vernsimpson
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Saw this on the Fox News web site. Story of guns being confiscated at airports around the country.
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Rhino
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Nothing new about that. The TSA has been confiscating improperly packed guns since they first existed. Heck, this was happening long before the TSA was even created for that matter. Given that gun ownership and the number of carry licenses/permits have been on a steady rise lately, it makes perfect sense that these confiscations at airports would also rise. TSA even says that.
Some people used to get their guns back in these cases in the past. I don't know if that's still true or not, but it wouldn't really bother me if it wasn't. Any idiot who tries to take a gun on an airplane in their carry-on luggage deserves to be thinned out of the gun carrying herd as far as I'm concerned, or at the very least is deserving of punishment for their stupidity.
Some people used to get their guns back in these cases in the past. I don't know if that's still true or not, but it wouldn't really bother me if it wasn't. Any idiot who tries to take a gun on an airplane in their carry-on luggage deserves to be thinned out of the gun carrying herd as far as I'm concerned, or at the very least is deserving of punishment for their stupidity.
Nightmare45
NRA LIFE MEMBER
Travel all the time with guns, no problem at least 9 trips last year, read the regulations for packing said weapon and go. It is actually easier than travelling without one.
that's all fine and good... but I am certain the vast majority are so used to carrying everywhere, and with no criminal intent, simply go through the process of boarding the aricraft as if nothing is wring..... forgetting they are armed AND that that is a no-no in that time and place. Good friend of mine had his Dad take him to the airport.... Dad waited to see him through TSA checkpoint and off to the boarding area. About halfway through the queue waiting for the machines, my friend realised he still had his carry weapon on his hip. OOOOPOPPOSSSS>.. god job Dad was still there. He broke out of the line, quietly and "naturally", calmly walked over to Dad (also in possession of his Mother May I paperwork) and discretely removed his weapon and holster and passed them to Dad... they lingered there a few minutes so as not to arouse any further suspicion, and Son boarded the plane without further incident. Had Dad not been standing there seeing hij through, he could well have been one of those discovered, gun confiscated, etc etc....
How does anyone forget that they are armed?
What is the point of carrying if you forget that you are carrying?
I can just picture someone getting robbed and shot during the robbery. The ambulance comes and takes the victim to the hospital where the nurse/doctor discovers that the victim is carrying a handgun. To which the victim exclaims "Oh! I forgot I was carrying that."
What is the point of carrying if you forget that you are carrying?
I can just picture someone getting robbed and shot during the robbery. The ambulance comes and takes the victim to the hospital where the nurse/doctor discovers that the victim is carrying a handgun. To which the victim exclaims "Oh! I forgot I was carrying that."
It is not that one might forget they are armed.... but rather, having carried for so long in so many different places, one can fail to make the association between the "normal
" state of being armed, and the specific situation in which one might not be able to be armed.
Myself, living in Washingotn, I rarely go into bars/taverns, etc, but to carry in any place where one must be 21 to enter or remain, is a violation of our gun laws. Without commenting on whether that is "right", I will say that, at times, with friends who suddeny take a wild hair to go sit inside such a place, I have forgotten until already inside that I oughtn't be whilst armed. What complicates this further, our neighbour to the South, Oregon, allows carry in bars and alcohol serving food establishments (though the armed person may not consume whilst inside). Spending a fair bit of time with friends in the Portland/Vancouver area, ,some of which might enter such a place, I have to be extra vigilant to remember first, when in Washington I mayn't go in there armed, and second, when in Oregon I may, and third, to remember to remember, travelling with the same crowd, WHICH side the river I happen to find myself just then. When what is natural and normal suddenly upon a small change if cursmstances, becomes prohitbited, one can be tripped up. Thus far, I've never been caught the wrong side the line except by my own sudden awareness. Fact is, the deciding factor for me to get my Oregon Mother May I paperwork done was just that.. having driven over two hours, armed, and driving actoss that bridge into Oregon (a thing I've done perhaps a few hundred times) I suddenly realised I was, if caught, a felon...... . I discretely left the freeway and parked in an area arousing no suspicion, and disarmed myself. I learned that day the requirements, and performed the requisite obligations in acouple of weeks and received my Mother May Card two weeks on.
Now, in sharp contrast, travelling into California I NEVER forget... it is deeply impressed upon my mind that that place is DIFFERENT, and I always find a place just north of the bundary and switch to Reichmode. As soon as I pass the marker northbound, I change back into "relatively free' mode.
" state of being armed, and the specific situation in which one might not be able to be armed.
Myself, living in Washingotn, I rarely go into bars/taverns, etc, but to carry in any place where one must be 21 to enter or remain, is a violation of our gun laws. Without commenting on whether that is "right", I will say that, at times, with friends who suddeny take a wild hair to go sit inside such a place, I have forgotten until already inside that I oughtn't be whilst armed. What complicates this further, our neighbour to the South, Oregon, allows carry in bars and alcohol serving food establishments (though the armed person may not consume whilst inside). Spending a fair bit of time with friends in the Portland/Vancouver area, ,some of which might enter such a place, I have to be extra vigilant to remember first, when in Washington I mayn't go in there armed, and second, when in Oregon I may, and third, to remember to remember, travelling with the same crowd, WHICH side the river I happen to find myself just then. When what is natural and normal suddenly upon a small change if cursmstances, becomes prohitbited, one can be tripped up. Thus far, I've never been caught the wrong side the line except by my own sudden awareness. Fact is, the deciding factor for me to get my Oregon Mother May I paperwork done was just that.. having driven over two hours, armed, and driving actoss that bridge into Oregon (a thing I've done perhaps a few hundred times) I suddenly realised I was, if caught, a felon...... . I discretely left the freeway and parked in an area arousing no suspicion, and disarmed myself. I learned that day the requirements, and performed the requisite obligations in acouple of weeks and received my Mother May Card two weeks on.
Now, in sharp contrast, travelling into California I NEVER forget... it is deeply impressed upon my mind that that place is DIFFERENT, and I always find a place just north of the bundary and switch to Reichmode. As soon as I pass the marker northbound, I change back into "relatively free' mode.
BluesStringer
Les Brers
It's probably a similar phenomenon to how someone takes an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, and then passes or enforces laws which infringe on that which shall not be infringed. The citizen shouldn't have to worry about crossing some imaginary line where his rights are in force on one side, and infringed upon on the other.
Right, right? Likewise, what is the point of taking an oath if you're not going to honor it?
Blues
no, ythe article says they caled local LEO.. which, in some places, makes it even worse... because, say, in Illinois, New Jersey for sure if you don't have that Mother May I paper to OWN a firearm (which non-residetns cannot get by any means), and are found in possession, you are now a felon. NYC, same thing,... they arrest some 350 innocents per year for "unlawful possession" of that of which the owning and use is guaranteed to us all, and shall not be infringed. TSA are happy exacting payback for the imagined crime of possession of a guaranteed item.
Nightmare45
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If you forget you are carrying you should not be carrying.
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