Ever wonder why railroad tracks have such odd spacing?

CharlieK

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The US standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number.

Why was that gauge used? Because that's the way they built them in England , and English expatriates designed the US railroads.

Why did the English build them like that? Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gauge they used.

Why did 'they' use that gauge then? Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and tools that they had used for building wagons, which used that wheel spacing.

Why did the wagons have that particular odd wheel spacing?

Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would break on some of the old, long distance road in England , because that's the spacing of the wheel ruts.

So who built those old rutted roads? Imperial Rome built the first long distance roads in Europe (including England ) for their legions. Those roads have been used ever since.

And the ruts in the roads? Roman war chariots formed the initial ruts, which everyone else had to match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels.

Since the chariots were made for Imperial Rome, they were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing. Therefore, the United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches is derived from the original specifications for an Imperial Roman war chariot. In other words, bureaucracies live forever.

So the next time you are handed a specification/procedure/process, and wonder, 'What horse's ass came up with this?' , you may be exactly right.

Imperial Roman army chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the rear ends of two war horses.

Now, the twist to the story:

When you see a Space Shuttle sitting on its launch pad, you will notice that there are two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel tank. These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. The SRBs are made by Thiokol at their factory in Utah.

The engineers who designed the SRBs would have preferred to make them a bit larger, but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the launch site. The railroad line from the factory happens to run through a tunnel in the mountains, and the SRBs had to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is slightly wider than the railroad track, and the railroad track, as you now know, is about as wide as two horses' behinds.

So, a major Space Shuttle design feature of what is arguably the world's most advanced transportation system was determined over two thousand years ago by the width of a horse's ass. And you thought being a horse's ass wasn't important?

So, Horse's Asses control almost everything...
...Explains a whole lot of things, doesn't it?
 
There are many things that we wonder "who came up with that stupid figure or whatever" and usually no one knows the actual reason For instand why the 74 minute length of a CD recording (To hold Beethoven's 9th) or who was Murphy of Murphy's law. (He was a real person who died in 1990).

The rail gauge may have its roots in ancient Rome but there is probably a little more to it. Maybe someone can tell me why we have a .410 gauge shotgun instead of something that makes sense.
 
Anyone who likes this kind of stuff should check out the BBC series "Connections" (and the sequels) hosted by James Burke. Every once in a while they'll show up on BBC America, Discovery, etc.
 
The story of the railroad gauges was around long before Al Gore invented the internet and snopes is not the endall on facts.
 
Anyone who likes this kind of stuff should check out the BBC series "Connections" (and the sequels) hosted by James Burke. Every once in a while they'll show up on BBC America, Discovery, etc.

I would love to own the DVD of that series. It was a fascinating show.
 
There are many things that we wonder "who came up with that stupid figure or whatever" and usually no one knows the actual reason For instand why the 74 minute length of a CD recording (To hold Beethoven's 9th) or who was Murphy of Murphy's law. (He was a real person who died in 1990).

The rail gauge may have its roots in ancient Rome but there is probably a little more to it. Maybe someone can tell me why we have a .410 gauge shotgun instead of something that makes sense.

The .410 "gauge" shot shell is an American invention. Not a true "gauge", but rather a "caliber". This shot shell was designed to be fired from a .45 cal barrel. The diameter of the shot shell needed to be reduced from .45 inches to .410 inches to accommodate the hull of the shot shell.
 
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Would someone please explain to this latest horse's ass what OFF TOPIC means.[/QUOTE]

Im tired of some of the horses asses around here. Im done.
 
snopes.com reads like a spin doctor protecting some idiot politican's position that nobody gives a rats a__ about.

wikipedia has crediability
 
It doesn't really matter if it's true or not, so long as you aren't using it to defend a thesis or something. It's a cute story. And it does remind me of "Connections," which I adore.
 
snopes.com reads like a spin doctor protecting some idiot politican's position that nobody gives a rats a__ about.

wikipedia has crediability
Wait: a site that's been around for 16 years, and has won awards for its writing and reporting has more credibility with you than a site that anyone with an internet connection can edit? Woooooooow. You do realize that there's no requirement for credentials or expertise or anything on Wikipedia, right? Anyone can edit any article to say anything they like. See this link for more information: Link Removed

snopes.com: Frequently Asked Questions

snopes.com: About the people behind snopes.com

And just for giggles, here's the Wiki article about Snopes, since Wiki has so much credibility in your eyes: Snopes.com - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Funny story indeed. Thank you for sharing it! It's kinda fun to find the various threads of interconnectedness that exist without us even knowing about them.
 
The .410 "gauge" shot shell is an American invention. Not a true "gauge", but rather a "caliber". This shot shell was designed to be fired from a .45 cal barrel. The diameter of the shot shell needed to be reduced from .45 inches to .410 inches to accommodate the hull of the shot shell.

Cool stuff. I'm gunna hit google now and find out how a .357 caliber bullet came to be known as a "thirty eight"...
 
Cool stuff. I'm gunna hit google now and find out how a .357 caliber bullet came to be known as a "thirty eight"...

Standard bore diameter is usually measured from land to land. Some manufacturers decided to measure from land to groove or groove to groove in order to make their product appear "bigger" and therefore more appealing. Both a .38 and .357 bullet will both fit in the same bore, however one is measured differently from the other.
 

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