I am a former NYPD officer. I was let go from the NYPD about 10 years ago due to a violation during my probationary period. It's a long story but I was not arrested and there were never any charges filed against me. It was simply a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I was literally a few days away from my probationary period ending and if the incident happened a few weeks later, I would have been given a slap on the wrist and lost some vacation days. I recently had a friend retrieve my firearms from the property clerk. I would like to apply for a premise permit so I can take possession of my firearms again. I actually live near the precinct where I worked and I run into people who I have either collared or think I am still a police officer often. I realize a concealed carry permit is probably out of the question but does anyone on here have any experience with circumstances like this? I feel this situation is different than most others applying for permits as I have already been issued one and my fingerprints are already on file with the NYPD. Any help would be greatly appreciated and I thank you in advance.
Former nypd officer pistol permit
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NYwill15
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I was just wondering if you spoke to the PBA and asked them aboht trying to get you reinstated ? If not, what about applying to other police departments ? As far as a NYC permit ? I know they are expensive. Usually in New York, former police officers are given full carry permits. If you're having problems in NY, I suggest you move out of the city. Maybe even out of the State. You never said the reason for being dismissed, but if it's a minor incident you may qualify to become a police officer in another state. Your choice. Live where you are as a civilian, or move to another state and get back to being a police officer again.
mrjam2jab
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It took 10 years to get them back???
I had forgotten about them until I received a letter a few months ago from the property clerk.
This incident happened over 10 years ago. I am now 41 and although I have thought of other agencies, I have a bad taste in my mouth from how I was treated by the PD. I have friends who are officers who have been collared numerous times and done much worse that I was accused of and still have their jobs because they were not on probation.
r1derbike
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Move if your present job is expendable, and family is mobile. It sounds like LE is not what you would (could) get into now.
I'm not sure how your circumstances would affect getting a CC permit in another state, so I would consult an attorney about what happened and the legal ramifications attached, before moving. I should have said this first before the suggestion above.
Good luck. I hope you may get this squared-away.
I wouldn't have forgotten about my firearms, but that's just me.
I'm not sure how your circumstances would affect getting a CC permit in another state, so I would consult an attorney about what happened and the legal ramifications attached, before moving. I should have said this first before the suggestion above.
Good luck. I hope you may get this squared-away.
I wouldn't have forgotten about my firearms, but that's just me.
Clarencecoffee
New member
If these are your personal firearms, how did the police department get a hold of them?
If a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass! Now you know what it feels like to be shackled for to doing next to nothing. That kind of treatment has been wrought on normal citizens by the cops for many years now. Perhaps you could begin working on restoring firearm rights to those folks you helped take them away from! You get no sympathy from me. As many people on this forum so sanctimoniously screech...if you can't do the time don't do the crime!
I didn't commit a crime and I have never been "shackled". It seems to me you have been in the back seat of an RMP one too many times and have anger issues towards Police Officers. I apologize if I misjudged you. I'm just trying to get my pistols back so I can protect my family.
Forgot about them?!? Wow. Good thing you didn't make it as a police officer:
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and then there is this one (oopsy!)
Forgot about them?!? Wow. Good thing you didn't make it as a police officer:
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Cop's gun stolen from Hoover bar bathroom used in shooting death only hours later | al.com
and then there is this one (oopsy!)
I meant that I had figuratively "forgotten" about them. As in I didn't have a feasible way of retrieving them and most of my friends who were Police Officers already had Glock 26 off duty guns and didn't need another. One of my best friends was recently issued a NYC carry permit which prompted me to retrieve the guns.
"That kind of treatment has been wrought on normal citizens by the cops for many years now.
J510 and other police officers aren't responsible for the laws are passed by the local, state and federal representatives that YOU elect. They do however have a statutory duty to enforce them.
Don't like the firearms laws that are in effect? Then you and your like-minded friends must convince the rest of the citizens in your local, state and federal election districts to ELECT Representatives that will pass laws regulating firearms you want. Or challenge the law in a court and have it revoked on constitutional grounds.
Perhaps you could begin working on restoring firearm rights to those folks you helped take them away from!
The police don't remove a person's right to possess a firearm. A jury of their peers does when a such person is convicted of an crime, and as a result of that conviction, that person loses the statutory right to possess firearms.
J510 and other police officers aren't responsible for the laws are passed by the local, state and federal representatives that YOU elect. They do however have a statutory duty to enforce them.
Don't like the firearms laws that are in effect? Then you and your like-minded friends must convince the rest of the citizens in your local, state and federal election districts to ELECT Representatives that will pass laws regulating firearms you want. Or challenge the law in a court and have it revoked on constitutional grounds.
Perhaps you could begin working on restoring firearm rights to those folks you helped take them away from!
The police don't remove a person's right to possess a firearm. A jury of their peers does when a such person is convicted of an crime, and as a result of that conviction, that person loses the statutory right to possess firearms.
But to COMPLETELY FORGET about it until someone else reminds him that it existed?!?
I did not literally "forget" about it. I meant it figuratively. I did not know anyone at the time with a NYC permit who could take possession of the guns. Most of the Police Officers that I know already had Glock 26 off duty pistols and didn't need another duty gun. There was a good deal of red tape and hoop jumping involved and it took 4 months and quite a few trips to the property clerk to finally have them release the guns. Then they had to be shipped to a NY licensed FFL. While in storage my magazines were somehow misplaced.
BluesStringer
Les Brers
The "permit" to which you have referred a few times (and in the tile of the thread) is not a concealed carry permit, right? It's a permit that allows some citizens of NYC to either own or be in possession of a firearm, right? Or are you trying to get your privileges as a cop to carry under LEOSA back?
Nothing implied by any of these questions. Just trying to understand what you're trying to accomplish. When people use the word "permit" on the forum, it is very easy to mistake its meaning as only applying to a permit for concealed carrying of a weapon. The reason for that is that there are very few jurisdictions left in this country (thankfully) where simply acquisition or ownership of firearms requires permission from the government. I'm not 100% positive that it does in NYC either, but after seeing you post that you didn't know anyone "with a permit" who could "take possession" of your guns, it seems apparent that you're talking about something other than a CCW permit. A bit of clarification on the use of that word may help people understand what you're trying to accomplish.
Blues
ETA: I re-read your OP and see that you were clearly going for a "premise permit." So disregard the questions above. But some folks may want to re-read the OP too. He's trying to get his government to allow him to have guns in his home. Doesn't sound like it has anything to do with being a former cop, he just wants to be *allowed* to possess his own personal property inside his own home. I can't imagine why anyone would give him a hard time for that.
Yes, I was referring to any type of NYC issued permit. In NYC, obtaining a Premises permit which allows a person to own a handgun and keep it in his residence or transport it to a range unloaded in a locked box is more difficult to get than most states full concealed carry permits.
The whole point of this thread was to simply find out if anyone had any insight as to whether it would be easier or more difficult for me to obtain a PREMISES PERMIT since I have already gone through an extensive background check and my fingerprints are already on file with the NYPD.
The whole point of this thread was to simply find out if anyone had any insight as to whether it would be easier or more difficult for me to obtain a PREMISES PERMIT since I have already gone through an extensive background check and my fingerprints are already on file with the NYPD.
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