up out of and be irritating. You could loosen the strap to eliminate that, but then the gun would flop around. Another drawback to the Kingston is that it isn't easy to remove and install, and it's in plain sight. Anyone casually glancing into your vehicle will likely deduce that you carry a gun, and they might assume there's one in the vehicle. Criminals might break in as a result. I wrote a review of this holster on Amazon saying the same things.

I also reviewed the Pro-tech Seat Buddy on Amazon. It worked on much the same principle as the Kingston, but on the side of the seat so it wasn't as visible. There unfortunately was no way to get the Seat Buddy tight unless your seat back mount was very large, because the mounting strap was about seven inches around. The steel bar mounting my seat back to the seat bottom in my truck was only about an inch wide, so the Seat Buddy hung very loosely and flopped around quite a bit. You couldn't draw quickly from it at all.

I've looked at pictures of the steering column holsters but I can't figure out how they work. Every picture I've seen shows them mounted directly under the steering wheel, which would prevent the gun from being drawn from the holster. The picture on the Gum Creek site shows more room than the other pictures I've seen before, but it looks like the steering wheel is tilted fully up. I'm leery of having to add extra steps to the process of accessing my gun, particularly when it's mounted in a position that doesn't leave it in an optimal draw angle, which the steering column holsters seem to do. I've never seen one in actual use though, and I've never spoken with anyone who's had one, so it's possible I'm missing something.

The solution I came up with for myself may not work for you. I'm using a Blackhawk Sherpa holster on a quick disconnect mount. This works for me because I'm willing to drill holes in my center console. Many people aren't willing to drill in their vehicles. This is what it looks like in a vehicle:
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First, that's not my vehicle. The center console in my truck is between the front seats, so you can't really see the mount unless you're looking really hard. Most people wouldn't know what it was anyway. That's the mount on the left in the picture. The holster just clicks into it with a twist. the Serpa is also a retention holster, so the gun can't be removed without using the retention features. Mine uses only a button, but there are different retention levels in the Serpa line. My Serpa is for my Glock 21s. My Glock 30SF that I usually carry will also fit in it even though the holster isn't designed for it. It's a bit of a tight fit, but it clicks into place just as it should.

What works for you is really dependent on your situation, your vehicle and your preferences. There was a thread here not long ago where a guy had a custom injection mold made for his Glock to go in the center console of his BMW, but he was a big car customizing aficionado. So like I said, personal preferences. Good luck.
 
Great info, Rhino. Can't thank you enough!

May I ask what the quick disconnect is? Where did that come from? I sure have no problem drilling holes in the console of either vehicle - our newest is a 2005. You pretty much confirmed my fears about the DeSantis. And I had not even considered the visibility factor.
 
It's made by Blackhawk, who makes the Serpa holsters. Just do a Google search for "Serpa quick disconnect". You'll need both the female and male parts, but they often come in kits that include both. The male side screws to your holster and the female side screws to your vehicle, or to wherever else you may want to mount a gun. Many of the kits come with an extra female mount so you can have two mounting locations, or with extra male mounts so you can mount more than one holster, or with extras of both. Depends on the kit I think. The holsters are sold separately. Serpa holsters are designed to be multipurpose, so they all have screw holes that allow them to accept belt slides, pancake holster mounts, paddle holster mounts, these quick disconnect mounts, etc. The holsters themselves are sold separately. They are the only things that are gun specific.
 
If you want a holster for car carry that also works everywhere else, I recommend checking out CCW Breakaways pants holsters. They're very easy to draw from in any position, in or outside your vehicle. They also conceal completely without any discomfort, bulging or printing. The downsides are that you have to completely give up one of your pants pockets and they'll almost certainly be the most expensive pants you'll ever buy. Unlike a regular holster, you have to buy more than one pair of CCW Breakaways if you want to use them on a regular basis. You may not be able to order from them right now though. They recently lost their supplier and as of a few weeks ago were in the process of looking for a new one that could meet their standards of quality. I don't know if they've found one yet. I'm waiting to buy more as soon as they do. I need some shorts for summer.
 
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This is a Stick Up! Allows you to place a Holster where you need it; in your car or boat, on a bed, on the refrigerator. Everything needed including suction cups comes with The Stick Up. Choice of colors. Tensioning system standard.
 
Just wondering why you would want a separate holster for in-car carry, as oppose to carrying on your person. I carry on me all the time. I do keep a Gun Vault in my console for those occasions I need to go into a "no carry" building or area. Leaving a gun in a holster as pictured is a good way to get it stolen and a busted window. Again, just wondering.
 
A lot of people carry in positions that make the gun difficult or impossible to access efficiently while driving. That's probably the most common reason. For me personally, I fell down a flight of stairs several years back that left me with chronic pain in my right hip. Unfortunately that's where my IWB holster presses when I drive, so I'll usually remove it for more than just short trips around the local area. Mounting a holster allows me to do that and still keep my gun readily available.
 
Rhino.
Have you ever tried a cross-draw holster? some people with a hip problem use them. You just that a right hand draw OWB or IWB and put it on the 10 o'clock position. Best done with a variable cant holster. I have even done it with a el cheapo Blackhawk holster.
 
Thanks to Rhino for the Blackhawk suggestion. I think that that is going to be the ticket. I was not familiar with it at all. But, then again, after a 20+ year break, I am fairly new to firearms. And, hey...this is precisely why I started this thread in the first place.

SR9: Point well-taken. I bought a Sneaky Pete for my P938. I bought it with belt loops instead of a clip which makes removing it a pain. I really like it but I do not like wearing it while seated. The Blackhawk QD looks to be perfect. Should be easy to NOT make it appear as though there is a firearm in the car.

FWIW: I finally heard from DeSantis. They do not make a holster for the P938. But after hearing all of the negatives on the Kingston, that one was a no-go for me already.
 
those rigs would be illegal in Fla, the operative word on your license is CONCEALED, your weapon cannot be in plain sight
 
those rigs would be illegal in Fla, the operative word on your license is CONCEALED, your weapon cannot be in plain sight

Thanks, apvbguy. I understand. Looks like I may need to rethink this. Perhaps I'll look into mounting inside the console where concealment will not be a problem.
 
Buy a left handed serpa style holster (preferably the models without the unlock button) and mount it to the center console of the car (if you have a center console that is) if not then I would still get a left handed serpa and possibly mount it up under the dash somewhere you can get to it quick. Note if your left handed you can take a left handed serpa and mount it to the side of your seat providing theres enough room between the door and seat so your not slamming your firearm in the door. Otherwise for lefties tske a right handed serpa and mount it under console for your strong hand to draw faster. But remember to remove the unlock button so your not struggling to draw your gun.

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Permits arrived this week for both the wife and me. So we are happy campers.

I opted for the Gum Creek Vehicle Mount and holster:

Gum Creek Vehicle Handgun Mount Steering Wheel Gun Holster Mount

I really like the fact that there is no cutting, drilling, gluing or screwing required. And it can be easily moved from one vehicle to another. I just received it yesterday but I like what I see. These folks offer the best service in the world, too. I ordered it Sunday, it shipped Monday, and I received it Wednesday. I had a question about mounting which I e-mailed to them last night. I had a reply by 10am today. Top-notch in every respect.

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