Educating a "Distant Relative" regarding America's fascination with firearms and how

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Educating a "Distant Relative" regarding America's fascination with firearms and how

I had a distant relative in the UK post on my Facebook page and question how Americans are fascinated with handguns, why we shoot targets that represent humans, and how a Christian could ever use deadly force. Here is her question and my reply to her. How do you think I did? she thanked me for explaining my position!
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Charlie,

we look at the USA from a distance and we find it difficult to understand the passion Americans have for guns. However, I appreciate the skills involved (I am not a bad shot myself) but why do all your targets have to be placed on the silhouettes of people? The message seems to be clear - guns are made to shoot people, through the heart if possible. Not sure how you square this with a true Christian approach?

Hilary,

I do understand your questions regarding Americans’ fascination with firearms as well as your concern that a “true Christian” mindset may not permit a person to use deadly force. I could go on for hours to try to convince you of my opinions, I understand that you may not feel the way that I do….. and you do have the right to feel that way.

First, let me explain that the people in the photos on my website and Facebook page have just completed a DEFENSIVE class in which they’ve learned to shoot a person that is posing a deadly threat, center mass, until the threat is neutralized and no longer is a threat. Those photos create a legal record for me, as their instructor, to be able to refer to a specific student’s qualification on a specific date with a specific weapon. Please don’t misinterpret those photos as pictures of “plinkers” or general gun enthusiasts that are just out target practicing. These students are learning to wrap their heads around the facts that in a DEFENSIVE situation, they may need to protect the lives of a stranger, their loved ones, or maybe themselves from serious injury, sexual assault, or death by using justified self defense. NC Law will allow these students, once they pass an FBI background investigation, to carry weapons concealed so that they protect themselves or others if the need arises. 38 other states in the USA also recognize the NC Concealed Handgun Permits in their states as well.

Unfortunately, the crime rate here in Rocky Mount, NC has propelled us into having the rank of 41st most violent city in the United States of America. I do not leave my home without carrying my weapon(s) concealed. That is my right, and I do exercise that right daily. Am I paranoid? No…. I am prepared. I think of my weapon(s) as something that I hope that I will never have to use….. like the fire extinguisher or the first aid kit in my car…. I hope that I never need them, but they are there if I need them. That is the “first rule to winning a gunfight.” RULE #1: Have a gun. My students, after completing the entire concealed handgun permitting process will be the armed citizens that are certified as sane, sober, and competent. Violent crime is not typically committed by persons with concealed carry permits, but by the criminal element that by definition, don’t obey laws.

Now to answer your “true Christian” conundrum: There is a Biblical obligation to preserve life. Our bodies belong to God. They are His property and should not be destroyed. That being said, we also have an obligation to protect others who are in danger. Psalm 82:4 “Rescue the weak and needy; Deliver them out of the hand of the wicked.” Also consider Ezekiel 33:6 “But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet, and the people are not warned, and a sword comes and takes a person from them, he is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood I will require from the watchman’s hand.” In Luke 22:35-39, Jesus tells the disciples to go buy swords. He evidently wanted them for protection as they traveled. Jesus did say that 2 swords were enough. (Incidentally, I usually have 2 concealed handguns on me at any given time. Ha! WWJD?)

Several years ago, I was riding in my car with my sales manager and he looked in the console of my car, being nosey. He discovered a holstered snub-nosed stainless steel Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum. He asked me almost the same thing you did: “Charlie, why would a “Christian” carry such a deadly weapon?” I replied: “Well, Dave…. I guess that, as a Christian, I am not afraid of telling someone about the saving Grace of Jesus Christ. As an armed citizen, I am not afraid to introduce them to each other if I need to.”
Hilary, I know that we could go on-and-on with this. I respect your right to have a different opinion, and I hope that you respect my right to have the ability to protect my life and the lives of my loved ones if the need to do that ever arises. If you ever visit Eastern NC, please look me up. Even though you aren’t a citizen of NC, I am inviting you to sit in on one of my classes, at no charge, so that you can see the perspective from my side after the full eight hour required classroom training in addition to the range time.
Now that we got that settled, how about let’s have a “Tea Party”! And back to the original “fascination by Americans with firearms”, I could’ve answered you with a “mere sentence.” Amendment II: “A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

As Ever,

Charlie Mayo


"just keepin', and bearin'....."
"Praise the Lord, pass the ammunition!"
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One thing you could tell your friend is that when you are shooting at targets you are competing against yourself. There are a number of other sports where you are competing against yourself. Golf and bowling comes to mind. In golf the ultimate goal is a hole in one! Bowling it's a strike! In shooting you try to put each round through the same hole!
Granted those of us who carry shoot for training but we also do compete against ourselves and try to improve each time at the range.

I do not play golf so I have not understood the fascination with that game. But I do have friends who love the game. I know they do not understand why I love guns and shooting.

The bottom line is this old saying, "A man and his truck! If I have to explain it you would not understand!"
 
Ask him how a British soldier, who's in his home ton and minding his own business, should defend himself when attacked by two muslims with machete's, hacking him to death in the village square. If he had a gun would he have stood and watched?
 
I think you did a good job of answering the question.
I have never understood the nonsensical belief that some have about Christians turning the other cheek should mean that we let other people murder us, rob us, rape us and do just about anything else that they some bad guy wants to do to us. I also like to point out one of the parables Jesus used in Matthew 24:
42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

What would a home owner do if he knew the time of night that a thief was coming? If we are to follow the misguided misconception of turning the other cheek then we should purchase a moving van so it will be ready for the thief and allow the thief to take everything he wants from your house. This is not what Jesus was saying. Jesus uses this parable because it is natural for us to want to protect our self and our belongings. The homeowner in the parable would stay awake and wait so that he could stop the thief from stealing from his home. Jesus didn't use parables about going to prostitutes or other activities that were wrong. I have a hard time believing it is wrong to protect your self, others and your home.
 
Might point out there are many types of targets... I rarely use a silhouette target at all, or anything else resembling a person.
 
Might point out there are many types of targets... I rarely use a silhouette target at all, or anything else resembling a person.

CJ, the NC requirements specify silhouette target for conceal carry qualification. I use the State approved NC Justice Academy B-27NCJA target


"just keepin', and bearin'....."
"Praise the Lord, pass the ammunition!"
Certified NRA Firearms Instructor
NCJA Certified NC Concealed Handgun Permit Instructor
GRNC.org Member
 
CJ, the NC requirements specify silhouette target for conceal carry qualification. I use the State approved NC Justice Academy B-27NCJA target
Same in most states as far as I know... that wasn't the point. The question was asked about the targets... your answer only said "we have to" not... "while we have to for certification, there are many different types of targets used highly by people all over the US in other situations"
 
Same in most states as far as I know... that wasn't the point. The question was asked about the targets... your answer only said "we have to" not... "while we have to for certification, there are many different types of targets used highly by people all over the US in other situations"

Good point. Now i understand what you were saying.


"just keepin', and bearin'....."
"Praise the Lord, pass the ammunition!"
Certified NRA Firearms Instructor
NCJA Certified NC Concealed Handgun Permit Instructor
GRNC.org Member
 
CJ, the NC requirements specify silhouette target for conceal carry qualification. I use the State approved NC Justice Academy B-27NCJA target


"just keepin', and bearin'....."
"Praise the Lord, pass the ammunition!"
Certified NRA Firearms Instructor
NCJA Certified NC Concealed Handgun Permit Instructor
GRNC.org Member
NC requires you qualify?
 
NC requires you qualify?

Yes. NC has both a classroom exam on legal issues regarding concealed carry and the use of deadly force as well as a practical qualification. The qualification is so very simple. The student shoots 10 rounds from the 3 yd, 5 yd, and 7 yd lines. The student must hit the silhouette 21 of the 30 times (70%). I taught a class today of 12 students. 11 of the 12 shot 100%, the remaining student shot 90%, hitting the target 27 of the 30 shots.


"just keepin', and bearin'....."
"Praise the Lord, pass the ammunition!"
Certified NRA Firearms Instructor
NCJA Certified NC Concealed Handgun Permit Instructor
GRNC.org Member
 
Perhaps your English friend, after their own government banned firearms, found the homicide rate went up, instead of down, with murderers using other instruments of weaponry to kill their victims? It's the person, not the gun.

We in America have a heritage of protecting ourselves, our own, and possibly others from maniacal murderers, who will always be armed with firearms and other tools of murder, no matter the law. What part of protecting ourselves from these crazed, armed whackos does the U.K. not understand?

Look at your own statistics (and many are swept under the rug, kept from citizens view) and those of Australia's regarding homicides after firearms bans.

The muder rate went up. Wrap your head around that for a minute. Ban something and criminals find something else to kill innocent citizens in your countries, and others, and still have access to banned firearms. A bit ironic, no? Ban firearms and watch the helpless citizens led to slaughter.

What I find fascinating is the total ignorance with which your countries have approached rising homicide rates, by banning firearms! I hate to use the word stupid, but will be respectful and use the words, blatantly ignorant.

Your own country's molly-coddling of criminals also surges to the forefront of blatant ignorance.

We in America will not willingly become victims of a society out of control, and we will take steps to protect ourselves while Australia tries to figure-out exactly what a home invasion is, and the U.K. tries to figure-out where they went horribly wrong banning firearms.

The lessons of history are doomed to repeat, if complacent and ignorant lawmakers are left to rule society as they wish.

We in America give-a-damn about the lives of self, loved ones, and others, which is why we are an armed society, and won't wait around for the carnage to follow if guns are attempted to be banned.

Christians have an obligation to God, and history to defend themselves from murderers and government tyranny, and I'll be damned if I change that attitude for the rest of my life, however short or long it lasts.

Reading scriptures from the Bible when a madman is trying to kill me is not a plausible defense. If I survive the encounter, I then will read scriptures from the Bible, dealing specifically with taking-up swords and other implements to save my life, in the name of God.

Turning the other cheek to a murderer is not what the biblical quotes say. Life is precious, and in my family, will not be snuffed by the insane.

If there is any more direct referral to what is happening here in the United States, perhaps someone else will post it.

Most of our violent crimes are in large cities in America, where gangs and class warfare are waging, and the police seem powerless to stop it.

The subjugation of citizens in the U.S. will come at a high price; loss of human life. Our government knows this, and the ice is thin, where they are going.

Let me finish by saying violent crime is at an all-time low in this country, and has been on the decline for years. A truth our own mainstream media will never publish, as they are only mouthpieces and ventriloquists' dummies, spouting the lies and racism of our present criminal administration, for ingestion by our low-information (read stupid), government dependent idiots.
 

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