guards and no gun

[zacklmpd]

I worked for a security company here in Kentucky we were not allowed to carry a firearm nor any type of defense weapon not even a tool knife I worked at a few shady places where I was confronted by several people and was left only to call it in and wait for my un armed as well "supervisor" now currently on a sheriffs department I sit and think of how dangerous it could of been

 

[The_Outlaw]

I worked for a security company here in Kentucky we were not allowed to carry a firearm nor any type of defense weapon not even a tool knife I worked at a few shady places where I was confronted by several people and was left only to call it in and wait for my un armed as well "supervisor" now currently on a sheriffs department I sit and think of how dangerous it could of been

I have worked unarmed security before (Loss Prevention).
It's one of the worst jobs I have ever had and very dangerous.
Armed is 'definately' the best way to go if you have to work in the security industry.
~stay safe~

 

[SGB]

Businesses only want the illusion of security. The security personnel like all other employees are expendable.

 

[The_Outlaw]

Businesses only want the illusion of security. The security personnel like all other employees are expendable.

I agree, that's why it's best to worked 'armed' as opposed to being unarmed and defenseless.
Job's come and go, but you only have one life.

 

[Unfettered Might]

A friend of mine who runs a security business offered me side work on weekends once and his guys are armed on the job. They do gigs at clubs, bars, etc. I turned him down, I wouldn't do that type of work even with a gun.

 

[ricardo900]

Yep! 100% correct, they care more about their liability and their public perception than the value of a guard's safety. Plus it's a cheaper to put an unarmed guard than an armed one. I would only only go armed. Don't forget, you are dealing with the "public" in uniform, not a safe thing.

 

[Phillip Gain]

If you want to get a sense of just how much companies value security...look at the crappy wages being paid to most security guards - armed OR unarmed. For that tiny bit of money, they'll be lucky to get a reliable "observe and report" out of me. More like "Conceal self and preserve skin."

 

[stingray2100]

Phillip I agree with you .. you just left out one thing.

and to quote you "Conceal self and preserve skin."

you forgot the other part "fill the report"

 

[Tucker's Mom]

A friend of mine who runs a security business offered me side work on weekends once and his guys are armed on the job. They do gigs at clubs, bars, etc. I turned him down, I wouldn't do that type of work even with a gun.

Idon't blame you...a friend of mine when he was looking for a job applied in a security firm. In the application was a question : Would you be willing to risk your life for our firm? or something to that effect... He did not have to think that one out -- he quickly put down the application form and left.

OOpppppsssssss!! have to add -- Welcome to this forum! I mean this to the original poster.

 

[OpenCarryYes]

I worked as an armed guard at nuke plant for $7.10/hour. Lol, only lasted 7 months until it got really cold and the threats started coming from the anti-nuke crowd.

 

[Oram Security Consultants]

I have been in the security industry now for almost 19 years. Ive been everything from an unarmed security officer, to armed security up to Branch Manager and Director Of Security for a hedge Fund. A couple of points, first about the liability. That is a two way street. Both the security company as well as the client worry about it. America is a sue happy country. Liability will always be an issue. Now for the pay rates. You get what you pay for. In the past, security companies would work at about 65% Direct Labor. For every dollar they got paid, 65 cents went in the guards pocket. Rest to the company to pay all that fun stuff like taxes, insurance, uniforms, overtime, training etc. Right now, many companies are running in the 70-78% DL.

The Hedge Fund security team I ran had over 60 Officers, pay rates in the $20's and armed. Great crew. As a Branch Manager we had accounts were officers were paid 9.00 an hour to sit in a booth at a beach and check window stickers and conduct patrols. Pay was not good, but my 4 officers were coming off unemployment to take the work. The town could not pay more due to their budget.

Most security positions are just there to be a visual deterrent and to be a live "911" call.

 

[GaPatriot]

Old saying;"An unarmed security guard,is like having a guard dog with no teeth".