Got pulled over by leo and a great encounter

[BOUNTY HUNTER]

:big_boss: Today i was driving down a main street here in Utah when i made a right hand turn and forgot my turn signal and was stopped by the police, after i had stopped and parked and turned off my car the cop approached the driver side and requested my license insurance and car registration.

Before i gave him any of those documents i advised him that i am a ccw holder and that i was armed with my 45 taurus holstered at 4:30 and i asked him how did he want me to proceed, while the whole time having my hands on the stering wheel, the cop said to retrieve my license and permit i gave him both of them he looked at them and said that he stopped me for no signal after that he handed me back my permit and license told me thank you for advising him of my permit and weapon and its location didnt even look at the other paperwork he had asked for and told me to have a nice day and i pulled off without getting cited. So that just reassures me that most LEO's are good guys and dont have problems with law abiding citizens with carry permits arming themselves and taking the act of self defense into their own hands.


Are there any others out there with positive LEO encounters I would like to hear about them...

Thanks For Reading My Post..................BOUNTY HUNTER :triniti:

 

[langston69]

:big_boss: Today i was driving down a main street here in Utah when i made a right hand turn and forgot my turn signal and was stopped by the police.... So that just reassures me that most LEO's are good guys and dont have problems with law abiding citizens with carry permits arming themselves

Sounds like an oxymoron to me since you weren't really abiding by the law, hence the reason you got pulled in the first place :sarcastic: Just kidding. Glad it all went well, but did this cop really have no other crimes to solve other than you not using a blinker? That's the part that got me!! This country is full of serious crime and LEO agencies are always screaming "we're understaffed". Well if they weren't pulling people over for not using blinkers perhaps they would have a little more time on their hands. Just a simple observation from a simple guy.

 

[videokrue]

now langston69, let's not be bashing LEOs. Many a time, high speed pursuits and the like were started when an officer spotted a simple violation and decided to pursue. It's a good way to fish out those with something to hide. Also, it's beneficial to be refreshed on the rules of the road, now and again. Great LEO didn't do more then run the plates and make sure he owned the car.

 

[Gr8gunz]

now langston69, let's not be bashing LEOs. Many a time, high speed pursuits and the like were started when an officer spotted a simple violation and decided to pursue. It's a good way to fish out those with something to hide. Also, it's beneficial to be refreshed on the rules of the road, now and again. Great LEO didn't do more then run the plates and make sure he owned the car.

Mmmm, not so sure about this. If the LEO had some other reason besides the blinker I would agree that is sufficient cause. If LEOs stopped everyone who didn't blink or rolled through a stop sign there would be pullover on every block. I suspect the LEO had some other suspicion or maybe just a VERY slow day.
Merry Christmas!

 

[Austin]

Thanks for posting this. It seems that there is a lot of people posting LEO bashing and negative LEO experiences, its nice to see the contrary.

I love Law Enforcement, I just dont talk to them.

 

[murdoctx]

Most criminals who have active warrants, some illegal items, or dui get caught because of a simple mistake that gives a LEO the right to stop them and check their IDs. The agencies do not have the funding and manpower required to actively hunt down individuals with warrants.

 

[DCkilla]

Is Utah a "must notify" state? I think not,because nothing said in original post. So, why say anything? He was.probably going to give you a verbal reminder about using turn signals. I've been pulled over for turning right into the far left lane, which many drivers do. Legally a ticket could have been given. For such minuscule infraction, he was just giving a friendly reminder. Thinking that your permit or being open saved you from a ticket is absurd. You're going to run into one of the bad ones one day. They are going to pull your pistol for their safety and run the serial number.

 

[HoJo]

Mmmm, not so sure about this. If the LEO had some other reason besides the blinker I would agree that is sufficient cause. If LEOs stopped everyone who didn't blink or rolled through a stop sign there would be pullover on every block. I suspect the LEO had some other suspicion or maybe just a VERY slow day.
Merry Christmas!

I suspect a slow say. This was in Utah after all. You know what they say, "eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow you may be in Utah".

 

[Bill Cavalieri]

How about we use our turn signals, don't zig zag through traffic cutting people off, don't turn into the far lane or "push" green lights to the point they're red when you go through and all the other things scofflaws do continuously. Then the cops wouldn't have to waste their time pulling us over. Traffic laws apply to everyone not just Democrats. Regardless, if you have a scanner you already know a surprising percentage of the driver's license and plate checks called in from traffic stops yield a want or warrant that earns the driver a trip downtown. If you don't want to attract attention don't break laws.

 

[TRKUCZ]

Armed Citizens Legal Defense December magazine has a similar article about how local officers treat CPL holder with more respect than other citizens....one more perk to hold a CPL.

 

[Treo]

Someone is gonna start this pissing contest, might as well be me.
from the following link

http://www.usacarry.com/utah_concealed_carry_permit_information.html

Informing Law Enforcement of Carry:
You are not required to notify LEO that you are carrying. What they do suggest is that you tell them IF, for any reason, you think the concealed firearm MAY BE DISCOVERED during the encounter.

So, why bother

 

[langston69]

now langston69, let's not be bashing LEOs. Many a time, high speed pursuits and the like were started when an officer spotted a simple violation and decided to pursue. It's a good way to fish out those with something to hide. Also, it's beneficial to be refreshed on the rules of the road, now and again. Great LEO didn't do more then run the plates and make sure he owned the car.

I'm not bashing LEO's, I just think their time could be better utilized in some way other than pulling someone over for not using a blinker. Perhaps they could go to the ghettos and be right in the middle of the crime instead of avoiding it at all cost until the crime takes place. Hey I wouldn't want to do it, but in the same breath I didn't make law enforcement my career choice either.

 

[longslide10]

Sounds like an oxymoron to me since you weren't really abiding by the law, hence the reason you got pulled in the first place :sarcastic: Just kidding. Glad it all went well, but did this cop really have no other crimes to solve other than you not using a blinker? That's the part that got me!! This country is full of serious crime and LEO agencies are always screaming "we're understaffed". Well if they weren't pulling people over for not using blinkers perhaps they would have a little more time on their hands. Just a simple observation from a simple guy.

Today's police are code, statute and revenue enhancement occifers. It's all about making money for the policeman's ball and the courts. Rookies are the worst, they have to prove they can make the money for the dept or they get walkin' papers. It's all Admiralty/Commerce law now.

 

[Deserteagle]

Ill help start the pissing match by pointing out that notifying the officer of your legally carried handgun was a waste of time.

 

[iakobos]

I don't know about other states but here's why it's best practice to notify the officer you are carrying concealed, IF you live in the state of Texas.
(Note: Texas does not require you to notify the officer if you are carrying.)

1. When the officer goes back to his patrol car and runs your driver's license, the computer report will also tell him you have a CHL. So, unless for some unusual reason he doesn't run your license, he is going to find out you have a CHL.
2. My CHL instructor was an off duty policeman. He said that when a CHL holder doesn't tell him they have a CHL, and he has to find out from the computer, it always causes him to wonder, "Why didn't he tell me?" and, "Is he trying to hide something?" All it does is arouse his suspicions whether founded or not.
3. The same instructor said that for ordinary traffic violations he always lets off a CHL holder with only a warning and said that most other cops he knew would do the same.

Since I am not familiar with how other states register CHL holders the above may or may not apply. But if your CHL is connected in the state database to your DL then I would show it when ever I'm pulled over by a LEO.

 

[Riverkilt]

Just read somewhere that the majority of collisions are caused by not signaling.

 

[Treo]

(Note: Texas does not require you to notify the officer if you are carrying.)

Yeah for what it's worth you are dead wrong

Texas Concealed Carry Permit Information

Informing Law Enforcement of Carry:
If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder’s person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder’s driver’s license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder’s handgun license. So basically if the LEO asks for your ID, go ahead and give him both.

If you don't know what you're talking about......... you shouldn't

 

[UATKP]

I don't know about other states but here's why it's best practice to notify the officer you are carrying concealed, IF you live in the state of Texas.
(Note: Texas does not require you to notify the officer if you are carrying.)

I need to advise you that you need to re-read Texas law, or you may get yourself in trouble. In Texas, you DO have to inform EVERY officer with whom you come into official contact and he asks for ID, if you are carrying a concealed weapon. This means on the street, in your yard, or in your auto... anywhere you make official contact. If you don't inform the officer, you are breaking the law, in Texas.
(You beat me to it, Treo.)

 

[iakobos]

You guys are right and I am wrong with respect to identifying when carrying in Texas. Either I was misinformed by my instructor or misunderstood what he said.

 

[kelcarry]

Thanks for posting this. It seems that there is a lot of people posting LEO bashing and negative LEO experiences, its nice to see the contrary.

I love Law Enforcement, I just dont talk to them.

Right on!! I really believe this is more about the squeeky wheel getting the grease or the old new adage "if it bleeds it leads". The good LEOs never get the press and just do their difficult and dangerous jobs. When that one bad guy or bad decision is made, everyone forgets the hundreds if not thousands of LEOs and decisions they make that are fair and considerate.