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ClearSightTactical

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So, sometimes when reloading from slide lock IE: I just fired and emptied one magazine, I go to reload and sometimes the slide goes forward on its own.

I've been able to replicate this at home using dummy ammo but only if I really hit the magazine hard. I know some firearms were designed to do this, is glock one of them? Similar to the 'HK Slap".

If it is a design feature, how is it supposed to be utilized? If its not - what's the problem, i'd assume a new slide stop lever...

I just want to train consistently and "slapping" the magazine in and having the slide close is great, but only if I can do it 95% of the time....

If it matters- Glock 3rd gen 17
 
Does it do this with every mag you have? I seem to recall I had that same problem with my G27 but it would only do this with one mag. I have replaced the mag and the problem went away. It was one of the original mags that came with the pistol. Hope this helps.
 
I had my 3rd generation G 19 do this a few times. Upon close examination, there was damage to the follower on the magazine. Upon changing the follower, problem solved. My recommendation would be to check your mags. If you haven't done so already, mark all of your mags so you can tell them apart.



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Thanks for all the suggestions, but I'm leaning towards the possibility that its not an 'issue' but intended to do so.

I think that because it happens on 4 magazines including a brand new never used never opened until now original glock magazine.

It also happens on a Glock 26 on 3 different magazines, and a Glock 19 tested on one mag.

I've made a little video showing what I'm talking about. It was on a cell phone so I didn't have enough time to show it on all 4 magazines. I was using dummy ammo which is incapable of firing for this demo, and was pointed in a safe direction.

NOTE: I was NOT putting my finger on the trigger. I move my finger lower on the frame to have a better grip when pulling the slide back. I guess I need more leverage due to my stubby hands.....

sorry for the bad quality :(

YouTube- Glock loading
 
I have noticed that on my 19, the slide stop lever is much harder to disengage when there is no mag in it. I noticed this while practicing one handed drills. I usually pull the slide back to release the stop, but noticed that when there is a mag in place the slide stop requires MUCH less effort to release. It seems that when a mag is inserted with the slide open, the slide stop moves a slight amount to the side and this affects its engagement, mine has never closed by itself though.
 
ClearSightTactical said:
Thanks for all the suggestions, but I'm leaning towards the possibility that its not an 'issue' but intended to do so.
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Why would your Glock be different than every other Glock out there?

From the Glock Manual:

LOADING AND FIRING

1. The magazine is filled by each individual round being pushed into the magazine from the front,
with the base of the round being pressed down first against the pressure of the magazine
spring. If using the factory supplied loading support, slip support over the magazine and place
magazine on a solid surface. Hold loading support firmly and place thumb on top of loading
device: Press down loading device against tension of magazine spring and, while keeping
support down, insert a round as far as possible. While pressing round downwards, slide support
upwards (release magazine spring) and the round will slide into its rest. Repeat operation for
subsequent rounds.

2. Introduce or insert the magazine into the magazine shaft until the magazine catch engages fully.

3. Pull back the slide with free hand, and allow it to spring forwards into the final position. The
trigger finger of the shooting hand remains outside the trigger guard. The weapon is now
secured and ready to fire.

4. After the last round has been fired, the slide remains open. Remove the empty magazine from
the weapon by pushing the magazine catch (19). Insert a new magazine and then either push
the slide stop lever (27) downwards (see photo), or pull the slide slightly backwards and allow it
to spring forwards. The weapon is now again secured and ready to fire.
 
I've seen this before on this forum ot the Glock Talk Forum. If you insert the magazing fast and hard the release can in fact release the slide. The only think holding the slide back is friction. Even having some oil on the release can make it more sensative.

Jason
 
Best be careful with them glocks, boy. Some blow up, some accidental discharge, some don't fire. Take my advice and get rid of the gangsta gun and get yourself a 1911.
 
Anthony_I_Am said:
Best be careful with them glocks, boy. Some blow up, some accidental discharge, some don't fire. Take my advice and get rid of the gangsta gun and get yourself a 1911.
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lol I assume you're joking.

I've had a 1911 and I really loved it, other than the fact that I couldn't fire more than 50 rounds without some sort of malfunction. My glock on the other hand with 10k+ rounds has never blown up, never "accidentally" discharged, and has never failed to fire. My fiancee had a stove pipe once while shooting it, but I attributed that to her limp wristing as a new shooter...if 1911's were as reliable as a Glock I would definitely carry one, but for me this G17 does just fine. :-D
 
Oh man, I sure hope that's a joke. There's a reason 1911's have been beloved for almost 100 years. While I'll admit there's a chance that some of them are pieces of junk I will attribute that to the numerous manufacturers out there, not the design itself. I've owned a number of 1911's and have never had any large issue's with any of them. I've never had a misfire with any of my Kimber's I can not attribute to the ammo itself. I have a Colt from 1922 that I would use for concealed carry without any concern of reliability, if it wasn't so bulky (and I didn't have my sweet sweet Kimber's). The 1911 will be here long after the Glock has been forgotten about.

I wouldn't call Glock's unreliable either, there's a reason they're as popular as they are. However with any firearm, or any device that get's exponentially more complicated you're going to have more issues with them. For instance I don't think anyone could fathom uncontrollable acceleration in car's back in the 1960's. Sure cars had issues, but they were by and large much simpler to diagnose and fix.
 
ClearSightTactical said:
So, sometimes when reloading from slide lock IE: I just fired and emptied one magazine, I go to reload and sometimes the slide goes forward on its own.

I've been able to replicate this at home using dummy ammo but only if I really hit the magazine hard. I know some firearms were designed to do this, is glock one of them? Similar to the 'HK Slap".

If it is a design feature, how is it supposed to be utilized? If its not - what's the problem, i'd assume a new slide stop lever...

I just want to train consistently and "slapping" the magazine in and having the slide close is great, but only if I can do it 95% of the time....

If it matters- Glock 3rd gen 17
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My glock 23 has no problem. I was wondering if you or others were wearing the leather holster. It can vanish and wearing on the slide and lock. That causes not locking slide. Hmmmm

Suggestion to wear the retention holster.

Or call the Glock manufacture about this and make it a RECALL.
 
Glock Fan said:
I had my 3rd generation G 19 do this a few times. Upon close examination, there was damage to the follower on the magazine. Upon changing the follower, problem solved. My recommendation would be to check your mags. If you haven't done so already, mark all of your mags so you can tell them apart.



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Probably you right change new magazine, and throw the old one. Or I think replace a new part for slide lock.
 
BigBadAllis said:
I've seen this before on this forum ot the Glock Talk Forum. If you insert the magazine fast and hard the release can in fact release the slide. The only think holding the slide back is friction. Even having some oil on the release can make it more sensitive.

Jason
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This one seems the most likely to me. It's inertia. Instead of pushing the slide stop lever down, you are effectively "pushing" the entire gun (minus the slide lock) up. I am assuming that this doesn't happen if you push the mag in slowly.

If it is something that you want to happen all the time, you could grind the groove in the slide at a little bit (VERY little) more of an angle. If you don't want it to happen grind it closer to a 90º angle. Again very slight adjustments. If you grind too much in one direction, the slide won't stay back at all. Too much the other way and you won't be able to release it with just your thumb.
 
just got off the phone with GLOCK and they said it IS a normal function if using a high level of force when inserting the mag....no tips on how to do it consistently other than slamming the mag as hard as possible every time
 
lol I don't know that i'd consider myself a worshiper...but as I said I've had a 1911 (Kimber) and it was unreliable during, and after break in. My glock on the other hand goes BANG every single time.

So, FOR ME (no one else, just me) I carry a Glock because I trust it.
 
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