glad I have my Ccw

[rt48]

You're lucky that guy didn't call the LPD and make a claim that you threatened him with a gun. Remember, "He who calls the police first is considered the victim". When the cops found the gun on you, they would have been inclined to believe the other guy. Otherwise, how would he know that you had a gun?

When I lived in Lakewood in the late seventies, it was a great place to live but you couldn't pay me to live there now. The eastern part of Lakewood seems like just another part of Cleveland.

 

[justxboxin]

I live on lark off Madison it's not a very good place

 

[Sir Diealotz]

Glad you and your little one are safe.

Don't trust strangers "Stranger Danger"

 

[mflem]

Spot on Treo. This is insanity.

 

[mflem]

You have the responsibility to do EVERYTHING within your power before utilizing (or threatening to utilize) deadly force. There are no "what ifs" that make threatening someone with a handgun OK. You said "what if he had a knife"? Train to be prepared for IF and when that happens. If you are going to CCW,
please be aware that your firearm is your absolute LAST option at the moment you are about to lose your life or sustain serious bodily harm. This was in my opinion not a good representation of the CCW community to the public. Shame.

 

[titaniumman]

Lets not forget this post was started by someone who "drives around with his gun in his hand just in case". You are a danger to your child and everyone else around you.

"Someone's going to be sorry if they **** with me in my car I drive with my .380 in my hand ... All these events it only takes a second to take my life so I'm a step ahead"..justxboxin'

 

[Austin]

Treo we don't need that here

 

[Treo]

Treo we don't need that here

Some times you have to slap someone real hard to get their attention

And to be absolutely clear I am postivie this isn't the first time something like this has happened to the OP and I am convinced that he does walk around just waiting for a chance to pull that gun.

 

[justxboxin]

I've had my Ccw for about a year and that's the first time anything like that has happened , I'm pretty sure you sit Around this site to hate on everything I say .... You know why I don't care because it's fact that people who do that are jealous of something the other person has

 

[cluznar]

I go to Lakewood once in awhile, fairly nice place during the day when I'm there. Don't know about night. Just carry and if you have to, use it. Just do it wisely, and once you start shooting, don't stop till the threat is taken care of.

 

[Treo]

I've had my Ccw for about a year and that's the first time anything like that has happened , I'm pretty sure you sit Around this site to hate on everything I say .... You know why I don't care because it's fact that people who do that are jealous of something the other person has

Actually, no I don’t. Most of the time I assume you are trolling and I pay you no mind whatsoever. It just happens that this time you laid it in the dirt and stepped all over it and I had to comment.

 

[S&WM&P40]

First off let me say I understand we all can't afford to live in a 50K gated condo complex, you have to live in a area you can afford. As it seems you live in a bad area of town I can feel for you there. Secondly I don't know any back ground(posts you have made before that other members are refering to.) So I will not add a comment to that side of the topic.

I have to ask, A) How did you even let that guy get that close to you? B) As others have said your choice of a hostle (Get the ******* away from me etc..) is not the best choice of words. You always have to be the bigger man when your carring a firearm, it's no time to let a hot head get the better of you, or your next life partner just maybe a 400 pound man.

Always know who is in front of you, behind you and across the street from you. It's kinda like chess you always need to be a move or two head, always have an escape route mapped out in your head, even more then one. Have a plan of action in your head, should the suspect advance on you and you can't escape in time. Don't be afraid to call 911(even grown men call it.)

If you end up in a three Vs one again, never inform them your armed! If escape is out the window stand your ground, deploy your firearm when you have no other choice and mean it. What I mean by (mean it) is aim to kill not wound. If they know your armed they now have the upper hand and a higher chance of disarming you.

If you do have to discharge your firearm remember your legally accountable for every round that exits your firearm..

Can't say it enough, ALWAYS WALK AWAY IF YOU CAN...

 

[SGB]

I've had my Ccw for about a year and that's the first time anything like that has happened , I'm pretty sure you sit Around this site to hate on everything I say .... You know why I don't care because it's fact that people who do that are jealous of something the other person has

 

[Boston Boy]

We don't have a stand your ground law I looked it up today . I most deff was in fear with the manner that he handled himself . Might have not done it by the law book , but I would rather protect my little girl from some *******

WHAT! WHAT! WHAT! You've had CCW for over a year, and you just now look up the law? I agree with TREO, that you are trigger-happy. I've over 40 years of CC and not once have I threatened anyone or assaulted (in my state, what you did is considered an assault) a possibly innocent citizen. Get more training, open your ears and close your mouth!

 

[CharlesMorrison]

You could be charged with brandishing a weapon.

Pretty hard to "brandish" a weapon if it never leaves your pocket. You actually have to "show it" to be charged with brandishing a weapon.

 

[CharlesMorrison]

Maybe you spoke a little soon. Be sure it's a threat before you get into trouble. But there is that line when your kind of scared but you have to feel a life threatening danger. You can't pull your gun and use it unless you feel your life is in danger or your in danger of serious bodily harm. That Gun isn't for if someone scares you or if someone socks you in the head. Ppl still have to be men and woman. If you gotta take a ass beaten. Then take it. Don't take a life unless a life is about to be taken or serious serious serious injury could occur. If he would have had a rock,knife, bat etc. etc. that's when you resort to your weapon. If he is approaching u ya can't justify a shooting. If he hits you ya can't justify a shooting. I totally understand fear but if u carry a gun you absolutely must over come fear and keep a clear head.

Uumm... You DID read the part were he said he had his FOUR YEAR OLD daughter with him, right? Not really a "good time" to take an a$$ beating in my opinion..... Just sayin... Ya know?

 

[Treo]

Pretty hard to "brandish" a weapon if it never leaves your pocket. You actually have to "show it" to be charged with brandishing a weapon.

Care to bet on that?

Here is a story from the local paper

August 4, 2008 - 11:53PM

A former El Paso County sheriff's deputy appeared in court last week on a felony charge alleging he threatened someone with a gun.

Shawn Moncalieri, 33, was fired from the Sheriff's Office last year after two internal affairs investigations in seven months: one related to a questionable officer-involved shooting and the other involving possible wrongful arrests.

Colorado Springs police officers allege Moncalieri flashed his .40-caliber Glock (please note said Glock never came out of the holstrer) at business owner Larry Salas in April. Moncalieri faces a felony menacing charge, which carries a maximum three-year prison sentence.

Moncalieri, who works as a private investigator, went to Salas' Prince of Battle silk-screening business at 513 W. Colorado Ave. with disgruntled customer Ricardo Wong, according to an arrest affidavit. Wong and Salas exchanged words after Wong was ordered to leave the store. Salas called police when Moncalieri "placed his right hand on his right hip, indicating the presence of a firearm under his coat," the affidavit states. When a police sergeant arrived, he saw "suspect flop the right side of his coat backward to reveal a handgun in a holster." The sergeant took the loaded gun as evidence. Moncalieri told officers Salas threatened him with a knife.

Moncalieri declined comment Monday.

A 4th Judicial District Court judge ruled this year that the El Paso County Sheriff's Office had to hand over the two internal affairs investigations on Moncalieri to The Gazette. A Gazette reporter asked in February and March 2007 to review the files, but was refused. El Paso County Sheriff's officials have appealed the judge's ruling, saying internal affairs reports are not subject to disclosure as criminal justice records.

One report deals with an incident in which Moncalieri shot at a fleeing burglary suspect who allegedly tried to run him over. The 4th Judicial District Attorney's Office, which investigated the August 2006 incident, determined the shooting was questionable, although not criminal.

The second incident involves a possible wrongful arrest involving two Fountain men that resulted in the county secretly paying each $20,000. The Colorado Court of Appeals has not ruled on the sheriff's appeal.

Moncalieri is scheduled to stand trial on the menacing charge Oct. 27. He has pleaded not guilty and remains free on bond.

 

[CharlesMorrison]

Get more training, open your ears and close your mouth!

if you look at his profile, justboxin lists that he is a firearms instructor!
Maybe he should take his CCW class from another instructor who has a bit more experience!
Just sayin..... Ya know?

 

[CharlesMorrison]

Care to bet on that?

The article says he flashed his Glock, AKA, brandishing.

Thank you.

 

[accidentalfelon]

Leo's shoot your fellow citizens for advancing when warned to stop on a regular basis. Then they are cleared in every case when they claim they "feared for their life". They "brandish" at many routine traffic stops.

No harm to anyone occurred in this instance.

What is the matter with you psychos who constantly spout off all this legal bs? Would you have rather had the guy take his right hand, stab him with his left then spent countless hours raping and abusing the little child? No one knows this guy's intent.

The OP, his daughter and the other man all made it home safe.

That result alone means he did the right thing, no matter what some unconstitutional law or any self declared forum lawyers have to say.

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