Flight Attendant Tries to Bring Loaded Gun Through Airport Security

[jsdjeanne]

but these aren't cops

These are not cops, but TSA workers. I go thru TSA check point every time I go to work (at airport PHL). They take your bottle of water, purfumes over 3 oz., and hair gells. They are not cops. They may be trained to find knives and explosives...but they are not cops!!

 

[rickk1]

as a concealed carry permit holder, i have a hard time believing she forgot she cannot carry a concealed weapon aboard any commercial aircraft. she must be a blonde. does the state of pa have any classroom requirements to obtain a permit? if not, they should.

 

[Rhino]

as a concealed carry permit holder, i have a hard time believing she forgot she cannot carry a concealed weapon aboard any commercial aircraft.

I've never seen that to be the case. It's always been a case of the person forgetting they have the gun with them, not forgetting that they can't have it on a commercial aircraft. And people do forget they have the gun with them, particularly those who carry it in a manner that it doesn't serve as a physical reminder, i.e. isn't pressed up against them like it would be in many holsters. If it's in a purse, a fanny pack or other such carry device where the gun doesn't press against your body in a way to provide a physical reminder that it's there, it's naturally going to be easier to forget about it. That doesn't mean you should, or that it's somehow okay to forget, but that's how it happens for far too many people unfortunately.

 

[HoJo]

These are not cops, but TSA workers. I go thru TSA check point every time I go to work (at airport PHL). They take your bottle of water, purfumes over 3 oz., and hair gells. They are not cops. They may be trained to find knives and explosives...but they are not cops!!

TSA called the police. The police are the ones that were handling the gun.

 

[Firefighterchen]

does the state of pa have any classroom requirements to obtain a permit? if not, they should.

Sorry...but that's a terrible idea.

 

[longslide10]

as a concealed carry permit holder, i have a hard time believing she forgot she cannot carry a concealed weapon aboard any commercial aircraft. she must be a blonde. does the state of pa have any classroom requirements to obtain a permit? if not, they should.

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No requirements here in PA but we don't have a lot of problems with LTCF holders or gun owners in general. Pennsylvania is ripe with gun history and hunters so I guess the state felt it wasn't necessary for CC permit training or that it infringed on our state constitution. Once in a while though a 'tard slips through the cracks. This numpty probably was on a binge on her days off and simply forgot she had it in her purse when she returned for duty. FA's are trained by the airline and are taught what is and isn't allowed on acft and in airports. Too bad she had to learn a lesson the hard way and probably ruined her CC future and job as a FA for any airline.

 

[Warbirds]

Phoenix Arms HP22BB. If you've never handled one, you'll have a tough time even ejecting a bullet that's in the chamber. Let's see: drop the mag, rack the slide... oops, that won't work.

Challenge accepted, will see if the LGS has one.

Try dropping the mag on a Walther PK380 if you had never handled one.

...now where the heck is the magazine release on this dang thing?...

Never handed one, but don't small Walthers use the European style mag release on the butt of the gun?

 

[NavyLCDR]

Wow. So many people willing to crucify a person for a simple mistake. But that does seem to be pretty much the norm for USACARRY.

 

[jsdjeanne]

OK...my question is...waas it the police or TSA that fired the gun? My guess is it was TSA.

 

[jsdjeanne]

I am an old blond, and a f/a in PHL. Not sure how she could have forgotten she was packing, I always use a different handbag when I carry, keeping weapon and bullets far from luggage that will be screened. My guess is she will too, after this!

 

[Rhino]

OK...my question is...waas it the police or TSA that fired the gun? My guess is it was TSA.

Airport Police.

 

[Firefighterchen]

Try dropping the mag on a Walther PK380 if you had never handled one.

...now where the heck is the magazine release on this dang thing?...

Never handed one, but don't small Walthers use the European style mag release on the butt of the gun?

It has the Walther/hk style mag release. It's a lever that's part of the trigger guard that pulls down.

 

[NavyLCDR]

OK...my question is...waas it the police or TSA that fired the gun? My guess is it was TSA.

Airport Police.

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A Philadelphia police officer was trying to unload the .38 when it accidentally fired a round into the wall.

No one was injured when the gun went off, but Philadelphia police will launch an internal affairs investigation over the handling of that gun by their officer.

She was charged with a summary offense of disorderly conduct and released.

Seems to me if there was any disorder caused in the airport it was due to the Philedelphia police officer's negligence, not the flight attendent's mistake. Also, notice the headline... "gun goes off". How about telling the truth instead: Philadelphia cop negligently discharges firearm in crowded airport!

 

[Rhino]

Airport Police.

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A Philadelphia police officer was trying to unload the .38 when it accidentally fired a round into the wall....

They're actually one and the same. The airport is owned by the city and the airport police is part of the city police force.

Seems to me if there was any disorder caused in the airport it was due to the Philedelphia police officer's negligence, not the flight attendent's mistake. Also, notice the headline... "gun goes off". How about telling the truth instead: Philadelphia cop negligently discharges firearm in crowded airport!

Yeah, like people who are reportedly killed by SUVs instead of by the people driving them or people who are reportedly killed by floods instead of by their own stupidity because they drove into a flooded roadway. Truth in reporting ceased long ago.

 

[Nightmare45]

A cop that cannot even safely unload any type of sidearm should not even be a cop in the first place imho.

My 85 year old mother when she was alive could safe this pistol, she carried it for years. Fire the dumb ass.

 

[rlusczek]

Not crucify, just bring awareness to self responsibility. If it's your job, then be diligent at executing it. If you are not LE, know the laws and abide in those boundaries. Just as we must know the law for carrying, such as a case like Zimmerman-Florida; stand your ground not pursue to be within the confines of the law. So LE or TSA security, where is the protocol, learn it. Call it a "simple mistake", whatever, I just say that he is lucky that he didn't inadvertently shoot someone while trying to figure out how to unload.

 

[NavyLCDR]

Not crucify, just bring awareness to self responsibility. If it's your job, then be diligent at executing it. If you are not LE, know the laws and abide in those boundaries. Just as we must know the law for carrying, such as a case like Zimmerman-Florida; stand your ground not pursue to be within the confines of the law. So LE or TSA security, where is the protocol, learn it. Call it a "simple mistake", whatever, I just say that he is lucky that he didn't inadvertently shoot someone while trying to figure out how to unload.

I think I need to clarify . My statement:

Wow. So many people willing to crucify a person for a simple mistake. But that does seem to be pretty much the norm for USACARRY.

Was in response to:

Once in a while though a 'tard slips through the cracks. This numpty probably was on a binge on her days off and simply forgot she had it in her purse when she returned for duty. FA's are trained by the airline and are taught what is and isn't allowed on acft and in airports. Too bad she had to learn a lesson the hard way and probably ruined her CC future and job as a FA for any airline.

The flight attendent made a simple mistake that many people make. The officer who negligently discharged the firearm, it appears, was guilty of just exactly that....negligence, and should be held accountable.

 

[longslide10]

The flight attendent made a simple mistake that many people make. The officer who negligently discharged the firearm, it appears, was guilty of just exactly that....negligence, and should be held accountable.

Well NavyLCDR you seem to be very defensive of this woman, she is not related is she? Yes she made a mistake---a major one, one that will more than likely cost her a career and her permit. I will agree that the new winner of numpty 'tard award goes to the cop that discharged the weapon.

 

[Firefighterchen]

If you are not LE, know the laws and abide in those boundaries.

If you are LE, shouldn't you also know the laws and abide by them? I'm not sure what you are getting at...

Just as we must know the law for carrying, such as a case like Zimmerman-Florida; stand your ground not pursue to be within the confines of the law.

I have read that Zimmerman was not pursuing when Martin attacked. Do you have evidence stating otherwise?

So LE or TSA security, where is the protocol, learn it. Call it a "simple mistake", whatever, I just say that he is lucky that he didn't inadvertently shoot someone while trying to figure out how to unload.

Maybe I just don't get your post...anyone else having trouble understanding it ?

 

[Rhino]

Well NavyLCDR you seem to be very defensive of this woman, she is not related is she? Yes she made a mistake---a major one, one that will more than likely cost her a career and her permit. I will agree that the new winner of numpty 'tard award goes to the cop that discharged the weapon.

He was just pointing out the obvious truth. People make that mistake all the time, something your binge comment indicates that you're apparently unaware of.