FL Open Carry Bill Filed SB-234


StogieC

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There's a lot in this bill for CCW, College Campus, and Open Carry. Please call on your FL state legislator to co-sponsor the bill!
 

The Fight continues....

There's a lot in this bill for CCW, College Campus, and Open Carry. Please call on your FL state legislator to co-sponsor the bill!

SB 234 - Firearms

Had a thought there would be more of a detail so I could forward to some of our SC Legislators. Will have to look at it closer. We all should have the right to OC if permitted to CC.
 
That's why people need to call their legislators to support or co-sponsor SB-234 and HB-45

Just to be clear.. You need to call your STATE House & Senate representative.

When you call the your house legislator mention HB-45
House representatives can be found HERE

When you call your Senator mention Link Removed
Senate representatives can be found HERE
 
There's a lot in this bill for CCW, College Campus, and Open Carry. Please call on your FL state legislator to co-sponsor the bill!

I'm on it. I am emailing a message to Jimmy Patronis and will keep getting on him until he co-sponsors this.
 
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I don't think I would open carry ever. It is a warning to bad guys and I think I would rather have surprise on my side :unsure:


Edit: Where did this ad come from and how do I remove it??

Edit#2 Okay, now it is gone
 
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I don't think I would open carry ever. It is a warning to bad guys and I think I would rather have surprise on my side :unsure:

read this: http://www.usacarry.com/forums/open-carry-discussion/7230-open-carry-argument.html

The Open Carry Argument
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The simple truth is that while surprise is a monumentally superior tactical maneuver, it is exclusively an offensive action, not a defensive one. What many internet commandos call ‘defensive surprise’ is nothing more than damage control, a last ditch effort to fight your way back out of a dangerous situation.

And welcome aboard!
 
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AND the ad gets added to the last post of each thread, it will drop off YOUR post once someone else has posted. OR if you just go back and edit your post, it will disappear.
 
So I am in college and a big supporter of this bill. I have found many other students that share my views. I am not a big English person and was wondering if there is any one that could help me maybe try and write a petition?
 
(I hope this is not hi-jacking this thread but this might help that last college student that posted) This was in the Florida forums and I have sent emails to all of the Committee members listed below with positive feedback from them already reponding to my emails. I will attach the thread below.

FL Carry Reform Bill in Committee needs YOUR HELP NOW!

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FLORIDA CARRY LEGISLATIVE ALERT

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - February 12, 2011
SB 234 - FL Senate Committee on Criminal Justice
Hearing scheduled for 2/22/11

SB 234 is on the agenda of the FL Senate Committee on Criminal Justice on Tuesday, February 22nd at 9:00am. Florida Carry, Inc. urgently requests that you email via the members of the committee in support of Senate Bill 234.

This NRA authored bill comprises several separate initiatives. These include the option for CWFL holders to carry openly; a provision to authorize carry at career centers, colleges, and universities; the right to store a firearm in one's vehicle wherever it may be lawfully parked; the authorization for the Department of Agriculture to take fingerprints; the repeal of Florida’s ban on long gun purchases in most other states. Quite simply put, this is the most comprehensive carry rights bill since shall-issue concealed carry was passed twenty-four years ago.

Florida is one of only seven states where open carry of firearms is generally forbidden, excepting under certain circumstances. Arguments against open carry generally consist of concerns regarding the fearful reactions of the general population. Some have suggested that an open carrier becomes an instant target, having his firearm snatched by a criminal in line at a convenience store. The facts simply do not support those allegations. In states where open carry is lawfully practiced, citizens have become accustomed to the understanding that a holstered weapon is a danger to no one. There have been no wholesale attacks on open carriers, nor have open carriers been shot with their own weapons. Police officers are not fearful of open carriers as they know that a 5-year FBI crime study has shown that criminals do not open carry, nor do they carry in holsters. Criminals shun attention, something that the open carrying of a firearm invariably draws to some extent. Not a single state that has legalized open carry in recent years has repealed the right.

In 1987, open carry was outlawed primarily because of the predictions of wild west shootouts, blood in the streets, gun battles over parking spaces, and normally law abiding people indiscriminately becoming homicidal maniacs. The main opponent of open carry was Janet Reno, then assistant state attorney. She was able to rally support from a vocal group of police administrators with the doom and gloom scenarios. Amazingly enough, the exact same arguments were heard against "shall-issue" concealed carry. Twenty-four years later, and none of the rampant bloodshed predictions about concealed carry have come true.

With regard to carry on colleges and universities, it is not coincidence that most of the mass shootings in the U.S. occur on the campuses of educational institutions. To believe that a potential assailant would be dissuaded from committing mass murder simply because there is a law forbidding him to bring a firearm on campus is pure folly. Rape, robbery, assault, and murder have all occurred on campuses across the country.

College and university administrators continue to deny the reality that by prohibiting students, faculty, staff, and visitors from defending themselves promotes an unsafe environment. Often ignored by opponents is the fact that only concealed weapons/firearms license holders would be permitted to carry on campus, and the minimum age requirement to have a license is 21. Those students under 21 would not be permitted to carry on campus. Once again, the potential criminals do not care about minimum age or having a license. After all, there are no barriers to access on most campuses. Florida Carry, Inc. supports SB 234, and encourages all gun owners/carriers to join us in contacting the senators on the Florida Senate Criminal Justice Committee. Please tell them 24 years is enough.

We urgently need you to email the committee members NOW!
Include “Support SB 234” in the Subject Line

E-mail Helper (feel free to cut, paste, and edit to suit)
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TO:
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

SUBJECT:
Support SB 234 – Support the Second Amendment


Dear Senator,

This e-mail is to express my support for Senate Bill 234, Firearms. As a member of the Florida Senate Committee on Criminal Justice, you will be hearing this bill on Tuesday, February 22nd. I respectfully ask that you wholeheartedly support this bill.

The predictions of doom and gloom that preceded the adoption of "shall-issue" concealed carry have been proven to be fiction. For twenty-four years, Florida concealed weapons/firearms license holders have proven themselves to be responsible to the extreme. Since 1987, only 168 of nearly two-million licenses have been revoked due to misuse of firearms. It is time to recognize that responsibility by giving those licensees the option to carry their firearms in the manor that is most appropriate to their situation, openly or concealed. In the 43 states that permit some form of general open carry, not a single state has repealed that right.

It is also time to recognize that criminals have discovered a target-rich environment at colleges and universities. Rapes, robberies, assaults, and other violent crimes continually occur at and near campuses on students, faculty, and staff alike. Concealed weapons/firearms license holders should not have to relinquish the ability to defend themselves because of a mistaken belief that criminals obey campus restrictions.

Please support SB 234.

Respectfully yours,



<your name>
 
Today is the day!!!

I am a florida resident and would like to know how I will be able to hear, watch or follow this reform bill as it unfolds today?:wacko:
 
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Contact Florida Open Carry. org Someone there will get back with you and help you out, I'm sure..

I am a florida resident and would like to know how I will be able to hear, watch or follow this reform bill as it unfolds today?:wacko:

This is a Senate Bill (Note the SB n the beginning).. You can track the progress of any Florida Senate bill at the Senate Website just type in the Bill Number at the top.. Just the numbers, not the SB..

Florida works like Wash D.C. which means there is a corresponding House bill. You can follow Florida House bills at the Fl House of Reps Website

I am unsure of how quickly this information gets updated though.. I don't know if it's once an hour, a day, or a week..
 
New Update

Just read on Florida Senate website... that the bill has been (Motion to temporarily postpone)
 
We should all have the right to OC if legal to possess a firearm.
+2

But it doesn't mean that I'll do it all the time.


As for the Florida Senate Bill 234, it was the chair that pulled it temporarily. And it's his bill.
 
SB 234 and HB 517 in Florida

Although both of these bills are similar, HB 517 has gotten more traction and is about to be taken to the house for approval after a 14-4 Yay-Nay vote in Judiciary.
I admit that even though the bill states open carry, since there are no details, I have read that it only pertains to accidentally printing or showing your concealed carry. I have read that it is to "open carry but not to carry openly" which I cannot understand at all.
Can someone shed some light? Will we have true open carry in Florida even if it is only for the CWP holders?
 

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