Elyria homeowner sleeps with gun after burglary, shoots intruder when he comes back

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Elyria homeowner sleeps with gun after burglary, shoots intruder when he comes back for seconds


Submitted by cbaus on Mon, 10/22/2012 - 07:00. Guns in the News


Burglar's family confronts homeowner, says he "should have taken different precautions" against the burglar, who has a record of violence

by Chad D. Baus

The Lorain Morning-Journal is reporting that an Elyria resident fatally shot a burglar who confronted him at home in the early Friday darkness, then hours later he was confronted by the dead man's upset relatives.

From the article:


Police said Jeffrey Carson, 29, of Elyria, broke into a house at 112 Water St. about 2:44 a.m. after getting a friend to boost him up to get in through an unlocked window.

The home’s residents, Jack and Linda Dillon, were awakened by Carson, who was in their living room, believed to be stealing electronics, police said. Jack Dillon called out and Carson lunged at him. Dillon had a handgun and shot Carson, police said.

In a frantic call to 911, Linda Dillon said, "Oh my God, we just had a break-in and we shot him." She continued, "My husband shot him. Oh Jesus. He's on my couch. I think this guy is dead."

Then she thanked God her granddaughter wasn't there.

Linda Dillon also made reference to a burglary Thursday morning in which their $1,700 52-inch Sharp flat-screen television was stolen, according to a police report of the incident. "We knew he was coming back. He unlocked my window," she said. Police have not yet linked Carson to that earlier burglary.

LifeCare ambulance Vice President Herb de la Porte said the Carson was critical at the scene and paramedics took him to EMH Elyria Medical Center, where he died.

The article goes on to report that the deceased burglar's two siblings, Bobbie Kniceley and her brother Johnny Minor Jr., went to the Water Street home a few hours after the shooting and confronted the homeowners, who were just returning home.


"The people just blew his brains out," Kniceley said. "They could have done something else."
The couple got out of their car, approached Kniceley and Minor and retorted, "You don't just go breaking into people's houses."

"Like you really had to shoot someone with a shotgun," Kniceley replied.

As the yelling continued, Jessica Dillon, who lives next door, called the police at 9:37 a.m. to report that the burglary suspect's family members were outside 112 Water St. causing trouble, according to an Elyria police log.

The couple yelled at Carson's family to get off their property. Carson’s family members slowly backed away yelling that the Dillons didn't have to kill their brother.

Minutes later police showed up and de-escalated the situation and sent everyone on their way.

The couple declined to comment.

Kniceley admitted Carson had a criminal record for assault, theft and domestic violence. However, she said, "They should have taken different precautions."

Kniceley was notified of the shooting about 4:30 a.m. Another brother, Matt Green, said the family wasn't getting consistent information from authorities.

"We wanted closure; now the family is stuck. We are all confused and upset," he said.

Green last saw Carson Thursday around 6:30 p.m. Carson didn't say anything about planning to break into a house, Green said.

"I'm not saying he was perfect, but he didn't deserve it," Green said.

Carson worked at Green Circle Growers in Oberlin, was laid off and had since gotten another job. Green said he knows his brother had a criminal past, liked to fight and had been behind bars on and off since he was 17 years old. Despite Carson’s past, Green said the situation could have been resolved differently.

According to the article, police are not releasing details about the gun used to shoot Carson or how many times he was shot or where. When asked if the shooting was justified or would be considered self defense, Elyria police Lt. Andy Eichenlaub said, "I'm not going to speculate. The investigation is ongoing."

Under Ohio's Castle Doctrine law, if someone unlawfully enters or attempts to enter an occupied home or temporary habitation, or occupied car, citizens have an initial presumption that they may act in self defense, and will not be second-guessed by the State
 
I guess he got what he's worked for since he was 17.:sarcastic:
Some people hav'ta learn the hard way...
 
Family of criminal says "he didn't deserve to get shot..."

Really?
REALLY?

Family is lucky they didn't get shot when they aggressively trespassed!
 
As far as I'm concerned, he got what he deserved. I'd do the same in that situation.

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Sadly, the new media and the family of the bad guys always get it twisted. The news media always wants to put the burden on the lawful gun owner and the family swears that there relative was a good person even thought they have a longer than there arm. These bads guys need to ask themselve several questions when they get up in the morning. They need to ask themselves. Am I ready to die on this day when I go out here and choose to rape, rob, home invade, steal and break and enter? If the answer it yes, then proceed on with the knowledge that you may get killed.
 
Perhaps we should start an effort to educate families of known criminals (and others as needed) to explain that their family member can be killed while pursuing their job or hobby; whatever. Then they will know that he/she did indeed legally deserve it. And there is not a damn thing they can do about other than preventing the crime.

I do believe that the burgled family made a serious error in saying they knew he was coming back since he had unlocked a window. By not relocking the window or reporting it to the police in relation to the original burglary, they may well have placed themselves in legal jeopardy. The scum bag, however, received his just desserts.
 
Ok, let me get this straight. Someone breaks into your house once and sets it up so they can break in again and you should have a "sit down" with them and discuss why they did it and why they're there? Seriously? Like I always say, I'm not in the business of teaching people how to miss and I'm not teaching "intruder negotiations". If you don't have a key and receive mail there, you don't belong there. You want to visit me knock at the door or ring the bell like normal folk and do it before 2am unless we're that tight. People that know me call first because the bell or knocking set my dogs off.

People should also realize that when you make your job invading other people's space, taking the things they work hard for and threatening their lives and peace, everyone may not "play pretty". Death becomes a workplace hazard. That is all.
 
Well said. I would like to know what the intruder's family's plan would be if they were in a similar situation.
 
I'd like to point out a serious issue. With the news spreading as fast as it does, and the ease at which one can find information on people, the media and law enforcement need to start protecting names and addresses of victims (I mean the real victims... the home owners). Too much potential for "retaliation" by the perps "loved ones" (siblings, parents, fellow gang bangers, etc.) Posting full names and/or full street address of victims needs to be stopped. Ironically the street address of the thug's family isn't readily posted for all to see.

These people already went through a very traumatizing situation, having been violated in their own home, and now they have to deal with more selfish, immoral, idiots.
 
Kniceley admitted Carson had a criminal record for assault, theft and domestic violence. However, she said, "They should have taken different precautions."
Kniceley was notified of the shooting about 4:30 a.m. Another brother, Matt Green, said the family wasn't getting consistent information from authorities.
"We wanted closure; now the family is stuck. We are all confused and upset," he said.
Green last saw Carson Thursday around 6:30 p.m. Carson didn't say anything about planning to break into a house, Green said.
"I'm not saying he was perfect, but he didn't deserve it," Green said.


Hey 'Knicely'....This scumbag BURGLAR is the one who should have taken different precautions by not breaking into someones home and STEALING their private belongings!

The burglars family wants 'closure'?
How's this for closure?
Your violent, low life thieving scumbag family member is now worm food.
Case closed!

Now the violent idiots family members are 'confused & upset'?
Let me clarify your clouded brains....Scumbag commits numerous violent crimes = Scumbag is shot dead.
Does that help to 'clarify' things for these ignorant morons?

Green said that "He was not perfect, but he didn't deserve it."
What about the real victims Mr Green? The HOMEOWNERS who were VIOLATED & Threatened??

SMMFH!
 
Kniceley admitted Carson had a criminal record for assault, theft and domestic violence. However, she said, "They should have taken different precautions."
Kniceley was notified of the shooting about 4:30 a.m. Another brother, Matt Green, said the family wasn't getting consistent information from authorities.
"We wanted closure; now the family is stuck. We are all confused and upset," he said.
Green last saw Carson Thursday around 6:30 p.m. Carson didn't say anything about planning to break into a house, Green said.
"I'm not saying he was perfect, but he didn't deserve it," Green said.


Hey 'Knicely'....This scumbag BURGLAR is the one who should have taken different precautions by not breaking into someones home and STEALING their private belongings!

The burglars family wants 'closure'?
How's this for closure?
Your violent, low life thieving scumbag family member is now worm food.
Case closed!

Now the violent idiots family members are 'confused & upset'?
Let me clarify your clouded brains....Scumbag commits numerous violent crimes = Scumbag is shot dead.
Does that help to 'clarify' things for these ignorant morons?

Green said that "He was not perfect, but he didn't deserve it."
What about the real victims Mr Green? The HOMEOWNERS who were VIOLATED & Threatened??

SMMFH!

^ Exactly!

Amazes me how some people are so stupid :confused:
 

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