Here wew go again

I read earlier that this was a traffic stop that got out of control. You are right, there is no such thing as a gun free zone. Our law makers are having a real difficult time trying to apply these gun control laws to lawless citizens that have no regard for the law or human life. I hope that the lawmakers will get a clue sooner than later.
 
RIP-Prayers go out to brother Leo's and his family! GET THIS GUY!!!

Virginia Tech says police officer shot near campus, possible second victim
Published: Thursday, December 08, 2011, 2:02 PM Updated: Thursday, December 08, 2011, 2:05 PM
By The Associated Press The Associated Press
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Virginia Tech said a police officer was shot Thursday and a possible second victim was reported at a parking lot near the campus, where 33 people died in 2007 in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history

A campus-wide alert told students and faculty to stay inside and lock doors. Authorities were seeking a suspect. University and law enforcement officials declined any comment on the officer's condition.

A law enforcement official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case, said initial reports indicated that the shooting occurred following a traffic stop.

The suspect was described as a white male wearing gray sweat pants, a gray hat with neon green brim, a maroon hoodie and backpack.

A message left with the university wasn't immediately returned. Campus police referred all questions to the university.

"It's crazy that someone would go and do something like that with all the stuff that happened in 2007," said Corey Smith, a 19-year-old sophomore from Mechanicsville, Va., who was headed to a dining hall near the site of one of the shootings, but stayed inside after seeing the alerts from the school. "It's just weird to think about why someone would do something like this when the school's had so many problems."

Darik Anderson, assistant ticket manager for the athletics department, said his office in Lane Stadium is next door to the coliseum but he could not see anything from his vantage point.

"We're in lockdown," he said. "All the news we're getting is what's on the school's website."

The shooting came the same day as Virginia Tech, which has an enrollment of about 30,000, was appealing a $55,000 fine by the U.S. Education Department in connection with the university's response to the 2007 rampage, when a student gunman killed 32 students and faculty and then shot himself.

A report of a possible gunman at Virginia Tech on Aug. 4 set off the longest, most extensive lockdown and search on campus since the 2007 bloodbath led the university to overhaul its emergency procedures. No gunman was found, and the school gave the all-clear about five hours after sirens began wailing and students and staff members started receiving warnings by phone, email and text message to lock themselves indoors. Alerts were also posted on the university's website and Twitter accounts.

That incident marked the first time the entire campus was locked down since the 2007 shooting, and the second major test of Virginia Tech's improved emergency alert system. The system was revamped to add the use of text messages and other means besides email of warning students.

The system was also put to the test in 2008, when an exploding nail gun cartridge was mistaken for gunfire. But only one dorm was locked down during that emergency, and it reopened two hours later.
 
[Updated 2:10 p.m. ET] Six agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives are at Virginia Tech to help with the response to Thursday's shooting.

Just as Eric Holder testifies to being a moron.
 
I am SO SICK of mindless regulations taking away people's ability to protect themselves. As far as I'm concerned, this kind of stupidity is tantamount to murder.
 
I am SO SICK of mindless regulations taking away people's ability to protect themselves. As far as I'm concerned, this kind of stupidity is tantamount to murder.
I'm starting to think on-line courses are the way to go. Too dangerous in those gun-free zones.
 
A traffic stop gone bad that just happened to occur on the VT campus. Of course the media is trying to link this somehow to the whack-o who went nuts 4 years ago. If this had happened out on the highway or somewhere, it would have been a small byline on the national news sites.
 
This is why I carry everywhere that doesn't have a metal detector. Call me a criminal or call me rambo, but ill be damned if I ever go out like this. Sucks for that cop too
 
Cotillion:249315 said:
This is why I carry everywhere that doesn't have a metal detector. Call me a criminal or call me rambo, but ill be damned if I ever go out like this. Sucks for that cop too

I won't voluntarily go anywhere I'm not allowed to carry. Keeps me honest and legal. But I totally get your point. A sign doesn't make it a gun free zone. Heck, in independent tests, TSA can't even do it 40% of the time!
 
A traffic stop gone bad that just happened to occur on the VT campus. Of course the media is trying to link this somehow to the whack-o who went nuts 4 years ago. If this had happened out on the highway or somewhere, it would have been a small byline on the national news sites.

At least someone gets it.
 
Prayers to the families of the officer and the maggot's family that shot himself. Yes they are victims also.
 
Even more interesting is the "message" being taught to our "supposed" brightest and best.

1) You are not mature enough to "carry" to protect yourself.

2) WE (the school) will "keep you safe", just follow our orders and all will be well.

3) In the case of "emergency", real or imagined, go hide, lock yourself in and hope someone else will take the risks associated with "threat reduction". (The "...hopefully before the body count gets too high." is implied.)

It's just another manifestation of the concept that throughout your life someone else is tasked with the effort of keeping you safe from every and all "realities of life". Be it parents, school, Government. "We are from the Government and we are here to protect you from......" your individuality if nothing else is available to protect you from. So be good little sheep and live happily ever after.

While "the land of the free" is becoming more questionable every legislative session.... we are selling our individuality, our self reliance, our self responsibility for the false presumption that the Government can keep the realities of life from breaking our little "snow globe" world of warm and fuzzy.

In short, perpetual dependents and perpetual adolescents.

Exactly where our "social elites" and "elected nobility" would prefer us to be.

Seventy years ago the Japanese Imperial Government attacked Pearl Harbor. Yammamato, having had been exposed to our culture at that time, predicted that it would only "tick us off" to the max. Ten years ago a bunch of fanatical Muzzies counted coup on a couple of our largest skyscrapers and it DID "tick us off", but the primary response was for the people in general to run to the Government and beg for protection.

In return we traded some of our sacred "rights" away, got saddled with a most annoying TSA, a Homeland Security Dept. that, I fear, has only just begun to become a severely freedom limiting organization and we started two, probably unnecessary, wars that did little to eliminate the REAL "threat" of Muzzie fanaticism at great cost to the taxpayers.

Can you see the difference between the two incidents? If you can, you understand the "threat" to our Nation, from internal sources. If you can't, well, it IS your Country too. If you are perfectly OK with the direction it is heading, both fiscally as well as freedoms-wise then do nothing and our once great Nation will, inevitably, end up with the Government it richly deserves if the vast majority seeks "safety" rather than freedom.

GG
 
Does anyone else wonder what the person that was in the traffic stop saw?
Did they call 911 after the officer behind them was shot?
Did they see where the shooter went?
Does the second body meet the description of the shooter?
 

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