Gun Shows Before Black Tuesday


Bohemian

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Your best chance of having what you want in hand before black Tuesday January 20th, 2009 is to BUY IT NOW...

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The Las Vegas Gun Show

GunBroker.com Online Gun Auction

Please do post other links and sources for sites, shows and stores that have bulk ammo, any semi-auto firearms, ak's, ar's, etc... in stock, on hand...

don't buy into the buy now and wait for it to come in next year, cause its likely not going to happen and you will be sorry if somebody sold you that bill of goods...
and you are left defenseless...
 

NDS

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Your best chance of having what you want in hand before black Tuesday January 20th, 2009 is to BUY IT NOW...

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The Las Vegas Gun Show

GunBroker.com Online Gun Auction

Please do post other links and sources for sites, shows and stores that have bulk ammo, any semi-auto firearms, ak's, ar's, etc... in stock, on hand...

don't buy into the buy now and wait for it to come in next year, cause its likely not going to happen and you will be sorry if somebody sold you that bill of goods...
and you are left defenseless...

Everyone I've talked to in CA, NV, AZ, and UT have said the tables are pretty empty and prices are very high while sellers won't negotiate. I'll admit I blew it on this one; I never thought people would start panic buying before Congress actually passed a bill out of committee to the floor of the House or Senate.
 

tattedupboy

Thank God I'm alive!
I ama man of limited means and as such, probably won't be able to purchase a firearm until after Obama takes office (if I'm still able to do so, that is.). Sorry to disappoint you guys :smile:
 

gdcleanfun

Banned
gearing up for the ruckus myself...

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toreskha

Titles are un-American.
...before Congress actually passed a bill out of committee to the floor of the House or Senate.
Let them go for it. Legislate away before there's any Obama judicial appointments, it will get challenged immediately, SCOTUS will smack it down and we'll have ourselves Heller II. It would be another huge blow to the Brady Bunch.
 

Bohemian

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Let them go for it. Legislate away before there's any Obama judicial appointments, it will get challenged immediately, SCOTUS will smack it down and we'll have ourselves Heller II. It would be another huge blow to the Brady Bunch.

LOOK at how many years it took Parker-Heller to actually get to SCOTUS...

there will be no Heller II in at least the next 4 years...

AND if the NATIONWIDE GUN-GRABBING MAJORITY RATIFIES THE CONSTITUTION or Gun Ban Obama and company bans by EXECUTIVE ORDER and or LEGISLATIVE ACT then Heller will not be worth be worth the paper it is written on...

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
Ronald Reagan
40th president of US (1911 - 2004)

IF we optimistically, count on SCOTUS or anybody else to save the day after Gun Ban Obama and Company impose something on us for the good of the community...
We are setting ourselves up for the same failure of the NOW DISARMED people of England, Canada, Australia, et.al.

We must take a PROACTIVE approach, not a REACTIVE approach...

if we do nothing, we can only say we did nothing...

We can start by contributing a dollar or more to the last holdout to the 60 Seat Democrat Super Majority in the Senate...
We have already lost the House and no longer have a voice there, and will not have a chance to change things there for two years...
If we loose the seat in Georgia, we will not have a effective voice in the Senate either... basically, what this means is the democrats would be able to pass virtually ANYTHING; Amnesty, Gun Bans, Tax & Spend Programs up the wazoo... UNOPPOSED...
Anybody can contribute...
Saxby Chambliss - US Senator for Georgia - Saxby.org

The National Republican Trust - Political Action Committee
 
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HandsomeStranger

Molōn labe!
Everyone I've talked to in CA, NV, AZ, and UT have said the tables are pretty empty and prices are very high while sellers won't negotiate. I'll admit I blew it on this one; I never thought people would start panic buying before Congress actually passed a bill out of committee to the floor of the House or Senate.

I've been waiting for the two shows coming here in December and wondering about the quantity and quality being offered. Empty tables are what I was afraid of.
 

LVLouisCyphre

Obama is a mack daddy!
What I would like to see is another group AR-15 lower buy before black Tuesday. Anybody want to see if this is doable?
 

Bohemian

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What I would like to see is another group AR-15 lower buy before black Tuesday. Anybody want to see if this is doable?

I am not sure what you mean by this?

ALL major manufacturers are back ordered in excess of 6 months on stripped lowers for AR-15 and AR-10 series, ditto for complete uppers and bolt-carrier groups for the same...

As of 11/26/2008...
Expect to pay $500.00 minimum for a stripped lower if you can find it...
$800.00 minimum for a complete upper less stripped lower...

$1000.00 minimum for a complete rifle new or used in decent condition...

If you can find any of this items for equal or less, don't blink or it will be gone, buy it then and there...

ITS NOT PRICE GOUGING when the supply is nearly exhausted and will not likely be replaced before Gun Ban Obama and Company go to work infringing our second amendment rights...

ITS the biggest going out of business sale in U.S. history...

Going to be a lot of people with egg on their face that BACK ORDERED their AR'S, thinking they will get them before Gun Ban Obama and Company get the Dems Barack into the business of gun control...

IF you can not take immediate possession of your item via online auction at gunbroker.com or a gun show, retail storefront etc., you will likely be left empty handed...

Remember the laws of supply and demand from Jr. High?

Or how about trying to buy that newest Game System that comes out 4 weeks before x-mas nearly every year for your kids? And they made 20,000 for a market of 300 million...

IF you want it; you will pay what you can get it for, and be glad you got it at any price before you could not get it at all...

The word of advice for the gun shows, and such is GET THERE EARLY, bring cash and buy it then and there... IF you see two or more AR's and you can afford it; buy them...
You will have one for your wife, girlfriend, son(s), daughter(s), or other family members, friends, neighbors, peers etc...

AND buy all the ammo you can afford, estimate a 1000 rounds per year per weapon for practice...

When the Barack hits the fan...

ITS going to get ugly real quick folks...

If there is no gun shows in your area; fly or drive to one out of state such as the ones here in Las Vegas I previously posted; you can buy it and have it shipped back to your home town; cost is typically $25.00 for hand guns and $40.00 for long guns...

forewarned is forearmed...
 
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LVLouisCyphre

Obama is a mack daddy!
I am not sure what you mean by this?

ALL major manufacturers are back ordered in excess of 6 months on stripped lowers for AR-15 and AR-10 series, ditto for complete uppers and bolt-carrier groups for the same...

As of 11/26/2008...
Expect to pay $500.00 minimum for a stripped lower if you can find it...
$800.00 minimum for a complete upper less stripped lower...

$1000.00 minimum for a complete rifle new or used in decent condition...

If you can find any of this items for equal or less, don't blink or it will be gone, buy it then and there...

ITS NOT PRICE GOUGING when the supply is nearly exhausted and will not likely be replaced before Gun Ban Obama and Company go to work infringing our second amendment rights...

ITS the biggest going out of business sale in U.S. history...

Going to be a lot of people with egg on their face that BACK ORDERED their AR'S, thinking they will get them before Gun Ban Obama and Company get the Dems Barack into the business of gun control...

IF you can not take immediate possession of your item via online auction at gunbroker.com or a gun show, retail storefront etc., you will likely be left empty handed...

Remember the laws of supply and demand from Jr. High?

Or how about trying to buy that newest Game System that comes out 4 weeks before x-mas nearly every year for your kids? And they made 20,000 for a market of 300 million...

IF you want it; you will pay what you can get it for, and be glad you got it at any price before you could not get it at all...

The word of advice for the gun shows, and such is GET THERE EARLY, bring cash and buy it then and there... IF you see two or more AR's and you can afford it; buy them...
You will have one for your wife, girlfriend, son(s), daughter(s), or other family members, friends, neighbors, peers etc...

AND buy all the ammo you can afford, estimate a 1000 rounds per year per weapon for practice...

When the Barack hits the fan...

ITS going to get ugly real quick folks...

If there is no gun shows in your area; fly or drive to one out of state such as the ones here in Las Vegas I previously posted; you can buy it and have it shipped back to your home town; cost is typically $25.00 for hand guns and $40.00 for long guns...

forewarned is forearmed...
Guess buying my S&W M&P15R was a good idea. I'm not stuck on the back order list as I have a UPS tracking number for it being shipped to my friendly neighborhood FFL. It's scheduled to arrive this Tuesday. I should be able to pick it up then or the day after. Yes, I remember basic supply and demand. However I would think that some of the manufacturers would have stepped up production in anticipation of the Obamanation of an election.

Firearms are not just flying off the shelves. Reloading equipment is too. Buy reloadable ammunition and components if possible. I'm at somewhat of a disadvantage as 5.45.x39mm is not available with boxer primed brass cases yet in the US. There appears to be a brass source for it though.
 

DarrellM5

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I picked up a Sig 556 SWAT on gunbroker. It's supposed to arrive today.:biggrin:
I paid $1700 factoring in the shipping. I could turn around right now and sell it for $2100-2200 easily. I won't, because I've been wanting it for a long time, but I could.

I also agree that what we're seeing is not price gouging, but free enterprise (supply & demand) working like it always has. An item is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, kind of like stocks.
 

tattedupboy

Thank God I'm alive!
I picked up a Sig 556 SWAT on gunbroker. It's supposed to arrive today.:biggrin:
I paid $1700 factoring in the shipping. I could turn around right now and sell it for $2100-2200 easily. I won't, because I've been wanting it for a long time, but I could.

I also agree that what we're seeing is not price gouging, but free enterprise (supply & demand) working like it always has. An item is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, kind of like stocks.

Bingo. And when something happens (in this case, the election of Obama) that people believe has the potential to disrupt the supply, they run out and buy it in bigger numbers. And because manufacturers typically aren't building at any faster a rater than before, supply can't keep up with demand, so prices go up.
 

toreskha

Titles are un-American.
This is an arms bubble and it's not sustainable over the long run. Just as with mortgages and oil, saturation will kick in after the market adjusts and/or supply is overfilled. Then prices will plunge, and things will be cheap again. People will have lowers sitting around that they paid $500 for, and are worth less than $200.

Obama isn't stupid; he probably wouldn't try an AWB early on, knowing that it would probably get smashed. He's got a good shot at a second term, so he'll play his gun cards close for right now.

LOOK at how many years it took Parker-Heller to actually get to SCOTUS...

there will be no Heller II in at least the next 4 years...

AND if the NATIONWIDE GUN-GRABBING MAJORITY RATIFIES THE CONSTITUTION or Gun Ban Obama and company bans by EXECUTIVE ORDER and or LEGISLATIVE ACT then Heller will not be worth be worth the paper it is written on...
Our government is not going to cease to function just because some unconstitutional laws are passed. Gun bans by executive order or an overeager Congress might work for the Brady Bunch in the short term, but on the long term balance it wouldn't be effective, and they know it. They want to pass these laws in a way that will be durable.

What we need to spend the next few years doing is to set down a lot of legal framework and educating the public about how assault rifles are perfectly legitimate firearms for a responsible person to own, and increasing the size of firearms-related special interest groups (NRA, GOA, JPFO, etc). When any attacks do come, they can be easily swatted aside by people who already know the truth.
 

Bohemian

New member
All major firearms manufacturers have STOPPED making LOWER RECEIVERS indefinitely... (the part that gets tracked via NICS, and electronically indexed to your front door, drivers license, social security number...)
They likely will stop all production of core functionality AR/AK related parts by June 2009, not wanting to be left with warehouses of stock that they can not sell in the foreseeable future...

Obama: “...I am
consistently on record and will
continue to be on record as opposing
concealed carry.”
Chicago Tribune, April 27, 2004

"My first priority will be to reinstate the assault weapons ban PERMANENTLY as soon as I take office. Within 90 days, we will go back after kitchen table dealers, and work to end the gun show and internet sales loopholes. In the first year, I intend to work with Congress on a national no carry law, 1 gun a month purchase limits, and bans on all semi-automatic guns."
—Barack Obama, VPC Fund Raiser, 2007


Regarding the AWB...
The NRA has prevented that legislation from getting through congress for the last 8 years, as President, I intended to make it happen...

—Barack Obama, Democratic Primary Debate, 2007

Go ahead and keep thinking it can not, will not happen here...
And you will be welcome to join the now disarmed people of Canada, England and Australia, et.al. in stating we should have done more... we took it for granted, that it would never happen here, we failed to be PROACTIVE...
now that the legislation has been passed it is TOO LATE...

"I fear that the liberties of our country will be buried
in the tomb of a great nation." ~~CSA Gen. Robert E. Lee

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
Ronald Reagan
40th president of US (1911 - 2004)

If we do nothing, we can only say we did nothing... George Washington, to his men when apparently facing an inevitable defeat at the hands of the British, that never came to fruition...
 
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Bohemian

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Record Sales at Dulles Gun Show... many sold everything they had before the doors even opened...

...like several other gun dealers, hoped to find a supplier online who still had "military style" rifles available.
But none of the gun manufacturers appeared to have a single "AR-15," a semi-automatic rifle...

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