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liquidr1

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Hey guys

Im new to concealed carry. Taking my class on august 7th.

My question is what is a good .40 cal round that has good stopping ability and expands well enough but wont go through the bad guy and into the next apartment. I have a glock 27.


any advice is much apreciated.
 
.40 Smith & Wesson, Glaser Blue Safety Slug , 115 Grain Pre Fragmented Jacketed Bullet, 6 Pack.

The Glaser Safety Slug was designed for close quarter security. The Safety Slug bullet minimizes the likelihood that there will be over penetration as well as reducing the possibility of a ricochet on hard surfaces while still causing significant soft tissue destruction. This makes it a very good choice for personal protection whether in the home or working security in close quarters.

The Blue Safety Slug contains #12 bird shot. It produces immediate energy dispersal, creating abrupt stopping power. It is optimally designed for warmer climates and lighter clothing.
 
I do not believe that any particular bullet can overcome a shooter's ability to put a round on target. Become proficient at putting a round on target in a defensive situation, THEN worry about which round to use.

Shot placement first...

Then, which bullet

just my opinion
 
Course I live in a house but it faces the street here and there are a lot of cars that go by. My immediate focus is to end the threat. Sure you are supposed to know what is beyond your target. That being said, my first focus is to end the threat. The chances of you hitting a neighbor in the next apartment at the exact time you fire to end a threat is small but it is real. Just part of the responsibility of being a legal gun owner. Just keep training and if it ever happens you will do what you need to do.
 
I would say any good Self Defense "Fragmentation" bullet should do well.. I understand your concern. Most modern Apartments are built like cracker boxes and IF you should miss, you don't want to kill your neighbors..
Take the point to heart that practice and accurate shooting should be #1 on your list, but a bullet that won't go through 3 apartments IF you should miss should be a considerations
(although I'm sure I'll take heat for the statement)..
 
HootmonSccy said:
even though I'm sure I'll take heat for the statement)..
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Sir, no heat from me at all....... bullet type for a given situatiion is important, but to me, putting bullet selection before shooting proficiency, is like a teenager telling mom and dad what car he wants before he learns to drive.
 
The good news is...

Islander said:
Didn't do too well in the Box O'Truth test:

The Box O' Truth #23 - ExtremeShock™ Ammo and the Box O' Truth - Page 1

Glaser Blue Safety Slug tests better. About the same cost.

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One water jug and stop. all energy expended on the soft tissue. The bad news is expensive, over penetrates if you miss, and possibly harder on your bore than copper and lead. The other posters are quite correct that shot placement is the key to success. The bottom line is be prepared to defend yourself no matter what you carry.
 
I realize you cannot carry one around but this topic is apartment/house living, and I see your testing handgun ammo, but something you all may want to consider, a 12 gauge pump shotgun, with the shortest (legal) barrel possable, loaded with #4 buckshot, 10 ft away the pellets barely made it thru 2 sheets of drywall, and one round gives you 25 or 30 projectiles, so shot placement is not as critical, thats if the BG is still around after he hears the gun rack in a round, my wife and I went to our local range a few months back and I brought the shot gun, after shooting the target with our usual stuff, (handguns) well over 100 rds, the target was full of holes but still there intact hanging on the rack, I hit it with 5 rounds with the shotgun what was left of the target was confetti floating in the air, this was all at 8 or 9 yds away
 
I'd suggest you pattern the shotgun. At 10 feet, you might be surprised at how small the pattern is. At 8 or 9 yards....24 or 27 feet is a different story. In an apartment, you may not be able to get a 25 foot shot to allow the pellets to spread...

Just sayin'
 
liquidr1 said:
Hey guys

Im new to concealed carry. Taking my class on august 7th.

My question is what is a good .40 cal round that has good stopping ability and expands well enough but wont go through the bad guy and into the next apartment. I have a glock 27.


any advice is much apreciated.
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I'm sorry my manners suck, welcome and good luck with your permit class, something you may want to do if you plan on useing your 27 in your class qualifying, see if you can find some ammo thats not to strong, and practice with it, I also have a G-27 and its a great weapon, but it does have strong muzzel flip, not to bad just something to get used to
 
Rocketgeezer said:
I realize you cannot carry one around but this topic is apartment/house living, and I see your testing handgun ammo, but something you all may want to consider, a 12 gauge pump shotgun, with the shortest (legal) barrel possable, loaded with #4 buckshot, 10 ft away the pellets barely made it thru 2 sheets of drywall, and one round gives you 25 or 30 projectiles, so shot placement is not as critical, thats if the BG is still around after he hears the gun rack in a round, my wife and I went to our local range a few months back and I brought the shot gun, after shooting the target with our usual stuff, (handguns) well over 100 rds, the target was full of holes but still there intact hanging on the rack, I hit it with 5 rounds with the shotgun what was left of the target was confetti floating in the air, this was all at 8 or 9 yds away
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+1 Shotguns are always an excellent choice for apartment living. I also like a 22 revolver with snake shot in it.
 
Jay said:
I'd suggest you pattern the shotgun. At 10 feet, you might be surprised at how small the pattern is. At 8 or 9 yards....24 or 27 feet is a different story. In an apartment, you may not be able to get a 25 foot shot to allow the pellets to spread...

Just sayin'
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Its funny you mention that because I have tested it some, with 00 or 000 buck, at the 3 yd line the pattern was maybe softball size, at 10 yds it stayed in a pie plate at 15 yds it pretty much filled the torso size target full of holes, but the smaller #4 spread a bunch sooner, now this is with a 18 in barrel gun, I was useing Wally World ammo, and the testing was not real sientific, did not test the other shotguns as they were to long to consider for use in the home, I know about opinions LOL, but I think a shotgun make a better home defence weapon than a pistol
 
Rocketgeezer said:
I'm sorry my manners suck, welcome and good luck with your permit class, something you may want to do if you plan on useing your 27 in your class qualifying, see if you can find some ammo thats not to strong, and practice with it, I also have a G-27 and its a great weapon, but it does have strong muzzel flip, not to bad just something to get used to
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i already qualified last week for the class with it. Im good with it. Hit all 50 rounds in the center.
 
liquidr1 said:
after doing some research i think im going to try somd Hornady Critical Defense .40. Lots of good reviews on it.
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Good job on the qaulifying, and I have some Hornady CD ammo, shoots great but fairly pricey, don't shoot it much, any good name hollow point will make a fair self defence ammo, but going back to the original post in your apartment keep it loaded with something that will not go thru walls and still be leathal
 
liquidr1 said:
after doing some research i think im going to try somd Hornady Critical Defense .40. Lots of good reviews on it.
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+1 for the Critical Defense...

I load the 165gr .40S&W CD in my compact. They had the best consistency for expansion. I load the 125gr 357Mag CD for the revolver. The 45Auto is still on back order here...:angry:

Another round I load is the Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 Bonded 40S&W 165gr. It did well in expansion testing and the FBI has chosen this round to carry.. I chose the 165gr for lighter recoil and faster velocity from the 3.5" barrel. The PDX1 is designed to penetrate barriers however, so it would not be good for the apartment loading, just for carry...

YouTube - Winchester .40 S&W 180 gr PDX1 Supreme Elite Bonded JHP

Peace...
 
6shootercarry said:
Another round I load is the Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 Bonded 40S&W 165gr. It did well in expansion testing and the FBI has chosen this round to carry.. I chose the 165gr for lighter recoil and faster velocity from the 3.5" barrel. The PDX1 is designed to penetrate barriers however, so it would not be good for the apartment loading, just for carry...


Peace...
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Good video Thanks 6SC...
 
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