Help Decipher my Employee Handbook

[Barroa1]

I am currently a CCW holder residing in the state of Nevada. I work in a retail environment directly interacting with the public and am concerned of carrying at my workplace. This is the only passage I found in the employee handbook regarding firearms:

“unauthorized possession of firearms, weapons or explosives on company property or while on duty, to the extent such prohibition is permitted by law”

I am confused on exactly what this means as to weather I need to be authorized by my company to possess a firearm on property or authorized by the state. If someone could please help me extract the meaning in more common words as to weather I can or cannot carry that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

[niceshootintex]

Ask your state if its legal first and then your HR for clarification. Don't take the word of forum folks. It's your job at stake.

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[Quiet Observer]

I agree with niceshootintex.

If you still want input from the "legal experts" here, you should post the whole sentence, not just a phrase out of context. You can find a summary of your state's law under the Concealed Carry Resources on this site.

 

[BluesStringer]

“unauthorized possession of firearms, weapons or explosives on company property or while on duty, to the extent such prohibition is permitted by law”

It's an unequivocal prohibition, not only regarding carrying, but also regarding having a firearm in your vehicle or stowed away anywhere else "on company property."

Assuming it's a national retailer, they had to adjust a prior full-on prohibition that had no caveat like the one listed here, because of states like mine (Alabama) that changed the law in 2013 forbidding employers from trying to control their employees' armed status even while driving to and from work. Employers here can prohibit guns being removed from an employee's vehicle while on company property, but they can't prohibit guns being stowed in employees' vehicles while they're inside during the work day. I have no idea if NV has a similar law, but if it does, I'll guarantee that it wouldn't protect you while carrying outside of your vehicle on company property. A law like that would be successfully challenged by a hundred different employers (probably even more than that) before the ink was dry on the Governor's signature. Besides that, I don't know of a state government that is anywhere near that "pro-Second Amendment," and doubt seriously any legislature would ever be able to pass such a bill in the first place. Alabama business lobbies fought tooth and nail against the in-car-stowage provision, which made the votes in the legislature very close, and this state is generally thought of as being among the most pro-gun in the Union, if that tells you anything.

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[Eidolon]

“unauthorized possession of firearms, weapons or explosives on company property or while on duty, to the extent such prohibition is permitted by law”

It's an unequivocal prohibition, not only regarding carrying, but also regarding having a firearm in your vehicle or stowed away anywhere else "on company property."

Assuming it's a national retailer, they had to adjust a prior full-on prohibition that had no caveat like the one listed here, because of states like mine (Alabama) that changed the law in 2013 forbidding employers from trying to control their employees' armed status even while driving to and from work. Employers here can prohibit guns being removed from an employee's vehicle while on company property, but they can't prohibit guns being stowed in employees' vehicles while they're inside during the work day. I have no idea if NV has a similar law, but if it does, I'll guarantee that it wouldn't protect you while carrying outside of your vehicle on company property. A law like that would be successfully challenged by a hundred different employers (probably even more than that) before the ink was dry on the Governor's signature. Besides that, I don't know of a state government that is anywhere near that "pro-Second Amendment," and doubt seriously any legislature would ever be able to pass such a bill in the first place. Alabama business lobbies fought tooth and nail against the in-car-stowage provision, which made the votes in the legislature very close, and this state is generally thought of as being among the most pro-gun in the Union, if that tells you anything.

Blues

^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^

I will also add this

Ask......your HR for clarification.

This is the WORST possible advice anyone could give you. Whatever you decide you say NOTHING to HR or ANYONE you work with. If you ask I promise HR will say no and they will be watching you like a hawk and will get rid of you the first chance they get

 

[niceshootintex]

^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^

I will also add this



This is the WORST possible advice anyone could give you. Whatever you decide you say NOTHING to HR or ANYONE you work with. If you ask I promise HR will say no and they will be watching you like a hawk and will get rid of you the first chance they get

Uh, sure. My bad if it wasn't apparent that you don't walk up to anyone anywhere about what you should or shouldn't do with your gun. If you have read any of my previous posts then you'll see that I'm not a fan of broadcasting my capabilities, seen or unseen. I support exercising OC rights but rarely have an opportunity so I'm 99.9% CC.

I'm definitely not into walking a grown man through the process of HOW to approach their HR. Put on your thinking cap for that one because common sense is organic, not taught.

I plainly stated it's your job at stake but only a rube would think that asking HR means anything but in a discreet manner. If someone has to tell you not to walk up to your HR Rep and ask them if/where you can keep a gun at work then that's a serious judgement deficit that should be addressed. And would be.

If you ask HR for a copy of your workplace rules handbook then it will lay it out for you very plainly. It should have been given to you at intake/indoc. I have never carried a gun onto a base in my almost 30 years because the rules were/are crystal clear and even after I retired I worked on secure properties/facilities where even my cell phone was not allowed in a building. I never HAD to ask then, I know exactly what the rules are where I am now, and if I didn't then I'd know exactly how to discreetly gain that information. I won't be asking a 25 year old millennial SHERM Nazi where I can stow my piece, lol.



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[NavyLCDR]

I agree with BluesStringer. Firearms are prohibited on company property unless there is a state law that says the employer must allow firearms on all or part of company property (which is usually limited to only stored in the vehicle in the parking lot if such a law exists.).