emt and volunteer fire fighters getting discounts?


who needs a handgun more for their profession?


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gunther37

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I know how we all appreciate the work of a emt. a volunteeer firefighter, etc.
How ever, i noticed how some companys give them discounts under military and law enforcement.
I think those jobs emt/fire fighters deserve discounts. but there are other jobs that should receive them too.

So i wanted to make a poll and send it to the manufacturers so they will open up the discounts to other related jobs with pistols.

so please vote fairly so we can get more jobs that use firearms everyday a discount as well,
here are 2 simple questions

Question. who uses a pistol more for his/her profession?

1.a basic emt (non/police or military related emts) and or a volunteer fireman
or
2.a nra pistol instructor who teaches a class every week/ and or any state concealed pistol inst.


thanks guys and gals. lets get those discounts too all who deserve not just a few

vote away!
 

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mot mayhem

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There is a store here in my hometown that sells uniforms for police & fire. They are a Glock armorer also. They are able to extend a discount for police, fire, ems & hospital employees. They are able to offer other discounts, but Glock gives the best deals to them to pass on. I personally have no problem w/ this, as I am emergency personell.
 

stumpjumper101

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I understand your position as a ccw instructor you too should recieve the same discounts as police fire and ems. I myself have taken advantage of sig sauers first responders discount recently as i am a career and a volunteer paramedic firefighter. these company's are just attempting to reconize all of the hard work that our professions require. I not only have to pull 24 hour shifts away from home, having countless nights of no sleep without any compensation because someone decided that the tooth ache they have had for 3 days has bothered them long enough that they feel the need to wake my whole crew up to take them to the hospital by ambulance only because they will be seen quicker if they arrive in that manner. even though they have 3 cars in the yard and a spouse to drive them, or worse yet go do a drunk driving incident that ends up having 2 fatalitys one of them being your wifes brother and he utters his last words to you just before he passes away and all you can do for him is move on to the next patient who is alive but barely and realize he is also someone close to you that you graduated high school with. they are also reconizing the fact that not only do we put up with situations like the formentioned true scenario's but we have to train appoxamatly 200 - 300 hrs yearly to be proficient in our jobs and it is always evolving into more things like dealing with hazmat and biological agents and even being prepared for radiologic emergencies as well, our medical procedures and training is constantly having to evolve as well its not easy to keep up with. Lots of dedication is put into staying up to date with all the medical procedures that are added to our protocols annually. 343 fire and ems provders lost their lives on 9-11-01 along with a large number of police and port authority personel on that one day, more than any amount of our armed forces have lost in one single day in the last couple of decades. I am not fussing at you for being upset that sometimes we get discounts that the general public dont recieve. i am just trying to let you know what we as individuals have to go through each year. I hope when you contact these companies that you approach it in a manner that gets your profession added to their list, rather than just have them take it from all of us.
 

fuhr52

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I can identify with you Stumpjumper. Been a Volunteer and Paid Firefighter EMT for 40 years. It's not easy to go back to work or to the next call and act like nothing traumatic has happened. Being part of a small community I very often attend to people I know.
 

stumpjumper101

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I can identify with you Stumpjumper. Been a Volunteer and Paid Firefighter EMT for 40 years. It's not easy to go back to work or to the next call and act like nothing traumatic has happened. Being part of a small community I very often attend to people I know.

My hats off to you brother. most people dont even think of us as public safety. i wll never forget my first save of a cardiac arrest patient. we were so proud of ourselves, so we went to visit the man in ICU. do you know what he asked us after we told him who we were. " did you bring me any beer or ciggerettes?" not even a thank you. You know how we got thanked for that one, about a year later his son got intoxicated and started drag racing down one of our streets hitting our fire chief and his wife head on which resulted in his death the next day. Oh and his son fled the scene leaving his friend trapped in the passenger side of his car. Truely its a wonder we even keep our sanity at all. the only thing the public knows about what we do is what they read in the paper " which is sensored"
 

Kaymen

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Ok guys!

over just a regular emt or volunteer fire fighter should.

As an emt and volunteer fire fighter I find your comment both offensive and poorly informed. I am sure if you ever need our services you will rethink that comment and say thank you for the proud and valiant person that just left his family usually in the middle of the night to pull our crack out of the fire.
 

stumpjumper101

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As an emt and volunteer fire fighter I find your comment both offensive and poorly informed. I am sure if you ever need our services you will rethink that comment and say thank you for the proud and valiant person that just left his family usually in the middle of the night to pull our crack out of the fire.

Maybe we should quit what we are doing and tell the dispatchers to send CCW instructors to all our calls. maybe he's qualified to get the elusive cat out of the tree:laugh:
 

stumpjumper101

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Just out of curiosity i searched what it takes to become a nra certified instructor and came up with this site Link Removed and it unfolds like this

basic instructor course 6 Hrs $75.00

Cert pistol 11 Hrs $ 125.00

Cert home safety instructor 5 hrs $95.00

Personal protection inside the home 9Hrs $135.00

Personal protection outside the home 16 Hrs $250.00

Cert rifle instructor 14Hrs $130.00

certified shotgun instructor 11 hrs $135.00

total 72 hrs $945.00


Now lets do a comparison ( prices and hours were obtianed from my departments instructor)


CPR 8 Hrs $50.00

EMT-Basic 121 hrs $600.00

EMT-Enhanced ( first level of advanced Life support) 80 hrs $400.00

EMT_ Intermediate 240 hrs $1800.00

Advanced cardiac Life Supprt ( required for intermediate and above every 2 years) 16 hrs $300.00

EMT-Paramedic 1200 hours $4000.00

Grand total 1665 hrs $7150.00

Alll of these classes with exception of CPR and ACLS require an average of 10 to 15% additional time spent doing clinical hours at hospitals and internships on ambulances as well


Im not even gonna think about trying to break down all the firefighting classes, hazmat classes, explosive classes, responce to terrorism classes. structural collapse classes, equipment operation classes, vehicle extrication classes we have to obtain. So the next time you think of looking down at the Fire/Rescue profession at least you will have some idea of what time and money we have put into just entering our profession!!!
 

HK4U

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I do not have a problem with it. As long as they do not give a discount to our gun grabbing, socialistic politicians.
 
Now keep in mind you don't have to take all the classes to become a nra certified instructor you can take them all if you want to teach them all. But if you only want to teach one or two then you just take the classes that you want. As for Volunteer Fire and EMT up here they don't get paid any thing. Unless they are fighting a forsest fire and even then they get paid vary little for what they do. They do get free training and and gear but thats about it. If it upsets you that much join a department or become a EMT B will only take you about 3 months and then you to can have the discount.
 

gunther37

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ok,
i was a marine for 15years. the first gufl war, iraqi freedom, somalia, and afghan.

i was a sniper and in a recon bn. so when you guys say blood shed ,have seen it.

oh. look dudes ! my whole point is that regular emt and volunteer firefighters is not hard work. IT IS HARD WORK! But i was trying to get a different point across.

MY WHOLE POINT WAS.. buds gun shop says i did not qualify for the law enforcement or military discount.
My whole point is> a nc concelaed instructor is more associated with the law than a regular emt or volunteer fire fighter is...... as far as pistols are concerned!
GET THE POINT?
THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO BY THE WAY........
 
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gunther37

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Now keep in mind you don't have to take all the classes to become a nra certified instructor you can take them all if you want to teach them all. But if you only want to teach one or two then you just take the classes that you want. As for Volunteer Fire and EMT up here they don't get paid any thing. Unless they are fighting a forsest fire and even then they get paid vary little for what they do. They do get free training and and gear but thats about it. If it upsets you that much join a department or become a EMT B will only take you about 3 months and then you to can have the discount.

5 WEEKS HERE IN JACKSONVILLE 8 HOURS A DAY.
but who has time to do that. i know every where else is 5 months twice a week....sucks!
 
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gunther37

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I understand your position as a ccw instructor you too should recieve the same discounts as police fire and ems. I myself have taken advantage of sig sauers first responders discount recently as i am a career and a volunteer paramedic firefighter. these company's are just attempting to reconize all of the hard work that our professions require. I not only have to pull 24 hour shifts away from home, having countless nights of no sleep without any compensation because someone decided that the tooth ache they have had for 3 days has bothered them long enough that they feel the need to wake my whole crew up to take them to the hospital by ambulance only because they will be seen quicker if they arrive in that manner. even though they have 3 cars in the yard and a spouse to drive them, or worse yet go do a drunk driving incident that ends up having 2 fatalitys one of them being your wifes brother and he utters his last words to you just before he passes away and all you can do for him is move on to the next patient who is alive but barely and realize he is also someone close to you that you graduated high school with. they are also reconizing the fact that not only do we put up with situations like the formentioned true scenario's but we have to train appoxamatly 200 - 300 hrs yearly to be proficient in our jobs and it is always evolving into more things like dealing with hazmat and biological agents and even being prepared for radiologic emergencies as well, our medical procedures and training is constantly having to evolve as well its not easy to keep up with. Lots of dedication is put into staying up to date with all the medical procedures that are added to our protocols annually. 343 fire and ems provders lost their lives on 9-11-01 along with a large number of police and port authority personel on that one day, more than any amount of our armed forces have lost in one single day in the last couple of decades. I am not fussing at you for being upset that sometimes we get discounts that the general public dont recieve. i am just trying to let you know what we as individuals have to go through each year. I hope when you contact these companies that you approach it in a manner that gets your profession added to their list, rather than just have them take it from all of us.

and that makes them more related to smith and wesson pistols how?
 

gunther37

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As an emt and volunteer fire fighter I find your comment both offensive and poorly informed. I am sure if you ever need our services you will rethink that comment and say thank you for the proud and valiant person that just left his family usually in the middle of the night to pull our crack out of the fire.

i meant as far as handling a pistol for your line of work.how does your job relate to law enforcement or military over a nc concealedd pistol instructor........who really needs the discount more for there line of work?

are you allowed to carry in the emt truck?
 

stumpjumper101

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thanks for your service to this great nation! most of us Fire and EMS providers like to exercise our second ammendment just as much as you do. we shoot for sport, competition, hunt and practice for self defence as well as prepare ourselves for when the SHTF senario happens. we may not have served on the front lines in some foreign country., but we serve on the front lines in this country and yes we see people blown up by explosives ( when some idiot trys to make homemade fireworks with directions they got off the internet) , we see people shot, beaten, stabbed, burned and so on. and we run into things when everbody is runing away for their dear life. my comment was about the just regular emt or firefighter there is no such thing. we are all professionals career or volunteer it doesnt matter. lots of buisnesses reconize our sacrifice by giving us discounts, they consider us hometown hero's here and now and not only reconize what we do after they have a need for us. If you are looking for a discount simply look to the other manufactures Ie sig sauer gives a direct buy program discount to all law enforcment, and public servie as well as active duty military, discarched military within 90 days of discharge and to retired military in which if you served 20 years you qualify. If you are set on another manufacturers product then provide that manufacturer with a copy of sigs Individual officer program and ask them if they will match it, if they decline then they are'nt someone that i would want to deal with.
 

stumpjumper101

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i meant as far as handling a pistol for your line of work.how does your job relate to law enforcement or military over a nc concealedd pistol instructor........who really needs the discount more for there line of work?

are you allowed to carry in the emt truck?

In Va we are not allowed to carry in any state licenced EMS vehicle, however nothing prohibits us from carrying on a fire truck as long as our department doesnt have apolicy against it. How is concealled carry instruction tied to law enforcement, last time i went it was to teach civillians how to properly handle a firearm, and when you have a right to defend yourself with said firearm.
 

Ceicei

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No objection here...

Ummm.... I'm all for discounts for whoever legally can do so, whatever group they may belong. The more people out there who are able to obtain their firearms, the more there are of us who are (hopefully) advocates for the second amendment--especially among certain professions. Just my 0.02...

Ceicei
 
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wolfhunter

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Look at the marketing side of this:

How many EMS and Firefighting personell will buy an extra handgun if offered a discount?
How many CCW instructors will buy an extra handgun if offered a discount?

I bet there are more people in the first group. Good marketing strategy is to reach the biggest group of potential buyers.

Like Ceicei says, "The more people out there who are able to obtain their firearms, the more there are of us who are (hopefully) advocates for the second amendment--."
 

gunther37

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thanks for your service to this great nation! most of us Fire and EMS providers like to exercise our second ammendment just as much as you do. we shoot for sport, competition, hunt and practice for self defence as well as prepare ourselves for when the SHTF senario happens. we may not have served on the front lines in some foreign country., but we serve on the front lines in this country and yes we see people blown up by explosives ( when some idiot trys to make homemade fireworks with directions they got off the internet) , we see people shot, beaten, stabbed, burned and so on. and we run into things when everbody is runing away for their dear life. my comment was about the just regular emt or firefighter there is no such thing. we are all professionals career or volunteer it doesnt matter. lots of buisnesses reconize our sacrifice by giving us discounts, they consider us hometown hero's here and now and not only reconize what we do after they have a need for us. If you are looking for a discount simply look to the other manufactures Ie sig sauer gives a direct buy program discount to all law enforcment, and public servie as well as active duty military, discarched military within 90 days of discharge and to retired military in which if you served 20 years you qualify. If you are set on another manufacturers product then provide that manufacturer with a copy of sigs Individual officer program and ask them if they will match it, if they decline then they are'nt someone that i would want to deal with.

so in other words...............buds gun shop should take off the title of there advertisement...............
Law enforcement and military discounts.......... since neither of us ( nc concealed instr. emt and firefighter) QUALIFY.

do we all agree on that?
 
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