Glock 22 Gen 4 Jamming

BigBadAllis

BigBadAllis

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Hello,

I purchased a new Glock 22 Gen 4 yesterday. I have shot 210 rounds through it and it has "Stove Piped" (empty shell getting caught on ejection) 4 times. The dealer things that I might be buffering the kick with my arms/hands which reduces it's ability to conpletly kick out the shell. After the first two times, I was extra careful not to let it kick and locked my arm.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Thanks,
Jason
 
Several factors come to mind when a stove pipe keeps occurring: Limp wristing - you don't have to lock your arm, just hold firm and give the gun the resistance it needs to operate the slide. Poor quality ammo - Reduced loads, some reloads that are not up to factory spec, and do not have enough power to properly operate the slide to full inertia. Bad magazine - although not very common on a new gun, you may try another mag, unless you have been using more than one already. Mainspring and guide rod improperly installed - field strip and double check that the main spring is properly seated. If the problem persist, try another gun.
 
Did you clean it after purchase before using? No offense intended, however it happens a great deal.
Make sure you don't use to much oil.
Ammo, limp wrist, or spring could also be a cause.
Field strip, clean, properly lube, and try again.
Enjoy.
 
Thanks for the replies.

No. I didn't clean it after I bought it. Bought it Monday 2/1 and fired it 110 times. Went back Tuesday and shot another 100. I'm going to clean it tonight and go back tomorrow.

I am trying to be more aware of "Limp Wristing" but it still did it. I haven't had this frequent of a problem in my 30 years of shooting. This is however my 1st Glock and I think from what it sounds like the Gen 4 is a little more sensative to "Limp Wristing" due to the double spring.

Next time I shoot if it happens again the dealer offered to grab a couple of boxes and shoot it and use all 3 magazines. I'm going to mark each magazine so if there a problem with one, we'll know.

Thanks again,
Jason
 
I think I figured it out

When I took it apart to clean it, the spring was not completly set all the way in. Must have been when they gave me a quick display on how the Glock strips down he didn't properly seat the spring.

Thanks again,
Jason
 
BigBadAllis said:
When I took it apart to clean it, the spring was not completly set all the way in. Must have been when they gave me a quick display on how the Glock strips down he didn't properly seat the spring.

Thanks again,
Jason
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That would be a problem. Hope that takes care of the issue. Once you've got the gun properly reassembled, don't forget to do a "function check".




gf
 
Well the gun jammed again, but not as frequently. Only jammed 1 time in 150 rounds fired. I went to clean it again tonight and the spring was crooked and not even close to being seated in the groove. I also notice some excessing barrel rub from the spring being out of the groove and some denting around the washer like piece where the spring seats into the barrel. I put it back into place and re assembled the gun and slide the action back and fourth a few times and stripped it again and the spring was out of place again. I did this a few more times with the same results. I'm taking it back to the dealer to see what they say about it. They were made aware of my jamming issues from the day that I bought it 1 1/2 weeks ago and 450 rounds.

Has anyone else had this problem? Any ideas on how the dealer should deal with this? They are a very reputable dealer and I think one of the largest Glock dealers in Michigan.

Jason
 
Well my nice new 11 day old G22 Gen 4 is at the dealer waiting for a response from Glock advising them on how to proceed. They said Glock will probably have them send it in to be checked out and repaired or they may possible tell the dealer to exchange it. I'm frustrated and convinced that this is just a isolated case. It's my 1st Glock and I bought based on reviews and reliability and hoping to never deal with this kind of problem. I am glad to find out and have fixed now rather that finding out when my life or my families life is on the line. I'll keep you all posted.

Best regards,
Jason
 
This is exactly why I don't buy newly released items as soon as they hit the shelf. A friend of mine is in the process of buying a Gen. 3 Glock 22 RTF2... The local gun store was advertising the new Gen. 4 Glocks and wanted to sell him one. I told him to steer clear until they are proven... I own Gen. 2 and 3 Glocks and have NEVER had any problems.
 
I think I should have thought of that sooner. One of the so called improvements is the spring which I am having the problems with. One of the things that swayed me too was that it came with 3 magazines in the package.
 
Now I'm getting frustrated. I've been given two different stories on the reasoning. One was from the dealer relaying what Glock told them and the other from Glock when i called them myself. The dealers relay to me was that Glock Corp said that the G22 Gen 4 will not handle target loads very well (i.e. the Winchester White boxes) and should use hot loads which is typical for self defense or carry loads. I told the dealer that that doesn't set well with me since i bought the gun based on the good name in the market place and all of the reviews I have read about Glock. The dealer admitted not ever hearing anything like that from Glock prior to this issue. I would assume that any reputable dealer which the one I purchased from is would tell me that when i was buying it. If that's the case, I would have bought the Gen 3 that was right there next to it.

Glock corp also told me that it can be temepemental with the lighter loads (Winchester white box) and the 18 gr Federals should be fine for the range. Well again I think that's unacceptable giving that most people who say their guns never jam have been shooting a wide rande of different loads and I even seen the abused models work fine. One thing is that as of right now the Fedaral is $13.95 50 rd box abd the Winchesters are $16.95 for 50 rds and $29.95 for the 100 rd value pack. I really don't think it should matter on the Winchesters or the Federals.

Now to figure out why I have the small dings around the collar of the compression spring where it seats into the barrel.

This gun was purchased as a carry weapon which bothers me that I really can't trust it. I have been shooting for 30+ years and this is my first Glock. I was excited to own one to see what all the hype was about.

Best regards,
 
BigBadAllis said:
Now I'm getting frustrated. I've been given two different stories on the reasoning. One was from the dealer relaying what Glock told them and the other from Glock when i called them myself. The dealers relay to me was that Glock Corp said that the G22 Gen 4 will not handle target loads very well (i.e. the Winchester White boxes) and should use hot loads which is typical for self defense or carry loads. I told the dealer that that doesn't set well with me since i bought the gun based on the good name in the market place and all of the reviews I have read about Glock. The dealer admitted not ever hearing anything like that from Glock prior to this issue. I would assume that any reputable dealer which the one I purchased from is would tell me that when i was buying it. If that's the case, I would have bought the Gen 3 that was right there next to it.

Glock corp also told me that it can be temepemental with the lighter loads (Winchester white box) and the 18 gr Federals should be fine for the range. Well again I think that's unacceptable giving that most people who say their guns never jam have been shooting a wide rande of different loads and I even seen the abused models work fine. One thing is that as of right now the Fedaral is $13.95 50 rd box abd the Winchesters are $16.95 for 50 rds and $29.95 for the 100 rd value pack. I really don't think it should matter on the Winchesters or the Federals.

Now to figure out why I have the small dings around the collar of the compression spring where it seats into the barrel.

This gun was purchased as a carry weapon which bothers me that I really can't trust it. I have been shooting for 30+ years and this is my first Glock. I was excited to own one to see what all the hype was about.

Best regards,
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WOW!! That's insane!!:wacko: I shoot Winchester "white box", Federal "American Eagle" and Remington "UMC" ammo all the time! My Glocks digest them without any problems. I can't believe Glock said they can be temperamental with the lighter loads??? HUH??? I shoot the 165gr. WWB and have never had a failure. Yours is the first review I have heard regarding the new Gen. 4 Glock and I must say that I am very disappointed in Glock. They had a great working pistol.. should have left well enough alone instead of trying make "improvements"??? If this is what is to be expected from the Gen fours, then they can recall the whole line. I'll stick with my gen two's and three's. They work great!
 
I'll keep you posted next week when I go back to the dealer and see them face to face. I will be meeting with one of the owners to discuss where to go next. I really hope that it's something as simple as let's put in a new spring and see what happens and all turns out well. Maybe the spring is flawed. As you also stated I am disappointed in the Glock Service reps response.
 
My G-17C will eat anything I feed it, even the Wolf brand.
I would call or write Glock. Ask for someone with a title. That is total BS. WWB is a universally accepted brand by Glock and all their competitors. Tell this person with a title your issue is being documented on a website read by many people. Give him the link. They will start losing customers. Chances are u just got a bad one off the line. It happens with cars, airplanes, and toasters.
 
Glockster20 said:
WOW!! That's insane!!:wacko: I shoot Winchester "white box", Federal "American Eagle" and Remington "UMC" ammo all the time! My Glocks digest them without any problems. I can't believe Glock said they can be temperamental with the lighter loads??? HUH??? I shoot the 165gr. WWB and have never had a failure. Yours is the first review I have heard regarding the new Gen. 4 Glock and I must say that I am very disappointed in Glock. They had a great working pistol.. should have left well enough alone instead of trying make "improvements"??? If this is what is to be expected from the Gen fours, then they can recall the whole line. I'll stick with my gen two's and three's. They work great!
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I agree. No excuse for the pistol to have problems with particular loads. I just got off the phone with a fewf buddies who have Gen 4 and RTF Glock pistols. They have no issues with the pistols, and as with their other Glock pistols, use whatever ammo they feel appropriate.

It may be that you received a "lemon". I sincerely hope Glock makes things right. In a previous post,"theicemanmpls" offered some great suggestions. If you don't get resolution from the dealer where you purchased your Glock, you may want to move up the food chain and contact Glock directly.



gf
 
I received a call from the dealer tonight. He said that the recoil spring is locked into the barrel when it's assembled and can't move. He said that when stripping the gun to clean it, the spring is slightly pulled out of the seat which is why it is not seated and I thought it was doing it while shooting. They are still going to try to figure out why the washer looking tip of the recoil spring has several dings on the edge. He said if they can't figure it out they will send it to Glock. So far I've had great service from my dealer, Hopefully they can figure out what is going on. This gun was purchased to be my carry gun, but I really can't imagine doing that if some of these problems persist.

I'm keeping this thread alive hoping to have some experianced Glock people chime in and to also help me stay focused. This is not to air dirty laundry.

Jason
 
My 2 Cents Worth

I carry a Gen3 Glock 21 with over 3000 rounds through it without one single problem. Don't give up on the Glock Pistols they are the most reliable on the market. :biggrin:
 
I have a Glock 23 and it has fired everything without a problem, including around 400 rounds of the WWB. I've used Blazer range ammo a lot and then half of box of several defensive carry loads without any problems. I'd have to say that I've put easily 1,000 rounds through my Glock and not had a problem which is why I use it as my carry weapon.

Good luck with getting yours straightened out!
 
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