Fumes from military small arms lead to decline in lung function

[PatrickB]

This is one reason I make sure the fan over the lane is blowing past me downrange. Also the newer range meets current standards to have a complete change of fresh air several times per hour. The older range is grandfathered in so particulate levels can be much higher since it is not required to have fresh air change over.

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Barcelona, Spain: Exposure to fumes released during the firing of military small arms can lead to a decline in lung function, according to a new study.

The research, which will be presented at the European Respiratory Society (ERS) Annual Congress in Barcelona today (9 September 2013), suggests that members of the armed forces who are regularly firing small arms could be putting their lung health at risk.
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Fumes from military small arms lead to decline in lung function
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[vernsimpson]

I have to question this "so called" study. I have heard things from numerous studies that something is bad for you or will shorten your life. Then a few years later I hear the very same thing has good benefits for you.

I have been conducting a study myself and have been thinking of applying for a grant for it. My study is this. I am on the path to proving that EVERYONE who has ever died has breathed oxygen!!! :secret:

 

[SCTom]

The other guy being a more accurate shooter because of all his range time is even more hazardous to your health.

 

[billt]

I put this into the same category as all of the other "man is bad" studies. Everything from cow farts to ".223 fumes" is deadly. So much so, now we have Diesel engines that are injected with piss to meet EPA "standards". This is like a Boxer chasing his tail.

 

[gunnerbob]

I got a letter from the Department of The Army a few years ago, they did a study of the air quality of the burn-pit at Bagram AF, Afghanistan and found it may cause lung problems... I spent my fair share of time there, burning garbage between roll-outs to Shank.

Military burn pits at Afghanistan base may pose health risk to troops, report says | Fox News

I've had it in my records since, but haven't had any problems (knock on wood) so... maybe it's all the shooting that'll get me in trouble later?

 

[rev. dave]

And maybe it's the 'later' part that'll get you gunnerbob. Some things aren't immediately apparent as damage - Gulf War Syndrome, e.g. Trust me on this - I've got that 'later damage' from events that I thought for a long time hadn't harmed me.

 

[gunnerbob]

And maybe it's the 'later' part that'll get you gunnerbob. Some things aren't immediately apparent as damage - Gulf War Syndrome, e.g. Trust me on this - I've got that 'later damage' from events that I thought for a long time hadn't harmed me.

Let's hope I'm one of the lucky ones, eh?

 

[wolf_fire]

Water is the leading cause of drowning... let's ban water!!!!

 

[buckey01]

It may be harmful, but I like th smell of smokeless powder.

 

[r1derbike]

I like the smell of my range bag. My wife doesn't like the smell of my clothes or me, after a range session. Of course, she also goes to the range, and I never complain about how she smells. Oh no! Not goin' there!

 

[kelcarry]

I have to question this "so called" study. I have heard things from numerous studies that something is bad for you or will shorten your life. Then a few years later I hear the very same thing has good benefits for you.

I have been conducting a study myself and have been thinking of applying for a grant for it. My study is this. I am on the path to proving that EVERYONE who has ever died has breathed oxygen!!! :secret:

Do not forget bus drivers who breathe fumes, cab drivers who breathe fumes, factory workers who breathe fumes, pedestrians who breathe fumes----shall I go on? And someone spent money on this study, when all they had to do was ask vernsimpson and me.

 

[S&W645]

As someone who has been exposed to chemicals, studies often come too late for the people involved. By the time they are out, the people exposed no longer can avoid becoming a statistic.

 

[Tip]

I spent my last 15 yrs in the Air Force as a firearms instructor. Retired in 03. I now have sarcoidosis in my spine so bad I can't work and standing for 5 minutes is excruciating. It started in my lung and then attacked my spine. Although the VA says it was not service connected I wonder if it may have been caused by chemicals used on my job. Probably will never know.

 

[Kramer1113]

I like the smell of my range bag. My wife doesn't like the smell of my clothes or me, after a range session. Of course, she also goes to the range, and I never complain about how she smells. Oh no! Not goin' there!

Perfect example of using your head.
Commenting on her smell following range day may lead to no wife on range day. I like it when my wife Wants to go to the range.

Good call brother.

 

[Stengun]

Howdy,

And maybe it's the 'later' part that'll get you gunnerbob. Some things aren't immediately apparent as damage - Gulf War Syndrome, e.g. Trust me on this - I've got that 'later damage' from events that I thought for a long time hadn't harmed me.

+1!

That's why every time I fill out a medical questionnaire from the VA I ALWAYS state that I was exposed to asbestos. That way, if years later I develop an asbestos related illness the VA cannot claim that I denied being exposed.

I had that happen when I filed a claim for tinnitus. I had 37 questionnaires where I stated that I had "ringing" in my ears but on one form I had checked "no" and the VA used the one form as grounds to deny my claim.

5 years later and a hearing with a Veterans' Law Judge I claim for tinnitus was granted.

Paul

 

[fudo]

...And saliva causes cancer...but only when taken in small amounts over a long period of time. Everybody's got to die of something.

 

[R O Bill]

Ah ! The smell of Gun Powder in the morning, afternoon, or evening what could be better !!!

 

[PatrickB]

Actually, I like the range smell. But, not to worry. Having fresh air blowing powder, lead, & smoke particulate away will not eliminate the smell.

Like *anything*, it's probably an issue with amount and frequency that can cause problems.

A little lead dust - no problem.
A little coal dust - no problem.
A little smoke - no problem.
A little water - no problem.