Many 'think" Jeff never missed in combat, he tended to encourage that myth.

Many "think" Elmer had lots of combat experience, but he had none. I've held men at gunpoint 5x in my life.

i've had a dozen other confrontations (or near-attacks, when I would have been justified in drawing, but I either wasn't packing (misdemeanor where I was) or something intervened just in time. Once, my lw commander "caught' on the bottom of a table, when a large teenager at a full run rounded the corner of an open air taco bell, in S cal, carrying an UZI. I saw "man with smg" and the gun came out of the belly rig. Then I saw the water dripping off of the muzzle of an UZI. Kids in cities are very stupid to be messing around in such a manner. 1986, there was no coloring or marks at all to indicate that it was not the real deal. He came within about 3/4 second of being shot.