Has the Border Patrol Become the American SS?

[Oldgrunt]

I have always thought favorably of our law enforcement officers, even though some of them have been, and still are, horse's azzes and and not completely knowledgeable of their purpose in life. I watched a program on TV last night showing how law enforcement personnel are becoming more militarized and, in some instances, mere jack-booted thugs. In particular, I was appalled at the behavior of some elements of the Border Patrol in the Southwest. Road blocks are set up indiscriminately along roads to check people and determine their citizenship, which, on the surface, is fine considering the problems we currently have with illegals. However, watching the agents, they violated the Constitution in their handling of people and violating individual rights. Our rights of refusal to give certain information were abused and, in the case of a military man who showed his military ID and driver's license to prove his identity, his car windows were broken out and he was tazed. Approximately an hour or so later, he was released without charges and no recourse for the damages inflicted upon him. These checkpoints are set up as far as sixty miles from the border and operated with seeming hostility toward everyone being checked. I forsee terrible consequences occurring in the denial of basic respect to citizens. It doesn't cost anything to conduct themselves respectfully, yet professionally. Overbearing conduct can, and yet may, result in people getting hurt and/or killed. I remember hearing an addage, "An armed society is a polite society." The Border Patrol is armed but they should remember that they may run across someone else armed and not tolerant of overbearing conduct. Everyone has a breaking point.

 

[BC1]

From what I understand I may not ask someone to show proof of citizenship when hiring them. Americans... keep driving right through the checkpoint.

 

[Oldgrunt]

Only problem there is they will shoot a person for that and, again, no recourse against them.

 

[BC1]

Only problem there is they will shoot a person for that and, again, no recourse against them.

I'd rather be shot than detained by the progressive police. Screw them. Give me something to sue for. I'm bored.
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I can't imagine being stopped day after day within a few miles of my own home as I go about my business.

 

[Warrior1256]

I am very pro cop but I have become very concerned with how overbearing and militaristic many around the country have become over the last decade or so.

 

[Stengun]

Howdy,

I am very pro cop but I have become very concerned with how overbearing and militaristic many around the country have become over the last decade or so.

It started right after 9-11 when the Right demeaned that We give up Our Rights and Freedoms so they could feel safer.

Anyone that didn't go along with this was called unpatriotic and were accused of supporting the terrorist.

What was it Ben Franklin said? Something like anyone that is willing to give up their Freedom to feel safer deserves neither, or something like that.

Paul

 

[squibX]

Right,left or center what difference does it make. It seems even the Department of Education has a tactical team it's just gone crazy! Every news story has a slant nowadays.

 

[Oldgrunt]

Right,left or center what difference does it make. It seems even the Department of Education has a tactical team it's just gone crazy! Every news story has a slant nowadays.

You are correct and the problem will continue to get worse. Young people of today are being indoctrinated into accepting this behavior without question. Older people, who are from a different era, and some of the younger crowd, know this isn't right and are less tolerant of this subjugation and are pushing back. This is exactly what the POTUS has been pushing for and making us a non-thinking and subservient society but, as with all of his other policies, this one will unravel. Maybe the November elections will help change the government's attitude toward we peons. If the Senate leadership doesn't change tho', I don't have much hope.

 

[squibX]

The undressing of America has been happening for quite a few decades! Takes folks a chilled breeze to start feeling uncomfortable! 2nd amendment, defender of the rest!

 

[sdprof]

From what I understand I may not ask someone to show proof of citizenship when hiring them. Americans... keep driving right through the checkpoint.

Funny, I've had to show proof on the last two jobs I was hired for.

 

[mappow]

I-9's ARE required for employment.
As for CBP and DHS, I used to board Vessels coming into Ports form foreign. I used to work with professionals in CBP. That was better then 10 years ago. I can't imagine what CBP has morphed into with this current communist administration. For the most part GS people do what they're told to. Tyranny has become the controlling entity of the US populace. Time may be coming close to those that expound true Patriotism.
I whole heartily believe in the COTUS and the Rights there given. I don't agree with the those that want to control the populace through pen and phone.

 

[CharlesMorrison]

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[gunnerbob]

Howdy,



It started right after 9-11 when the Right demeaned that We give up Our Rights and Freedoms so they could feel safer.

Anyone that didn't go along with this was called unpatriotic and were accused of supporting the terrorist.

What was it Ben Franklin said? Something like anyone that is willing to give up their Freedom to feel safer deserves neither, or something like that.

Paul

What's interesting is that in much the same way you reflect on the last decade's tyranny-through-fear, you ridicule people now when they don't step in line with what Barry wants... except here you don't refer to them as unpatriotic but instead, Right-Wing loonies and things of that nature. Your hypocrisy shines through everywhere you go, Paul.

Dipsh!t...

 

[S&W645]

Howdy,



It started right after 9-11 when the Right demeaned that We give up Our Rights and Freedoms so they could feel safer.

Anyone that didn't go along with this was called unpatriotic and were accused of supporting the terrorist.

What was it Ben Franklin said? Something like anyone that is willing to give up their Freedom to feel safer deserves neither, or something like that.

Paul

Want to back that up a few years there buddy? Try 21 years before that. The BP setup checkpoints less than 10 miles from our house and demanded ID of everyone going north or south. So the start of it was under Carter and not Bush. Mariel boatlift - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia And led to this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conch_Republic

 

[kelcarry]

I have always thought favorably of our law enforcement officers, even though some of them have been, and still are, horse's azzes and and not completely knowledgeable of their purpose in life. I watched a program on TV last night showing how law enforcement personnel are becoming more militarized and, in some instances, mere jack-booted thugs. In particular, I was appalled at the behavior of some elements of the Border Patrol in the Southwest.

In a word to the question and title of thread--YES. Then again this whole federal government under its czars and dictator wannabe has become the SS. You name the alphabet agency, and they all are turning into thugs doing the heavy lifting for a sick attorney general and a sociopathic narcissistic moslem socialist pile of yada in the whitehouse. Name um---FBI, NSA, EPA (for heavens sake), DHS, etc etc.

 

[kelcarry]

I have always thought favorably of our law enforcement officers, even though some of them have been, and still are, horse's azzes and and not completely knowledgeable of their purpose in life. I watched a program on TV last night showing how law enforcement personnel are becoming more militarized and, in some instances, mere jack-booted thugs. In particular, I was appalled at the behavior of some elements of the Border Patrol in the Southwest.

In a word to the question and title of thread--YES. Then again this whole federal government under its czars and dictator wannabe has become the SS. You name the alphabet agency, and they all are turning into thugs doing the heavy lifting for a sick attorney general and a sociopathic
narcissistic moslem socialist pile of yada in the whitehouse. Name um---FBI, NSA, IRS, EPA (for heavens sake), DHS, etc etc. Wait til 2016 when Rahm Emmanuel's "crisis that should not go to waste" comes a-calling. Heck, even the military has been systematically purged of anyone who does not agree with the skinny idiot--the current crop of generals have noses the same color as his yada yada.