gun shop carry

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It seems everyday im learning some dumb law or dumb butt making up a law and says it is truth. When i first got in carrying I went by mackey gun shop in jamesville nc. i noticed a sign that said all guns must be unloaded and checked in when entering ( something of that sort). Which i just thought is was the shop rules and their right to say so. As i had conversations with several of the employees there one stuck in my head. in this conversation talking about carrying he said only the employees of this shop can carry in here. i remember asking why. his answer was a little confusing. he said in around about way that it was federal law for ffl dealers. but i carry in walmart and they have a ffls. can someone help me out. was he full of bull malarky?
 
It is NOT federal law at FFL shops...I worked at a range that also did sales in VA and there was no such rule...also a FFL gunshop in petersburg tn that allowed CC if the person had a valid permit...and my local shop in Findlay Ohio also has sign posted that valid CCW permit holders may carry on the premises!
 
There is no federal law affecting FFL's, their premises and CC or open carry. There may be a state law. Here in Washington there is an exemption that allows licensed dealers to carry in the course of doing business, but, nothing that affects the individual rights while on premises.
 
Unless you are CC with your firearm, is it really so wrong to preclude anyone else coming into a gunshop with a loaded weapon in their hands or just plain OC in a non-OC state? Too many instances, in my opinion, of irresponsible firearm handling and in a gunshop, where, by definition, firearm handling is the norm, it just seems that it is a prudent and safe decision by a gunshop. In the shop I go to in SC the rule is as I have stated--unless you are CC no loaded firearms allowed.
 
I am in Iowa, and run a gunsmithing business from my home. My home is within 1000 yards of a school, and as such I can CC, however customers MUST leave their firearms unloaded ammo separated in their vehicles. Don't know if this gun shop in NC is within 1000 yards of a school, but that would explain it.
 
Mike Roundtree said:
I am in Iowa, and run a gunsmithing business from my home. My home is within 1000 yards of a school, and as such I can CC, however customers MUST leave their firearms unloaded ammo separated in their vehicles. Don't know if this gun shop in NC is within 1000 yards of a school, but that would explain it.
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Please specify and link federal or state code that brought you to this conclusion of the law.
 
Some of the "safety" rules in place at gun shops and indoor gun ranges are so annoying that they make the experience so much more stressful than needed.



At the range all they really need is "treat each gun as if it's loaded" and only point the gun downrange, and don't cross the firing line.


At a gun shop. keep the gun in the holster if loaded. If bringing a gun in for servivce, sale or repair, bring it unloaded and cased to avoid confusion.

Everything else should be common sense
 
Mike Roundtree said:
I am in Iowa, and run a gunsmithing business from my home. My home is within 1000 yards of a school, and as such I can CC, however customers MUST leave their firearms unloaded ammo separated in their vehicles. Don't know if this gun shop in NC is within 1000 yards of a school, but that would explain it.
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I don't by this one bit, I can't carry within a 100 hundred yards of a school. 1000 yards is ridiculous, I don't by it without state/city law.
 
The lawmakers need to get this crap straight. They make us pay for a ccw class, plus the application fee. For what???
If an American citizen is following the laws and is certified, then the law should back up ccwp holders. These signs posted
everywhere should say, No Guns Allowed Unless You Have Your CCWP!
 
Mike Roundtree said:
I am in Iowa, and run a gunsmithing business from my home. My home is within 1000 yards of a school, and as such I can CC, however customers MUST leave their firearms unloaded ammo separated in their vehicles. Don't know if this gun shop in NC is within 1000 yards of a school, but that would explain it.
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The Gun Free School Zone Act sets the distance at 1000 FEET from school property. As to your customers, if they have an Iowa carry permit, they're free to carry however they choose. And how you choose to have them bring the weapons into your business.
 
I've gone into gun shops in permit-only-carry Portland, OR on numerous occasions. Only had reason to remove my concealed weapon twice. Both times, I made sure to ask permission to draw the weapon before getting my hand near it or exposing it. Both times was calmly told okay. Both times, I made sure to remove the magazine while still holstered, and rack the slide during removal to eject the +1 before my finger could even get to the trigger.

(Both times were to test new holsters.)
 
I think it is a little insulting for gun stores to sell guns to people but not allow them to carry since they believe they are too stupid to know how to handle them...
 
jg1967 said:
I think it is a little insulting for gun stores to sell guns to people but not allow them to carry since they believe they are too stupid to know how to handle them...
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Hey jg: You use the word "they" when referring to people. It is the few and not the many who are "too stupid" that are their concern and they are out there. Ya know--"the rotten apple spoils the bunch". It is bad enough when you are on the shooting range in a shop and see some of the stupid and dangerous activities that go on at times---why there are even holes in the walls that divide the range cubicles caused by, of all people, LEOs. My gunshop allows CC to carry loaded in the store, which makes some sense since it is at least legal and has an element of knowledgeable responsibility attached to it. Bottom line still is--- if your shop does not permit, go elsewhere. Probably get a better deal on the internet anyway if your shop is not to your liking.
 
sdprof said:
The Gun Free School Zone Act sets the distance at 1000 FEET from school property. As to your customers, if they have an Iowa carry permit, they're free to carry however they choose. And how you choose to have them bring the weapons into your business.
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Exactly. Feet, not yards. One can also drive down the street next to a school all day long. Just stay off school grounds and you will be fine.
 
Gun Shops have a lot to worry about. Insurance is one of them. Finding an Insurance Company to cover you is another.
People go to gun shops to buy guns, ammo, holsters, etc.
I have seen many people putting their guns in holsters etc. I wonder if the guy and the weapon is safe.
When you are shooting on a range you leave you weapon unloaded and with an open chamber or breech visible to others etc before you go down range.
Gun Shows have the same signs don't they?
My Gun Club has a Sign. Non-members are not allowed on the range unless you are with a member as a guest. Why? Insurance Company wanted it.
My point is the Gun shop is not anti 2a but their Insurance Company may be.
 
I have no problem with a person or business having their rules. I think they have a right to have their rules . Just thought it weird to say that.
 
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