Handguns rated for 2000 rounds?

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A guy I work with and I were talking about handguns, and after a little conversing, I mentioned an advanced ccw course that requires 800 rounds of ammo, and that I was buying up the store whenever my brand came in. He told me that will burn out my gun because handguns are only rated for 2,000 rounds before they start failing to a point of unreliability. I train with/carry an XD-sc and have fired over 500 rounds since I bought it about 3 months ago, and will fire at least another 500 rounds by the end of the year.

I find it unbelievable that handguns are only good for 2,000 rounds, so I decided to ask some people here since I have never heard about the 2,000 round rating and I don't exactly know where to find the answer.

Thanks, - GLAD
 
A guy named Chuck Taylor has put 200,000 + rounds through a Glock. It's still running, so that thought is absurd! Look him up...
 
Absolute garbage and non-sense! The HK I have doesn't need a single part replaced for at least 20,000 round (more than I'll ever shoot, unless I get very rich lol), your gun will easily shoot over 2000 without even cleaning it!
 
My XD9SC had one failure at 3.5K rounds and it turned out I needed to clean it better, that was all...
 
2K rounds... for guns that cost upwards of 2/3K? Hogwash!!! That means you would have to "save" some of those to protect yourself? Funny!
 
To date I have around 7,000 through my Glock 22 and around 4,000 with my Glock 27. I have had zero failures and each one shoots like it was still out of the box. Sounds like your buddy though trying to be helpful is misinformed. It happens a lot. Someone hears information that may be out of context or apply to a specific set of circumstances and it gets generalized to apply to all firearms when in fact it's not. An example would be that some guys I know who shoot Glocks replace the plastic guide rod every 2500 to 3000 rounds due to the fact that they will crack. I think Glock recommends every 5,000 rounds. Those shooters that replace them with lower round counts are simply being cautious. The G27 does not use a plastic guide rod but someone unfamiliar with them my believe this applies to all Glock models which it does not. I use a Titanium rod in my Glock 22 so I don't have to worry about that either.
 
My H&K USP 45 has had over 10,000 rounds and is all factory I have never had to change a part and it is tight and still a great shooter. I have my grandfathers 1911 he got when he was 20 he used it my father and uncle used the hell out of it I have put countless rounds through it and it still runs great. I did put a new mag release on it when the spring int he old one let go.
 
2,000 rounds is simply a maintenance point for many auto pistols as in time to replace the recoil spring and start on the next 2,000 rounds ....... your coworker has opticalrectalinversion syndrome.
 
3000+ rounds through two of my XD pistols and almost 3000 rounds through my sig P250. I think they are just getting broke in. Not one problem in all those rounds.
 
Your co-worker is obviously suffering from a case of cranial-rectum inversion. However, he may only have experience with cheap crap guns which is definitive proof he is in fact suffering from cranium-rectal inversion. It is your responsibility to get him treatment by taking him and his cheap azz cap gun to the nearest high quality gun shop and make sure he rids himself of the source of his inversion.
 
SGB said:
2,000 rounds is simply a maintenance point for many auto pistols as in time to replace the recoil spring and start on the next 2,000 rounds ....... your coworker has opticalrectalinversion syndrome.
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Lol his eye is in his anus (technically that would be oculorectal anyways)? Just kidding, I know you meant something like occipitalrectral...or craniorectal inversion. Completely agree with that clinical impression too.

OP, whoever told you that should just slap himself.
 
For some real endurance tests of different handguns, check out pistol-training.com. He's a busy pistol instructor that uses the test pistols for carry and teaching. He gets some pretty high round counts out of his pistols: 13k out of his Springfield/Warren 9mm 1911 (his current test gun - http://pistol-training.com/archives/7270); 71k out of his Gen4 Glock 17 (http://pistol-training.com/archives/6885); his H&K45 had 50k rounds through it (http://pistol-training.com/archives/4027); his M&P9 lasted 62k rounds (http://pistol-training.com/archives/998); and 93k went through his H&K P30.

Most of the time, he went several thousand rounds between cleanings. If it wasn't getting stoppages, he was going to let it run. It was part of his endurance tests. What he did do, though, was meticulously perform recommended maintenance by replacing springs and parts according to the manufacturers recommendation. So, he didn't do anything special that the rest of us can't also duplicate.

so, yeah, 2000 rounds before massive failurs? Maybe in a Hi-Point, but I'd also take that one with a grain of salt. Both my LC9 (2250 rounds) and XD9 (3500 rounds) are well past that point.
 
I call those people "Richard Cranium's" or D1ck Head's for short.

Dennis in Idaho
"Citizenship requires three boxes: “the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.” Fredrick Douglas
 
The Beretta 92 is rated at 10K rounds before rebuilding by the US Army. I'd consider it an average weapon, and that number is likely thousands of rounds prior to potential failure.

I'd imagine that the average US Army sidearm takes 30 years or more to fire 10K rounds, though pistols fired by MPs and various security personnel probably take much less than that.
 
fstroupe said:
The Beretta 92 is rated at 10K rounds before rebuilding by the US Army. I'd consider it an average weapon, and that number is likely thousands of rounds prior to potential failure.

I'd imagine that the average US Army sidearm takes 30 years or more to fire 10K rounds, though pistols fired by MPs and various security personnel probably take much less than that.
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Have you seen the condition of the Berettas carried by the stateside security forces? They look like a scratched aluminium with some black finish spilled on them.

I think the OP needs to respect his friends knowledge and offer to dispose of his friends handguns when he reaches 2000 rounds. Be a good friend and only charge a 10$ "disposal" fee.

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SGB said:
2,000 rounds is simply a maintenance point for many auto pistols as in time to replace the recoil spring and start on the next 2,000 rounds ....... your coworker has opticalrectalinversion syndrome.
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"opticalrectalinversion" Oh that is Beautiful how about OpticalRectumitus? or is the the same thing?
 
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