Gun owner unarmed, unwelcome in Maryland

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Jackson: Gun owner unarmed, unwelcome in Maryland

By Tom Jackson | Tribune Staff

HUDSON – John Filippidis, silver-haired family man, business owner, employer and taxpayer, is also licensed to carry a concealed firearm.

He’d rather he didn’t feel the need, “but things aren’t like they used to be. The break-ins, the burglaries, all the crime. And I carry cash a lot of the time. I’m constantly going to the bank.

“I wanted to be able to defend my family, my household and the ground I’m standing on. But I’m not looking for any trouble.” Filippidis keeps his gun — a palm-sized Kel-Tec .38 semiautomatic, barely larger than a smartphone in a protective case — in one of two places, always: in the right-hand pocket of his jeans, or in the safe at home.

“There are kids in the house,” Filippidis says, “and I don’t think they’d ever bother with it, but I don’t want to take any chances.” He’s not looking for any trouble, after all.

Trouble, in fact, was the last thing on his mind a few weeks back as the Filippidises packed for Christmas and a family wedding in Woodridge, N.J., so he left the pistol locked in the safe. The state of Florida might have codified his Second Amendment rights, but he knew he’d be passing through states where recent U.S. Supreme Court decisions affirming the rights of individuals to keep and bear arms have been met by hostile legislatures and local officials.

“I know the laws and I know the rules,” Filippidis says. There are, after all, ways gun owners can travel legally with firearms through hostile states. “But I just think it’s a better idea to leave it home.”

So there the Filippidises were on New Year’s Eve eve, southbound on Interstate 95 — John; wife Kally (his Gulf High sweetheart); the 17-year-old twins Nasia and Yianni; and 13-year-old Gina in their 2012 Ford Expedition — just barely out of the Fort McHenry Tunnel into Maryland, blissfully unarmed and minding their own business when they noticed they were being bird-dogged by an unmarked patrol car. It flanked them a while, then pulled ahead of them, then fell in behind them.

“Ten minutes he’s behind us,” John says. “We weren’t speeding. In fact, lots of other cars were whizzing past.”

“You know you have a police car behind you, you don’t speed, right?” Kally adds.

Says John, “We keep wondering, is he going to do something?”

Finally the patrol car’s emergency lights come on, and it’s almost a relief. Whatever was going on, they’d be able to get it over with now. The officer — from the Transportation Authority Police, as it turns out, Maryland’s version of the New York-New Jersey Port Authority — strolls up, does the license and registration bit, and returns to his car.

According to Kally and John (but not MTAP, which, pending investigation, could not comment), what happened next went like this:

Ten minutes later he’s back, and he wants John out of the Expedition. Retreating to the space between the SUV and the unmarked car, the officer orders John to hook his thumbs behind his back and spread his feet. “You own a gun,” the officer says. “Where is it?”

“At home in my safe,” John answers.

“Don’t move,” says the officer.

Now he’s at the passenger’s window. “Your husband owns a gun,” he says. “Where is it?”

First Kally says, “I don’t know.” Retelling it later she says, “And that’s all I should have said.” Instead, attempting to be helpful, she added, “Maybe in the glove [box]. Maybe in the console. I’m scared of it. I don’t want to have anything to do with it. I might shoot right through my foot.”

The officer came back to John. “You’re a liar. You’re lying to me. Your family says you have it. Where is the gun? Tell me where it is and we can resolve this right now.”

Of course, John couldn’t show him what didn’t exist, but Kally’s failure to corroborate John’s account, the officer would tell them later, was the probable cause that allowed him to summon backup — three marked cars joined the lineup along the I-95 shoulder — and empty the Expedition of riders, luggage, Christmas gifts, laundry bags; to pat down Kally and Yianni; to explore the engine compartment and probe inside door panels; and to separate and isolate the Filippidises in the back seats of the patrol cars.

Ninety minutes later, or maybe it was two hours — “It felt like forever,” Kally says — no weapon found and their possessions repacked, the episode ended ... with the officer writing out a warning.

“All that time, he’s humiliating me in front of my family, making me feel like a criminal,” John says. “I’ve never been to prison, never declared bankruptcy, I pay my taxes, support my 20 employees’ families; I’ve never been in any kind of trouble.”

Face red, eyes shining, John pounds his knees. “And he wants to put me in jail. He wants to put me in jail. For no reason. He wants to take my wife and children away and put me in jail. In America, how does such a thing happen? ... And after all that, he didn’t even write me a ticket.”

Now, despite having fielded apologies from the officer’s captain as well as from a Maryland Transportation Authority Police internal affairs captain, John is wondering if he shouldn’t just cancel his CCW license.

For a guy who’s not looking for trouble, that’s not an unreasonable conclusion. And it would please fans of gun control by any means. But let’s hope John Filippidis, American family man, taxpayer and good guy, doesn’t cave, because it would be a sad statement about the brittleness of our guarantees — some would call them sacred — under the Constitution.

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That's far more substantive than a mere ambulance. You need a quality attorney for a quality lawsuit, because this case is deserving of it.
And he needs to educate his wife about not talking to cops without benefit of counsel.
 
something is very wrong with this story, how would a cop in MD know that a FLA resident has any kind of firearms permit from FLA?
 
Florida where his is issued does not. How does that go to Maryland, what was the warning for and how does running his license and registration show he owns a gun never mind holds a cwp. Get the pc for the search though shaky but what was he pulled for.

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something is very wrong with this story, how would a cop in MD know that a FLA resident has any kind of firearms permit from FLA?
Some states have CCP's connected to DL's. When they run your license it shows you have a CCP.
Or he was just fishing for a response. They'll do that sometimes. This incident didn't really sound like fishing though. It sounds like they ran his license through Florida and Florida provided his CCW information. Since the I-95 corridor up the east coast from Florida is a major drug trafficking route, the states along that path cooperate in many ways, one of which is freely exchanging license and registration information in a timely manner.
 
something is very wrong with this story, how would a cop in MD know that a FLA resident has any kind of firearms permit from FLA?

Nope they know. Same thing happened to me when I got pulled over in MD. After they ran my plates and license, the cop came back and asked if I was carrying tonight - started giving me crap for not advising him that I was a VA CCW card holder.
 
Nope they know. Same thing happened to me when I got pulled over in MD. After they ran my plates and license, the cop came back and asked if I was carrying tonight - started giving me crap for not advising him that I was a VA CCW card holder.
You aren't required to notify him.
 
There has been a lot of running of drugs up to the northern part of the US from Florida. I know a lot of states are on the alert for any FL plate. Having the family with him actually doesn't help the situation since that is a perfect cover. This could somewhat excuse the 10 minutes of following and obviously running checks on him.

However, when all those checks came up negative (oops, except for the big bad gun... really a Kel tec .380), the cop should have just drove on. But then it's MD of all places. Home of the hammer and anvil crushing our rights. I hope this guy gets himself a good attorney or better yet, HEY NRA, fight this guys case in civil court for him. Show MD what you are supposed to be against.
 
Or he was just fishing for a response. They'll do that sometimes. This incident didn't really sound like fishing though. It sounds like they ran his license through Florida and Florida provided his CCW information. Since the I-95 corridor up the east coast from Florida is a major drug trafficking route, the states along that path cooperate in many ways, one of which is freely exchanging license and registration information in a timely manner.

fla cwfl are not connected to any dmv records, a cop would need to access the DOACS files in order to obtain such records and I can be fairly certain that a MD tunnel cop does not have direct access to that data base
 
Nope they know. Same thing happened to me when I got pulled over in MD. After they ran my plates and license, the cop came back and asked if I was carrying tonight - started giving me crap for not advising him that I was a VA CCW card holder.

VA is NOT fla, where to repeat the cwfl are not part of any dmv records
 
Nope they know. Same thing happened to me when I got pulled over in MD. After they ran my plates and license, the cop came back and asked if I was carrying tonight - started giving me crap for not advising him that I was a VA CCW card holder.
That happened to me in Ohio. I wasn't buying it, didn't back down an inch, and the cop realized I couldn't be bullied and dropped it.
 
Jackson: Gun owner unarmed, unwelcome in Maryland

By Tom Jackson | Tribune Staff

HUDSON – John Filippidis, silver-haired family man, business owner, employer and taxpayer, is also licensed to carry a concealed firearm.

He’d rather he didn’t feel the need, “but things aren’t like they used to be. The break-ins, the burglaries, all the crime. And I carry cash a lot of the time. I’m constantly going to the bank.

“I wanted to be able to defend my family, my household and the ground I’m standing on. But I’m not looking for any trouble.” Filippidis keeps his gun — a palm-sized Kel-Tec .38 semiautomatic, barely larger than a smartphone in a protective case — in one of two places, always: in the right-hand pocket of his jeans, or in the safe at home.

Someone should tell this reporter Kel Tec doesn't sell a .38 caliber weapon. And we wonder why the public is misinformed?
 
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something is very wrong with this story, how would a cop in MD know that a FLA resident has any kind of firearms permit from FLA?

Florida where his is issued does not. How does that go to Maryland, what was the warning for and how does running his license and registration show he owns a gun never mind holds a cwp. Get the pc for the search though shaky but what was he pulled for.

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fla cwfl are not connected to any dmv records, a cop would need to access the DOACS files in order to obtain such records and I can be fairly certain that a MD tunnel cop does not have direct access to that data base

VA is NOT fla, where to repeat the cwfl are not part of any dmv records

I'm definitely not picking on either of you here... but, does NSA spying ring a bell? The authoritarians in our midst are sharing everything with every law enforcement and regulatory agency - any official body, anywhere, in whom you may come in contact is going to know virtually everything about you. Legal or not, rightfully shared or unlawfully acquired, the security/police state will only continue to extend its power and influence.
(If anyone has a police officer buddy you can trust - ask them if you can see the file they receive when they look you up on their monitors. Even now the info is frightening and they're only going to have more in the future)
 

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