Extra mags really

I have had mag failures in my .22 pistol at the range and once in a self defence shooting. I carry a spare mag fully loaded plus the mag i keep in my pistol so i have 21 rounds total thats 10 in each mag plus 1 in the chamber. I also have 2 speed loads for my .38 spl for that one i have 15 rounds 5 in the pistol and 10 between the 2 speed loads. I may never have to use all of my rounds but if i need to i have them. Like i was always told "i'd rather have them and not need them then, need them and not have them"
 
I have 16 rounds to stop a threat. Do I really need to carry more? My plan was always to stop the threat long enough to get away and call the police. I'm a scaredy cat, ok. Staying and dying is not my first choice.

If you think your primary mag will never fail, your just as ignorant as people who shoot their firearm less than twice a year and think they can depend their life on it.
 
If you think your primary mag will never fail, your just as ignorant as people who shoot their firearm less than twice a year and think they can depend their life on it.
Ignorance has nothing to do with it. I know the odds. I understand the analogies. I'm already carrying a voice recorder, leatherman pocket knife, wallet, cell phone, and keys. A double stack mag in my pants pocket is not my cup of tea.
 
Potential magazine failure? Over forty years of shooting I've never had one. It's foolish to attempt to plan for every potential contingency.
Wow! 40 years without a mag failure?

Now that's incredible as I see them pretty much every week at our Monday night shoots.

You're correct that trying to plan for every contingency is a hopeless cause, but I can see a spare mag, not neccesarily for the extra rounds, but for the replacement magazine.

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Hey DCkilla: I did not go further than your thread intro---IMO, you are absolutely correct. I am sure if I look at the replies to your thread, I will find the reasons I never "chimed in" on previous threads that addressed this subject, with all of its "what ifs" and a mob of zombies attacking me, and my ability to weather the firestorm of a "shootout at the OK corral" etal. My mag holds 20 plus the one in the chamber and if that is not enough, I am probably dead already. I can understand, maybe, a 5 shot revolver having an extra speedloader, but even there, statistics, if you want to embrace them, will tell you that most "shootouts" are over after 3 or maybe 4 shots. Yah, yah, yah, before a replier gets his panties wet, there are the what ifs. In any event, DC, I am with your 100%--hey to each his own. If some of the repliers want to walk around with a wheelbarrow full of ammo, have at it---DC and I just find this "need for extra firepower" to be misplaced, as far as we are concerned. I have enough to carry with that hunk of metal on me--I do not need an assortment of ammo belts, mag holders, etal weighing me down as I approach this armageddon requiring my full battalion-strength resources.

Lets hear it for the "what ifs". How about a double "what if"--- malfunction and a hoard of zombies. How about a triple 'what if"--a malfunction, a hoard of zombies and another malfunction in the middle of the fire fight. I cannot argue with any "what if" and this will always be a case of "to each his own"--you weigh out the potentials for a "what if" and go from there. I am 71 and have never, ever had a need or had to look at a firearm less much a mag or 2 or 3. I guess the "what if" is "there is always tomorrow" even after 71 years. I have enough "stuff" already on my person and that little mag is another slender metal pile of "stuff" that I find to be needless bulk. As far as a mag failure, I would be more concerned with a firearm failure--guess I better have 2 or 3 more of those on my person--more "what ifs". Hey I am just saying. I surely understand the reasons already supplied in replies and I find them to be perfectly reasonable and fine for the repliers' concerned needs. My appreciation of "being ready" is a bit more "relaxed" and comfortable for me.

I agree that this is a personal preference issue, but I am baffled by your logic. You seem to imply that you don't comprehend how a lethal combat situation affects the human body, that you lack the strength to carry what amounts to an extra pound or so of weight that might be critical to survival, that the BG is going to stand still and exposed so you can shoot him, that your life experience is all encompassing rather than limited like other humans, and that at your advanced age you have one foot in the grave anyway so you expouse a cavalier attitude regarding this topic. If you actually do carry a weapon, I wonder why? It would apppear that if your life is endangered you plan to rely 100 percent on dumb luck or you intend to simply drop to the ground dead before your assailant can harm you. Baffling.....
 
I have 16 rounds to stop a threat. Do I really need to carry more? My plan was always to stop the threat long enough to get away and call the police. I'm a scaredy cat, ok. Staying and dying is not my first choice.
Well ask yourself this why do you carry a gun to begin with? Having a extra mag is like having a spare tire in your car or carrying a gun. You carry them for one reason If you need them you want them to be where you need them when you need them.
 
One to three spare mags holding 7 to 27 rounds. Loaded .45ACP mags are heavy but they serve as hammers when the BG looks like a nail.
 
I have 16 rounds to stop a threat. Do I really need to carry more? My plan was always to stop the threat long enough to get away and call the police. I'm a scaredy cat, ok. Staying and dying is not my first choice.

Mag malfunctions and jams happen all the time. It's more about that than running out of ammo. As far as stopping the threat "long enough" if you ever wind up in the situation were you can justify shooting somebody to save your own life, you shoot to kill. If it's not a kill or be killed situation, you probably shouldn't be shooting them in the first place.
 
Because I understand that regardless of how well made or how well maintained a gun is it is still a man made machine ...and because it is man made and man maintained.. it can fail.

And because I understand that any gun (man made machine) that is depended upon to support or save a life/lives can fail just exactly when it is desperately needed to save a life...

I carry two guns just in case one of them runs out of ammo and I can't use both hands to slip in a new magazine... or because one of them decided to quit working for whatever reason and fixing it will take more time than simply drawing the other one.

I find it amazing that so many people believe that during a save your butt encounter they will always have both hands available to rack the slide/change a mag/clear a malfunction. I guess folks don't realize it's not going to be like on TV where the good guys hide behind the buckboard on one side of the street and shoot at the bad guys hiding behind the water trough on the other side of the street but quite often by the time that shots are fired both good guy and bad guy are so close each can count the other guy's nose hairs.. and being able to use both hands to manipulate the gun to clear it just may not be possible nor will there be enough time to clear a stubborn jam.

Y'all make your own choices as to what you will carry and how .... but for me, just for me, if I have to depend on a man made machine to save my arse .. my arse is worth having two of those machines with both ready to go just in case.
 
I find it amazing that so many people believe that during a save your butt encounter they will always have both hands available to rack the slide/change a mag/clear a malfunction.


It's due mostly to a serve lack of training and a belief in the "My Gunfight" scenario.
 
I have 16 rounds to stop a threat. Do I really need to carry more? My plan was always to stop the threat long enough to get away and call the police. I'm a scaredy cat, ok. Staying and dying is not my first choice.

Not trying to insult you, but you are being niave. But, many people who have never been shot at or had to shoot back, often are.
You may not be planning for it, but it doesn't mean you won't need it.

Mine holds 16 as well, and I also carry 2 extra full mags. And, I wouldn't go with less.

Many times .... restaurant and other similar robbers are 3-4 people, all waving guns and herding people into the back room. So... you have 4 shots per person to use and still survive.

2 officers and 1 BG...... gunfight lasted about 30 seconds , the officers shot 68 rounds ... and he shot lots as well, before it was over.
 
I have 16 rounds to stop a threat. Do I really need to carry more? My plan was always to stop the threat long enough to get away and call the police. I'm a scaredy cat, ok. Staying and dying is not my first choice.

Sounds like you already answered your own question.
 
I saw on youtube, a LEO shot a pitbull 11 times, missed 5 and the pit almost killed the him. Another LEO had to use a shotgun to bring the dog down.Thats why I carry extra mags.
 
Of course once a pitbull is on you it might be hard to change mags. :dirol:

Don't know how anyone can own a gun with less than 2 mags? Always carry a spare loaded mag.
 

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