first 1911

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screaminhemi

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Hello all. Thinking about getting my first 1911. I'm wanting the kimber ultra covert 2. Really wanted a full size but thinking this gun would make a good ccw gun. I carry a XD .40 service and compact model now and have for about five years. Never carried gun that has external hammer so I'm guessing it needs to be cocked and lock. New to the 1911 and just wanted some thoughts on carrying a gun like that. please comment good or bad.
 
I carry a Kimber Ultra Raptor Compact every day, cocked and locked. I love it and it will work if ,God forbid, I ever have to use it.

KL
 
I, unfortunately sad to say, do not currently have a 1911. However, I'm highly considering the Sig Sauer Ultra. But hey, I'm partial to Sigs. Many manufacturer's offer great 1911's though.

KK, I like the Kimber Raptor also, but so does Kimber. LOL.
 
I carry the High Standard GI model (made by armscor) and it's great. I carry it in a shoulder rig and sometimes IWB SOB depending on the clothing. I enjoy carrying and shooting it and I use a .38 snubby as a back up. It's heavy on the pants; I wear suspenders to assist.
 
Have colt commander carry cocked and locked. Enjoy, find it funny all the folks and companies that spoke ill of 1911 and all of them now copy. Nice endorsement.
 
Big fan of the 1911. I am not nearly as well schooled as I would like to be on every possible make and model of pistol available, but of the modest number of firearms I have ever used the 1911 has proven itself to be a sturdy and reliable companion.

For most situations I have my Kimber Pro Carry II snug in my Mernickle SOB but it's such a pretty firearm that I am prone to breaking out my Kimber Avenger Holster for open carry.

And yes, condition 1 is the only way you should ever carry a 1911.
 
I carry the Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry with a custom made leather holster. Like all the other Kimber owners above, Love It!!!!!!!
 
My thoughts on your 1911

I sell firearms part time mostly for fun and to receive insider discounts. I own 3 Springfield XD's including a .40 sub compact. I own several 1911's and in my humble opinion the Kimber Super Carry Pro is just about the ideal carry gun without spending $2500 or more for a custom maker 1911. I have a Kramer custom IWB holster and it is far more comfortable and less noticeable than carrying any of my XD's. All Kimbers go through extensive quality control tests and have match grade barrels. While they are not cheap, if I had purchased my Kimber sooner I would own 6 less handguns! It is money well spent and I have yet to have a customer who is sorry they bought one. My Pro size Kimber shoots better groups than any of my full size 1911's that do not have match grade barrels. I would suggest you decide what features are important to you in a 1911 and I'm sure Kimber has a model that fits the bill. Dan Wesson also makes several great 1911's.
 
I too carry a Kimber Crimson Carry Pro II with either my IWB Crossbreed or a Forbus OWB. Having only carried a .357 revolver and M&P .40 in the past, I was a little nervous seeing that hammer cocked when I first got the 1911. But with the redundant safety features I personally carry condition 1, cocked and locked, without worry. Early congrats on the new Kimber!
 
I know some one will say I am going to HE.. For even mentioning a Crossbreed ST kydex anything near my Colt LW Commander. It is either that or an RIA Tactical. I LOVE the 1911 format.
You will like your Kimber. I don't have one. I have heard as many good things as bad with them. Given the right ammo for YOUR pistol it will go bang. It is kind of a love/hate relationship finding the right mix to make 'em run true.

Be prepared to do a little pampering. Springs, oil and extra cleaning. Do that, and they will run like a swiss watch.
 
I have both the Colt New Agent and Defender. I am mostly a revolver guy for 40+ years but I do love the 1911. I find the officer sized model the most comfortable to carry. I love my pair of Colts. Had a Kimber and sold it. Never was reliable enough for me to carry but then again I had guns from all major manufacturer's fail on me, even the last two Glocks which jammed new out of the box for both me and the gun dealer no matter what we tried. Seems that the chances of getting a bad gun are higher than they used to be or perhaps it seems that way since I started buying more semi autos than revolvers. :)
 
I have a Llama iii-a which is a small 1911 look alike. It is a 1911 shrunk down to. 380 I love it and it shoots accurate. The only issue with a llama is that they are hit and miss. Either it shoots good or you throw it at the BG.

Now I want a full size. My father has a Thompson full size that I love. I am hoping to get that. Or a Sig. Full size.
 
1911's for carry

Main thing to remember with ANY handgun with an active (thumb operated) safety.You MUST pratice your draw/ turn safety offuntil it is embeded in your muscle memory (3000-5000 repetitions).Practice:Get a proper grip,start draw,thumb on safety,as gun is coming up (NOT pointed at your leg,foot,etc), push safety to off position,front sight on target,fire.
I have had several 1911's.Good guns. I normally make the motion of thumbing down (to OFF SAFE) every time I do a draw stroke (even if I have a Glock or other passive safety type gun).
 
I had been planning to start a thread similar to this one to ask for some advice, but hey, it's already here, so....

It's pretty much just the way it worked out, as opposed to actively resisting ever acquiring a 1911, but I've been shooting (and collecting/trading/bartering) handguns for just shy of 40 years now and have never had one. One of my first auto-loaders was a S&W Model 39, and the vast majority of handguns I've had since then have been the DA/SA/Decocker variety. It's what I learned with, and what I've trained with, so I'm completely comfortable and confident that I can draw and fire the first round as fast as I am humanly capable of. I use the safety/decocker only to drop the hammer, then carry with safety off - first round via DA.

For the last year or so I've had a real hankerin' for a 1911 platform, but I've held off just because of what the above post mentions - the relearning curve and muscle memory development that would be necessary to get me back to the same confidence level I have with the DA/SA/DC platform. I might have stumbled upon a compromise though, and would like anyone in the know to give me your thoughts about the Link Removed. That's a link to a review, and the author loves it, but I don't know anything about that author or the magazine he writes for, so I'd just like some more input if'n ya got any to offer.

Beyond that specific weapon though, how long would y'all say it might take a highly experienced shooter to fully adapt to the 1911 platform? I guess time shouldn't be the measure necessarily, maybe number of rounds sent downrange, and number of draw/dry-fire exercises, that kind of estimate.

Thanks in advance.

Blues
 
tdeanl said:
Main thing to remember with ANY handgun with an active (thumb operated) safety.You MUST pratice your draw/ turn safety offuntil it is embeded in your muscle memory (3000-5000 repetitions).Practice:Get a proper grip,start draw,thumb on safety,as gun is coming up (NOT pointed at your leg,foot,etc), push safety to off position,front sight on target,fire.
I have had several 1911's.Good guns. I normally make the motion of thumbing down (to OFF SAFE) every time I do a draw stroke (even if I have a Glock or other passive safety type gun).
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Excellent point. The only pistols I use these days are 1911s so I tend to take dealing with the thumb safety as a matter of course.

Not too long ago I got my hands on a Baretta 9mm, a weapon I had not touched since separating from the Marine Corps, and my "1911 muscle memory" kept taking over causing me to fumble with the thumb safety repeatedly. I'm no pro - but it was still a humbling experience.
 
lagmonkey said:
Excellent point. The only pistols I use these days are 1911s so I tend to take dealing with the thumb safety as a matter of course.

Not too long ago I got my hands on a Baretta 9mm, a weapon I had not touched since separating from the Marine Corps, and my "1911 muscle memory" kept taking over causing me to fumble with the thumb safety repeatedly. I'm no pro - but it was still a humbling experience.
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That is why I have 2 carry guns. My Smith wheel guns and my 1911; I am taking no chances defeating MYSELF. I can't imagine laying there wounded thinking, "I did this to myself." I have been shooting 1911's for about 25 years now and the muscle memory is SO instinctual that I don't think I will ever feel comfortable with another pistol. I take grief from my friends who all carry Glocks about my choice, but not only do I like my 1911 but it's the only thing I feel comfortable with. I am familiar with all kinds of handguns because of the business I am in and I can operate all of them, but it's the 1911 and my Smith that I will always carry on me.
 
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