FBI NICS denied my pistol

[vettehigh]

Time

79 days down, 63 more to go until I can take possession:biggrin:

Maybe I'll be lucky and get it sooner, but highly doubt it

This process has been nothing but :angry:

Will post up once received

 

[sgtbill]

I am from the Government and I am here to help you.
Yes New Jersey is still the Arm Pit of the world and I love it here in the state of Va.
Bill

 

[BC1]

Hate to be this way but it could be due to buying an XD LOL. To bad ya have to live in NY.

Where he lives makes no difference. This is a federal check. Please don't propogate the myth that NY some horrible place where no one can get a permit because that's completely wrong.

Check - http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics

 

[BC1]

Sorry, Constitutional Rights, and I'm pretty sure that restricting people to home defense is why "Shall not be infringed" was put in there. As far as "making a lot of noise", Don't knock it. Making noise can accomplish a lot as long as the points are valid. Politely asking does nothing in a commie state. I'm from one, I know.

A NICS check is a federal background check, not state. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics

 

[BC1]

What in the world is a "shall issue state for home defense"?

"Shall issue" refers universally to concealed carry permits, not a handgun you can own but can't carry.

My brother-in-law lives in Queens. Just to purchase a handgun, he has to (1) jump through hoops, (2) pay hundreds of dollars in fees; (3) produce references, including one who'll sign a paper promising that if my brother-in-law dies, the reference will immediately scoot to the police station and inform the officers that a dead man's gun needs to be confiscated; (4) wait several months; and then (5) pay a couple of hundred dollars in fees every year he owns the gun. That qualifies as "shall issue"?

And all this allows him only to keep the gun in his apartment. After all the fees and background checks and BS forms, he still can't possess that firearm anywhere but there. So even with possession of illegal guns rampant among street criminals, my brother-in-law as a law-abiding Air Force veteran cannot carry for self-defense.

Somehow I don't think that's what Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Hamilton, et alia had in mind. In fact, I'd say that the prohibitive fees alone constitute a violation of the Second Amendment.

c45man: Yes, the Sullivan Law applies only in New York City. In fact, when I was a kid, you would read about the Sullivan Law more in connection with knives. Remember that in "West Side Story," the (highly romanticized) gangs carried knives, not guns. That was representative of the time (1961); the gangs of today are more technologically advanced.

Note that gun-hating New York Senator Charles Schumer has a CCW permit, as do a bunch of celebrities, rich people, anti-gun newspaper editors, and people with political connections. Is that "equal protection of the laws"?

Your brother-in-law lives in NYC not NYS. He is goverened by a set of laws specific to NYC. In NYS the cost is about $125, permit valid for life, no restrictions on bars, banks, public transportation, etc. NYC is another country completely.

Besides, the OP was complaining about a federal issue... not state related.

 

[BC1]

In NYC, if you have a NYS pistol permit (CCW) not endorsed by NYC (which, by the way is now not even considered, as the new law states you must be a NYC resident to have a pistol permit endorsed by NYC)

Now, my statement of "all we can ask" that has drawn some criticism stands, as this is a hot anti-gun state. The laws are ridiculous.

My business partner has a NYC carry permit and doesn't live in NYC. He practices law there.

Most posters don't understand that there are few actual "shall issue" states. Every state that uses a permit system has some provision for denying the permit to certain people such as convicted felons. We've done over 1,700 permits for NY residents and had only one denial since 2007. My problem with NY is that they won't allow non-residents carry.

 

[BC1]

That's all you can ask? How about asking for your American Rights? NY is the way it is because the people ALLOWED it to happen, plain and simple. There was a time where NY,NJ,MA,CA were no different than any other free state. MANY state have tried something stupid with there gun laws at some point. The difference is people push back (while they still can) and do something about it before it's too late.

How is NY? You need to explain this to me. I can lay my handgun rights along side most states and would still choose NY. I know NY gun laws very well as I teach classes in the penal law. Posters keep repeating false info. We should create a check list and see where each state ranks. You would be surprised at the freedom we enjoy.

 

[rifleshooter474]

Your State New York is 100% ANTI-FIREARMs, and nothing is ever going to change it.Everyone involved with anything involved with obtaining a firearm in your State or any of the Cities in your State, is going to do everything in their power to block you or hold you up.

 

[BC1]

Your State New York is 100% ANTI-FIREARMs, and nothing is ever going to change it.Everyone involved with anything involved with obtaining a firearm in your State or any of the Cities in your State, is going to do everything in their power to block you or hold you up.

Completely wrong. My company provides permit services to new applicants and upgrade services for existing CCW permit holders. The long wait time is due to backlog. NYS mental health checks are taking forever due to personnel cuts. We have a relationship with the pistol permit departments of all the lower NYS counties. The people working there are generally pro-gun and are very nice to work with. No one can be denied the permit without cause and a written explanation. NY will generally deny those with a past history of domestic violence, protection orders, drug convictions and convictions for person-on-person crimes such as stalking, menacing, harassment and assault. Most states will block a permit with those convictions. We have been successful in getting approvals for persons with DUI & petty drug convictions as well as other low-level crimes. Over 1,700 permits issued through our staff with only one denial since 2007. That's a pretty good track record. A good percentage of those permits have been for unrestricted carry. Orange County has 373,000 residents and about 31,000 CCW permits on file. That's about 8.5% CCW permit ownership... close to the average in most states.

 

[vettehigh]

Finally

Well Saturday I went to the mail box and there was a large envelope from
the FBI.....I was told 142 days until I received their answer, well it onlytook about 110 days

APPROVED:yes4:

Will be picking up my pistol some time this week

Will also be sending out info for the VAF so I will not have to go
through any of this again.

"Some individuals may find they are continuously delayed when purchasing or redeeming firearms. Others may successfully appeal a NICS denial but still experience extended delays or erroneous denials on subsequent transactions. The Voluntary Appeal File (VAF) was established to assist in these types of situations by providing a way for an individual to request the NICS Section’s Appeal Services Team (AST) maintain information to clarify their identity or past events to prevent future extended delays or erroneous denials on firearm transfers."