Here's you gun grab....

[NavyLCDR]

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I'll just let the discussion begin....

 

[Keykutter]

Toby and Tyee ought to get the chair. Little bastards.

KK

 

[NavyLCDR]

Toby and Tyee ought to get the chair. Little bastards.

KK

They are just misunderstood youths according to Richmond Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Andy Johnson:

Johnson, speaking generally about juvenile cases, said it is rare in Richmond for a juvenile to be sent to detention after his or her case is adjudicated.

"Our goal is to try to get through to these kids before they become adults so we don't automatically lock them up every time they do something wrong," he said.

 

[Keykutter]

Wrong! I understand them just fine.

KK

 

[jrtyson72]

Life in prison? B.S. an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth!

 

[BamaBoy]

So according to Commonwealth's Attorney Andy Johnson, it's better that law-abiding citizens die than youthful hoodlums be locked up for committing serious violent crimes.

Good logic, Andy. We certainly don't want to mess up those kids' lives now, do we?

 

[Oldgrunt]

They are just misunderstood youths according to Richmond Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Andy Johnson:

We are becoming more like the UK in protecting the criminals rather than the victims. The inmates are running the asylum! They need to be exterminated before they can pass on their defective genes.

 

[S&W645]

We are becoming more like the UK in protecting the criminals rather than the victims. The inmates are running the asylum! They need to be exterminated before they can pass on their defective genes.

The gene pool could use a good dose of chlorine. Or lead.

 

[dusted]

unfortunately this is a lesson hard learned in why open carry is a bad idea 98% of the time. i believe that it should be an individual's choice, but in practice? it's just asking for trouble. while i'm proud of my right to carry a firearm, i'm a firm believer in the element of surprise, as long as i'm not the one being surprised. that being said, rest in peace, mr. tyler

 

[maybejim]

I have always wondered about the argument for "element of surprise" for concealed carry over open carry. It almost sounds like, the speaker is just hoping some BG will bring out his gun thinking he is safe so the speaker can blow him away.

 

[dusted]

mr. maybejim, it sounds to me like you're projecting. my firearm is to protect myself and the ones i love, not to kill the first BG that poses a threat. therefore, my weapon remains concealed, so that i'm not singled out as this unfortunate fellow obviously was. that was my point, nothing more. if my life is in danger, i would rather have the element of surprise in my favor. is that a little more clear sir? not everyone who advocates "element of surprise" is a bloodthirsty psychopath, which it seems to me you're insinuating.

 

[Rich M]

Whoa... $3.15 for regular, I paid $3.99 for deisel yesterday.

 

[Rich_S]

This illustrates one of the many pitfalls of open carry and is a perfect example of why open carry is not a good idea if you have the ability to carry concealed. Many people who open carry are really just in your face "look at me I have a gun" attention whores anyway.....

 

[Nightmare45]

I open carry in AZ at one home and CC here in Texas, feels natural in both states, I do not open carry to show gun, I open carry because of the second amendment and would if I could in Texas..

 

[BC1]

Oh boy. It's gonna get hot in here.

Considering their history, those little bastards should not have been on the streets. That's the real problem, not the fact that the victim was legally carrying his gun. If you OC be mindful of the people around you. Lot's of hardened criminals walking the streets.

 

[Warbirds]

If you conceal you need to make sure it stays concealed. I have never seen a IWB holster that had any type of retention system.

 

[NavyLCDR]

unfortunately this is a lesson hard learned in why open carry is a bad idea 98% of the time.

So, you have actually spent time in 100% of the locations in the United States and have evaluated them all and come to this conclusion through personal observation and intelligent evaluation? Or are you basing this statement on untested theories that sound good in your head?

I am lucky that, according to you, I live in one of the 2% of areas where open carry is better 98% of the time.

I was just waiting for the broad, my answer is correct for 98% of the people statements to come out.

Situational awareness is the biggest factor to surviving in this world. It doesn't matter if you carry a concealed gun, open carry a gun, or don't carry a gun at all. Not paying attention to your surroundings is the biggest mistake a person can make. In all likelihood, the incident in my OP could have been avoided if the gun carrier was paying attention and noticed a couple of hood rats following him and took simple action to both enhance his weapon retention and let them know that he was aware and watching them.

I open carry about 98% of the time, but I also pay attention to my surroundings. There have been times when I have kept my elbow tight against my gun because of something I have noticed and times when I have reached down to make sure the safety was off. There are times when I conceal my gun due to the situation (most of those don't have to do with criminal possibilities, though).

Nothing is a given and overconfidence in your routine is almost guaranteed to be a negative factor towards your suvival.

Many people who open carry are really just in your face "look at me I have a gun" attention whores anyway.....

Many concealed carriers are "wild west" vigilanties with superhero complexes who hide guns hoping that a bad guy will attack them to give them an excuse to play "quick draw" and rid the world of an evildoer. How's that for an equally ignorant statement?

There are those types of people in every segment of society.

 

[Rich_S]

I open carry in AZ at one home and CC here in Texas, feels natural in both states, I do not open carry to show gun, I open carry because of the second amendment and would if I could in Texas..

I own firearms because of the 2nd Ammendment but I don't open carry. How does open carry equate to the 2nd Ammendment?

 

[Rich_S]

Many concealed carriers are "wild west" vigilanties with superhero complexes who hide guns hoping that a bad guy will attack them to give them an excuse to play "quick draw" and rid the world of an evildoer. How's that for an equally ignorant statement?

There are those types of people in every segment of society.

I agree with that statement. It's not ignorant. It's true.

 

[NavyLCDR]

I agree with that statement. It's not ignorant. It's true.

Well... the ignorant part of both statements in question, I would say, would be "many". A more realistic statement would be "A small minority or percentage of..."

I also find it humorous how, if someone makes exactly the same statements about police officers, there would be a number of posters who would come back with "you are just being anti-cop, as usual."