Gun Control For Thou, But Not For Thee....

The UN is a foreign gov't and laws like this do make it easier for them to injure our country.


The United Nations is a stateless quasi-NGO. It has no organic military force of its own. It depends on member nations to supply military and other humanitarian support. IMHO, the Girl Scouts are far more formidable than the U.N.


The charge of treason is still a possibility because it is defined as an act that helps a foreign gov't overthrow, make war on, or injure the citizen's country.
Treason is defined in Section 3, Para. 3, of the U.S. Constitution as;


"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."


The courts have ruled that "Levying war", must include the raising of an armed force that actually takes to the field for the purpose of overthrowing the government of the United States, or, "Adhering to their enemies", i.e., giving any aid to an enemy of the United States during a time of war.


A state representative who voted for the SAFE Act is definitely not committing treason.


And he can still be jailed as the charge would be treason. Then lock up the rest of his fellow voters and the Gov on the same charges.


Lock up voters & the Governor of New York? WTF? What banana republic are you from? That's what they do in places like Venezuela. To advocate ARRESTING the voters (assuming you could identify them) who elected the representatives that voted for this bill is WAAAY off base.


...not be charged with treason, though the rest of government that did impose such an Intolerable Act certainly could be, and I really like how you think in that regard!


You need to re-think your legal reasoning...its not TREASON. Look, I DESPISE the SAFE act and want to see it repealed. The way to do that is by supporting the firearms organizations that are challenging it in court, and helping my state representatives that are working to overturn it. We've had a partial victory, the over-turning of the 7 round mag limit. Hopefully, we can get rid of all of it. That's how to do it.
 
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Agro said, “The case is very new. I just got the case a couple of weeks ago and we have ongoing discussions with the DA’s office.”

I predict a plea bargain down to a misdemeanor - which is exactly what the law was before Ferguson lobbied to have the penalty increased to a felony in New York. I wonder why he had to get a new attorney? Did the first one say, "Seriously?!? Isn't this the EXACT situation that you wanted to be a felony?"
 
I predict a plea bargain down to a misdemeanor - which is exactly what the law was before Ferguson lobbied to have the penalty increased to a felony in New York. I wonder why he had to get a new attorney? Did the first one say, "Seriously?!? Isn't this the EXACT situation that you wanted to be a felony?"

I HOPE you are wrong but I fully expect you will be right. The new law is ONLY for us "pee-ons_!!!!
 
The UN is a foreign gov't and laws like this do make it easier for them to injure our country.


The United Nations is a stateless quasi-NGO. It has no organic military force of its own. It depends on member nations to supply military and other humanitarian support. IMHO, the Girl Scouts are far more formidable than the U.N.


The charge of treason is still a possibility because it is defined as an act that helps a foreign gov't overthrow, make war on, or injure the citizen's country.
Treason is defined in Section 3, Para. 3, of the U.S. Constitution as;


"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."


The courts have ruled that "Levying war", must include the raising of an armed force that actually takes to the field for the purpose of overthrowing the government of the United States, or, "Adhering to their enemies", i.e., giving any aid to an enemy of the United States during a time of war.


A state representative who voted for the SAFE Act is definitely not committing treason.


And he can still be jailed as the charge would be treason. Then lock up the rest of his fellow voters and the Gov on the same charges.


Lock up voters & the Governor of New York? WTF? What banana republic are you from? That's what they do in places like Venezuela. To advocate ARRESTING the voters (assuming you could identify them) who elected the representatives that voted for this bill is WAAAY off base.


...not be charged with treason, though the rest of government that did impose such an Intolerable Act certainly could be, and I really like how you think in that regard!


You need to re-think your legal reasoning...its not TREASON. Look, I DESPISE the SAFE act and want to see it repealed. The way to do that is by supporting the firearms organizations that are challenging it in court, and helping my state representatives that are working to overturn it. We've had a partial victory, the over-turning of the 7 round mag limit. Hopefully, we can get rid of all of it. That's how to do it.
If you break up my statements then they will fail to make sense. By voters, that was meant, by members of the legislative branch in NY that voted for the SAFE Act. Not all voters of NY. The voters of NY had no say in the passage of this act. And like many others here, at the time I thought that he was one of the legislative branch.

Giving aid to our enemies in time of war still is currently covered as Congress did give the President the right to go to war after 9/11. It is called the War on terror for a reason. The definition of who wages war changed many years ago as even if a country does not declare war on the US, acts by citizens of a country acting in concert with each other can have the same results. A country that covertly supports them is just as much guilty as one that does it out in the open with the military of that country. Acting like the gov and legislature did with this act, gave aid and comfort to those enemies. Each time a law or regulation weakens the Constitution or the Amendments, that does give aid to an enemy. They will bide their time and when they think that we cannot fight back, attack us.

Yes, you got a partial victory in the 7 round rule. But you still have the mag size part that is illegal. A law can never make something that was purchased legally illegal to own. And that is where the "dispose of your >10 round mags" violates the US Constitution.
 
"BUFFALO, N.Y. (WIVB) – The man accused of causing a major security scare at a Buffalo school appeared in court Thursday. This is the latest chapter in a case that started with a school in lockdown and a neighborhood swarmed by police.

Dwayne Ferguson waived his right to a felony hearing in Buffalo City Court Thursday morning. Now, his case is being transferred to Erie County Court.

Police say Ferguson is responsible for a major scare that took place on February 6th at Harvey Austin Elementary School. The president of the local MAD DADS chapter, an organization against violence and drugs, was found carrying a handgun inside the school. The scare prompted a lockdown.

Ferguson originally faced a number of charges including one count of criminal possession of a weapon on school grounds and criminal possession of a weapon in the second degree. Now he’s only facing one count.

Erie County Assistant District Attorney Michael Flaherty said, “He was originally charged with possession of weapon in the second degree. That charge has not been held for the grand jury because Mr. Ferguson has a permit. He had a lawful permit for the weapon.”

News 4 asked Ferguson if he wanted to comment. He declined.

Flaherty says this case could be resolved before it’s presented to the grand jury. But Flaherty says it’s too early to know if any charges will be dismissed."

How do you like that...he's headed for a Grand Jury!..... for what? Jury Nullification? He admitted and was found to have a loaded pistol ON SCHOOL GROUNDS!!!! A clear violation of the Safe Act. What purpose does a Grand Jury serve except for "Jury Nullification".

Sounds like the politicos have gotten to the D.A.
 
Very few felonies are prosecuted by a felony hearing - prosecutors prefer a grand jury. if the defendant won't waive the felony hearing, then the DA takes the matter to a grand jury.

Same for the putz who was convicted of trying to sell illegally configured firearms in New York.

Alos - WGRZ claimed that Ferguson said he forgot to remove his gun "after doing a street patrol."

Great, another guniot out playing Wyatt Earp.
 
Not meant for you, Blues...

Well, first off... he seems to have gotten what he deserved (being a hypocritical scumbag!). Second, I am a believer that it shouldn't be illegal to carry in public schools... being as that criminals and other such crazy people do it anyway so what's the phucking point of outlawing it for the good, honest people who want to defend children and themselves!? If criminals are ignoring the law anyway... it AIN'T doing any good, is it!? Well, except for preventing law-abiding people from proper defense! Damn it all!

Now, to the bold text, you're absolutely right Blues! Public "servant" my @ss! He's a thug who's out for "his" and is willing to step on the People, make them less powerful, less effective and less capable of taking care of themselves. I hope this douche bag gets a stiff sentence from the very law he supported!




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Why have speed limits since some people do it anyways? Why have any laws since some people break them?

When people do obey the speed limits - and there are people who do - it generally contributes to everyone's safety. When people do obey gun control laws - nobody is made safer, the only purpose served is to create more victims that can't fight back against the criminals.
 
Just saw an article that said he got 100 hours of community service. On one hand, he's politically connected to the POS Governor and the Dem party...and as a "supporter" of this POS law, was afforded preferential treatment. Will others of us (conservative opponents of the Emperor...uh...Governor and his unconstitutional laws) be afforded the same leniency? Probably NOT!!!

On the other hand, precedent has been set.
 

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