Forecasted Break-up of USA


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RUSSIAN ANALYST PREDICTS DECLINE AND BREAKUP OF USA
Tue Nov 25 2008 09:04:22 ET

A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.

Professor Igor Panarin said in an interview with the respected daily IZVESTIA published on Monday: "The dollar is not secured by anything. The country's foreign debt has grown like an avalanche, even though in the early 1980s there was no debt. By 1998, when I first made my prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion. Now it is more than 11 trillion. This is a pyramid that can only collapse."

The paper said Panarin's dire predictions for the U.S. economy, initially made at an international conference in Australia 10 years ago at a time when the economy appeared strong, have been given more credence by this year's events.

When asked when the U.S. economy would collapse, Panarin said: "It is already collapsing. Due to the financial crisis, three of the largest and oldest five banks on Wall Street have already ceased to exist, and two are barely surviving. Their losses are the biggest in history. Now what we will see is a change in the regulatory system on a global financial scale: America will no longer be the world's financial regulator."

When asked who would replace the U.S. in regulating world markets, he said: "Two countries could assume this role: China, with its vast reserves, and Russia, which could play the role of a regulator in Eurasia."

Asked why he expected the U.S. to break up into separate parts, he said: "A whole range of reasons. Firstly, the financial problems in the U.S. will get worse. Millions of citizens there have lost their savings. Prices and unemployment are on the rise. General Motors and Ford are on the verge of collapse, and this means that whole cities will be left without work. Governors are already insistently demanding money from the federal center. Dissatisfaction is growing, and at the moment it is only being held back by the elections and the hope that Obama can work miracles. But by spring, it will be clear that there are no miracles."

He also cited the "vulnerable political setup", "lack of unified national laws", and "divisions among the elite, which have become clear in these crisis conditions."

He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.

He even suggested that "we could claim Alaska - it was only granted on lease, after all." Panarin, 60, is a professor at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and has authored several books on information warfare.

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HK4U

New member
I am sure they would like to see that happening and would do what they could to help it along the way. They did make the statement years ago that one day they would bury us and that we would sell them the shovel to do it with. They have not changed and no matter what anyone thinks they are not our friends.
 
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boyzoi

Guest
I read this and thought it to be typical of the Russians and their inferiority complex.....not to mention, their Naval fleet being hosted by Chavez.....also in a Russian paper an article that quoted Obama bin Laden threatening an attack that will shake the world to its core.....
ahhh aint it all grand. :wacko:
 

Glockster20

Clinging to God and guns
+1. The Russians are not our friends and would love to see us fall on our face. They may have knocked down the Berlin wall, and disbanded the Soviet Union, but make no mistake, the country is still being ran by communists.
 

harvey13118

NRA Endowment
I could really give a good S--T what some commie SOB thinks about us. I could care even less about what some POS in the middle east thinks about us.

That said: I do not like the Massia The One or what any one wants to call him. BUT I WILL BACK HIM 100% AGAINST ANY COMMIE SOB. Then I'll go back after him in 2012.
 
I could really give a good S--T what some commie SOB thinks about us. I could care even less about what some POS in the middle east thinks about us.

That said: I do not like the Massia The One or what any one wants to call him. BUT I WILL BACK HIM 100% AGAINST ANY COMMIE SOB. Then I'll go back after him in 2012.


I sure would like to see a birth certificate first. :wink:



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toreskha

Titles are un-American.
Clearly he's analyzing this from a Russian perspective, which is why he's gotten it all wrong.

Russian political attitudes tend to place a lot of importance on a central figure of power, such as the President or PM. The assumption seems to be that we expect Obama to deliver some sort of magic fairy solution, and when he can't, people will be incredibly disappointed. Neither of those assumptions are true. Even Obama supporters will note that he can't deliver anything overnight, and Americans as a whole seem to be against central authority to the point where we won't be fraught with anger when Obama can't do the impossible.

Most people here also don't identify strongly with ethnic identity. Although there's a lot of Spanish store signs in South Florida, it's not a Semi-Autonomous Region full of people who have been living there for millenia. Any problems that we might have with immigration or race is incredibly minor compared to what goes on between Serbs and Croats. We're not Eastern Europe, and I don't see huge portions of the country seceding, even in a severe economic crisis.
 

boris

New member
all i can do is

watch and be ready for stuff. and THANK GOD I LIVE IN TEXAS. if the nation continues down te road to socialism, i would support succession. like Gen. Sam said..... the united states needs TEXAS more than TEXAS needs the united states. but i am also proud to carry the name AMERICAN.:big_boss:
 

tattedupboy

Thank God I'm alive!
watch and be ready for stuff. and THANK GOD I LIVE IN TEXAS. if the nation continues down te road to socialism, i would support succession. like Gen. Sam said..... the united states needs TEXAS more than TEXAS needs the united states. but i am also proud to carry the name AMERICAN.:big_boss:

I believe you mean secession. And we've already been down that road; remember the Civil War, in which 620,000 men died to prevent a secession? If we head toward socialism, we need to vote out the socialists, not tear this country apart.
 

redboneshadow

Former Military Police
The thing with the civil war was 20% of the people were paying 80% of the taxes not to mention that the eastern seaboard was controlling the shipping of goods to europe and from europe to the US. The slave issue was used as a reason to inflict further punishment against the south in order to get them to comply with what the north wanted to do. Gee sounds familiar doesn't it. That my friends IS the truth.
 

boris

New member
aahh!! you got me!!

I believe you mean secession. And we've already been down that road; remember the Civil War, in which 620,000 men died to prevent a secession? If we head toward socialism, we need to vote out the socialists, not tear this country apart.

i never could spell secession. may not be able to vote socialists out because the majority of them have been in Gov for years. and they do not call themselves socialists. they are democratic libs.and the nation as a whole has bought into the socialism lie because nearly every plank exists in our country under the guise of liberalism and liberals. and still most of the people here are:lazy2:
 

tattedupboy

Thank God I'm alive!
The thing with the civil war was 20% of the people were paying 80% of the taxes not to mention that the eastern seaboard was controlling the shipping of goods to europe and from europe to the US. The slave issue was used as a reason to inflict further punishment against the south in order to get them to comply with what the north wanted to do. Gee sounds familiar doesn't it. That my friends IS the truth.

The truth is that Lincoln couldn't have cared less about the welfare of the slaves. His foremost and paramount objective was to preserve the union. The Southern states, led by South Carolina, saw the election of Lincoln as a threat to their way of life (which was heavily dependent on slavery). Lincoln on the other hand, when South Carolina seceded, went all out to bring it and all the other seceded states back into the Union. The fact is, we don't know if Lincoln would have tried to put an end to slavery if those states had not seceded. My guess is that, rather than ending the practice of slavery, he would have worked to prevent it from spreading to states newly admitted to the union, the primary topic around which the presidential debates of 1860 centered.
 
America is devided. I am constantly amazed at how far we have drifted from our christian heritage. Wher do you think the founding fathers got all that good stuff in the constitution and the bill of rights? The good old black backed King James Bible. I am sure what I have hjust said has offened someone, and that isa proof what i say is true. Christian fundamentalists, of which i am one, are being seperated from "mainstream " conservatism, "liberals" are being seperated from whacko envirofacists, women's rights advocates are also deserting the democrat party. Very soon we will have a stagnant congress that can't get anything done. only two roads diverge from there; civil war, ort a fundamental change in the way the country is run, i.e. an abandonment of rule by constitution. We will either splinter into republics that reflect the idiology of the people who live there , or we will succumb to a form of fedral government like socialist Europe, or communist China. I don't think the latter is an option. The "crazy " Russian may be right.
 

HK4U

New member
America is devided. I am constantly amazed at how far we have drifted from our christian heritage. Wher do you think the founding fathers got all that good stuff in the constitution and the bill of rights? The good old black backed King James Bible. I am sure what I have hjust said has offened someone, and that isa proof what i say is true. Christian fundamentalists, of which i am one, are being seperated from "mainstream " conservatism, "liberals" are being seperated from whacko envirofacists, women's rights advocates are also deserting the democrat party. Very soon we will have a stagnant congress that can't get anything done. only two roads diverge from there; civil war, ort a fundamental change in the way the country is run, i.e. an abandonment of rule by constitution. We will either splinter into republics that reflect the idiology of the people who live there , or we will succumb to a form of fedral government like socialist Europe, or communist China. I don't think the latter is an option. The "crazy " Russian may be right.


+1. I agree.
 

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