For all the guys who say "Don't unholster your weapon unless you are going to shoot"

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accidentalfelon

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For all the guys who say "Don't unholster your weapon unless you are going to shoot"

SAN ANTONIO - A woman is in critical condition after she was stabbed outside her child's school Tuesday morning.

The attack happened around 10:00 a.m. Tuesday outside the Bonham Academy on St. Mary's Street. Teresa Barron, 38, had just dropped off her child at the school when the child's father showed up, and the two got into an argument. The child's father, 38-year-old Roberto Barron allegedly then stabbed the woman several times in the upper body and neck area.

Police say a bystander who happened to be a concealed handgun license holder pulled his weapon and ordered Barron to drop the knife. Barron surrendered and was taken into custody by the bystander and a school district officer.

The woman was taken to San Antonio Military Medical Center.

Barron was arrested for aggravated assault, and is in jail on a $150,000 bond.

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This happens more than you think, by just pulling your gun at the perp, most of the time they'll eather run or circume to the attack and drop there weapon, same thing happened when a guy, who had just bought the knife, started stabbing a person out side of same store, a person who was close pulled his gun and the guy dropped the knife and the other people jumped him and called for the police. Thives don't want to be hurt thats why they prey on people who can't defend themselves.
 
If it is considered brandishing to unholster without the intention of shooting then there would be a lot more people arrested. What are you going to do? Tell the bad guy, "Don't make me take this gun out of the holster!" when he has a deadly weapon in his hand that he just used to stab someone else?
 
with him in the act of stabbing someone, he should have been shot in order to keep further harm to the female (as long as there was no way of a through and through to hit a bystander). no second changes to continue the attack.
 
Depends on the circumstances. Using the above as an example, I would think not, as 1, you are attempting to stop a felony and thus use of force is justifiable, and 2, you should be prepared to fire [shoot] if the BG fails to stop the attack.

IMHO, IF you have no intention of following thru with #2, you have no business carrying a weapon.

I can think of many settings where one might unholster without any intention of shooting and not be 'brandishing', say in a gun shop to check the weapon for one.
Now if one unholsters just to make a point, and no use of force is involved, then it might be brandishing. Best to check the local law to know for sure.
 
most times a shot is not even required to stop a crime against you or another person just presenting the gun is enough to send thugs running in the opposite direction and stop what they was intending on criminally doing
 
eagleeyes said:
most times a shot is not even required to stop a crime against you or another person just presenting the gun is enough to send thugs running in the opposite direction and stop what they was intending on criminally doing
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and in this situation where he is actively stabbing a woman, pointing it at him may not have stopped him. if that's the case, are you going to tap him on the shoulder, ask if he saw you point it at him, then tell him you are going to point it at him again?

in all likelyhood of him stopping, he could have also taken another stab cut her throat. taking the shot would give the victim a better chance of survival. at that point, self-aid buddy care kicks in (for the victim).
 
"with him in the act of stabbing someone, he should have been shot in order to keep further harm to the female (as long as there was no way of a through and through to hit a bystander). no second changes to continue the attack."

Why shoot him unless he actually goes in for another stab? If you can stop him without shooting, that is the best option.
 
croute said:
"with him in the act of stabbing someone, he should have been shot in order to keep further harm to the female (as long as there was no way of a through and through to hit a bystander). no second changes to continue the attack."

Why shoot him unless he actually goes in for another stab? If you can stop him without shooting, that is the best option.
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it could work out as easily in the other direction. when someone's life is in danger from something like that, there's no need to be cautious. i'm not saying to to run up and point blank him in the head.
 
accidentalfelon said:
SAN ANTONIO - A woman is in critical condition after she was stabbed outside her child's school Tuesday morning.

The attack happened around 10:00 a.m. Tuesday outside the Bonham Academy on St. Mary's Street. Teresa Barron, 38, had just dropped off her child at the school when the child's father showed up, and the two got into an argument. The child's father, 38-year-old Roberto Barron allegedly then stabbed the woman several times in the upper body and neck area.

Police say a bystander who happened to be a concealed handgun license holder pulled his weapon and ordered Barron to drop the knife. Barron surrendered and was taken into custody by the bystander and a school district officer.

The woman was taken to San Antonio Military Medical Center.

Barron was arrested for aggravated assault, and is in jail on a $150,000 bond.

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Before pulling a Clint Eastwood stunt like this one, you should spend a lot of time at the range shooting at those double targets, where you try to hit one silhouette beside another without hitting the hostage.
 
croute said:
"with him in the act of stabbing someone, he should have been shot in order to keep further harm to the female (as long as there was no way of a through and through to hit a bystander). no second changes to continue the attack."

Why shoot him unless he actually goes in for another stab? If you can stop him without shooting, that is the best option.
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Before pulling a Clint Eastwood stunt like this, make sure you have first called 911 instead on your mobile device, and preferably keep your distance interval, so that you too don't become involved as a second victim. Not sure what the babe did to get this criminal mind's attention, or how she let her guard down, most likely by being oblivious without any situational awareness.
 
Warbirds said:
There have been a number of times certain members of the forum have said if you draw you have to shoot.

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Yes but also that if another bozo has a knife drawn, that is the time to open up and empty half your magazine into him/them.

Your memory is not yet all back from your last binge, I think.
 
jhodge83 said:
and in this situation where he is actively stabbing a woman, pointing it at him may not have stopped him. if that's the case, are you going to tap him on the shoulder, ask if he saw you point it at him, then tell him you are going to point it at him again?

in all likelyhood of him stopping, he could have also taken another stab cut her throat. taking the shot would give the victim a better chance of survival. at that point, self-aid buddy care kicks in (for the victim).
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Anytime you are shooting at a target of any kind, you need to consider the flight of the bullet, and that it will bend its path through any given medium, so if there is a good guy bad guy situation, there is a high danger of shooting both.

Anyway don't try this at home.
 
eagleeyes said:
most times a shot is not even required to stop a crime against you or another person just presenting the gun is enough to send thugs running in the opposite direction and stop what they was intending on criminally doing
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You and I have disagreed many times on that same erroneous notion.

Note that the gun is not a magic wand.

The gun is a piece of iron and wood that is vulnerable the instant you expose it.

So if you are going to draw then shoot.

And if you are going to shoot then shoot. Don't talk.
 
mmckee1952 said:
This happens more than you think, by just pulling your gun at the perp, most of the time they'll eather run or circume to the attack and drop there weapon, same thing happened when a guy, who had just bought the knife, started stabbing a person out side of same store, a person who was close pulled his gun and the guy dropped the knife and the other people jumped him and called for the police. Thives don't want to be hurt thats why they prey on people who can't defend themselves.
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Well if they run, when they see your gun, then it only means (1) you are a really slow shot, and (2) they will live to commit crime another day.
 
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