Dual citizenship??? please answer

[timmithy]

First of all, this may be in the wrong forum, i didnt see any better one though, so please redirect me if im wrong.

Now, i am Canadian, a proud canadian at that, but our gun laws are, well, crap to say the least. i was wondering what your laws are on dual citizenship? Would i be able to get dual citizenship and buy guns in america? or would i be stuck to going to gun ranges on vacations? obviously, im not going to get dual citizenship just so i can buy guns, it was just out of curiosity that me and a buddy had.

Thank you

 

[tuts40]

How about moving to the U.S.? Not only can you be proud to be a citizen of and living in the country that keeps the rest of this continent safe via your military then, but you can own guns and shoot to your hearts content!

 

[Samuel]

Having dual-citizenship does not limit you in any way when it comes to owner, buying, possessing and using firearms. Only when you renounce your United States citizenship does it permanently affect you.

I have several friends that have dual-citizenship, and one that has dual-citizenship in Canada and he is not limited purchasing, possessing or owning firearms while in the United States. With that being said, they live here permanently and visit their home countries occasionally.

I have one friend that moved from England specifically because of the gun laws. If you do decide to become a United States citizen, I wish you the best of luck and with open arms.

 

[localgirl]

I'm not totally sure about the dual thing, but what's being said here makes sense. Even legal aliens can buy and possess guns in the U.S. if they have maintained residency for ninety days and possess a valid hunting license (a concession, I think, for things like outfitted hunts).

 

[timmithy]

Honestly, I live Canada and think their military tactics are better, but I've had to many arguememts with Americans i really don't wanna start another, also I'm only fifteen, so I'm not gonna become one, especially in the near future, it was mere curiosity, maybe when I'm Older ill think about, but it's a slim chance, I lOve Canada, just not it's gun laws, before 1995 we had good laws but after that, it's pretty much only hunting rifles, and some handguns for home protection.

 

[timmithy]

But thanks for the info, I'm definitely going to America some day for a trip to the gun range tho, for the experience

 

[B2Tall]

US citizens in Canada are bound by the same gun laws that Canadians are. You would not be able to circumvent your laws just by having US citizenship. Some firearms that you purchased in the US (like pistols w/ a barrel length of less than 4") are banned outright in Canada so you wouldn't even be able to bring them home.

 

[tuts40]

Honestly, I live Canada and think their military tactics are better, but I've had to many arguememts with Americans i really don't wanna start another, also I'm only fifteen, so I'm not gonna become one, especially in the near future, it was mere curiosity, maybe when I'm Older ill think about, but it's a slim chance, I lOve Canada, just not it's gun laws, before 1995 we had good laws but after that, it's pretty much only hunting rifles, and some handguns for home protection.

You are wise beyond your years. I'm curious tho as to where you obtained tactical data between our military's... If we removed our seal units, recon professionals, special forces and various clandestine units, I suppose we are very similar indeed, eh? No argument wanted by me either, but YOU did mention something about military tactical superiority. Just be glad you are not living in France!

 

[Scouse]

At 15? Good thought process

I lived in Canada for 40 years, England till 1965, left at age 30, went to Australia till 1968, then to Canada, till 2003, now a US Citizen, with Brit Passport/Canadian passport. My Son was a Citizen when I came down here, that is how I obtained my Green Card, then 5 years later my Citizenship.

Ontario has a basic 6 month winter, Florida, NOT, no Snow! I will be 76 YOA this month, carry a Glock 19 9mm Pistol every day. You are more free in the US of A, than any other Country in the World.

The comments on the Canadian Military being better than the US? Bit of a strech that. My Stepson served 25 years in the Canadian Armed Forces, now retired.

One thing I would urge you to do, when you get a little older, travel.

Grow straight, never smoke.

 

[timmithy]

i agree, our military is small compared to yours, but its kinda good, because our military doesnt pose much threat to enemy, so they dont worry about us, also, our military has never backed down to any battle, and we've done things other militaries (bigger and smaller), could not achieve. so, your military offers more protection, while ours, is small and almost useless to the point no one cares about us... also, B2tall, i maeant could i become a dual citizens, own a house in america and buy guns there, and keep them there, not bring themback to Canada, obviously i couldnt do that, you cant even bring firearms across some states.

I hope i didnt come across as negative or mean, if i did, i meant no disrespect to anyone
thank you

 

[jg1967]

You have to check first what Canada says about it. As a rule of thumb, neither the US nor most other countries allow double citizenship aside of getting it by birth.

 

[B2Tall]

also, B2tall, i maeant could i become a dual citizens, own a house in america and buy guns there, and keep them there, not bring themback to Canada, obviously i couldnt do that, you cant even bring firearms across some states.

You don't need to be a citizen to buy a house here or (I believe) to buy guns. If you had a friend in the states you could keep them at their house.

It might already be done but I was thinking it would be a good idea to have a gun store/range near the border (on the US side) where Canadian citizens who live close by could store firearms that they own but can't bring into their home country. The range could charge a monthly fee that would cover storage as well as shooting.

 

[Samuel]

You have to check first what Canada says about it. As a rule of thumb, neither the US nor most other countries allow double citizenship aside of getting it by birth.

This is not true.

Dual-citizenship in the United States allow citizenship through naturalization or by marriage.

The U.S. Department of State website has a page stating this - US State Department Services Dual Nationality

I have friends that are from Sweden, Denmark, England, New Zealand, South Africa and Canada who have obtained dual-citizenship through naturalization.

On a side note, I went to the academy with a guy who was a Nigerian citizen by birth, Haitian citizen by naturalization and residency. He served in the Haitian military, and then the United States Army, became a United States citizen by naturalization. He has dual citizenship in Haiti and the United States, and could obtain additional citizenship from Nigeria if he wanted to.

 

[Scouse]

The US does not care if you have a Canadian passport, Brit, and US! If there is a War!! You have to fight for the US. Thats not going to happen, yes.

So which ever Country you go in to, use that passport. That's dual Citizenship yes?

There are Brits who shoot with us, leave their guns here, Canadians who cross the border to shoot, and go home at the end of the shoot, cross at the Falls NYS.

 

[jg1967]

This is not true.

Dual-citizenship in the United States allow citizenship through naturalization or by marriage.

The U.S. Department of State website has a page stating this - US State Department Services Dual Nationality

I have friends that are from Sweden, Denmark, England, New Zealand, South Africa and Canada who have obtained dual-citizenship through naturalization.

On a side note, I went to the academy with a guy who was a Nigerian citizen by birth, Haitian citizen by naturalization and residency. He served in the Haitian military, and then the United States Army, became a United States citizen by naturalization. He has dual citizenship in Haiti and the United States, and could obtain additional citizenship from Nigeria if he wanted to.

It is true as a matter of policy, note that there are exceptions.

US State Department Services Dual Nationality

 

[ncpatriot]

I briefly visited Canada in 1979, southern Ontario, city of Kingston & small town of Enterprise. I met lots of good people & loved the beautiful countryside. Would love to visit again. But I am sad that such a fine nation would come to distrust its citizens so much & increasingly restrict their liberties.

I am pretty sure to become a US citizen, you must renounce active citizenship in any other country. If the other country still recognizes some or all those rights of citizenship, you would effectively have dual status. Others are correct though, that you would have to live here to enjoy the liberties of our nation. You could not live in Canada & be protected.

 

[Tucker's Mom]

I have dual citizenship. I am an Australian and an American. I live here permanently and visit my house in Australia at least once a year to check that my son who lives in my house over there don't turn it into a brothel or something.. <g> so far, so good. But I tell you what, once you start living here, no matter how much you say you love your country, you either stay here or go back home. It is easy for you because Canada is just across the border and in the same mainland. I will have a lot of difficulty doing that with my original country and here. Anyway, once you got the hang of living here, no matter how great you think your country of origin is, think about it -- you can only be loyal to one country. It was how I felt after living here for a very good while, whereas I fought tooth and nails to come and live here at first. Now I will fight tooth and nails to help protect the right and the freedom I continue to enjoy living here.

I bought my first gun while I wasn't a citizen yet. I have bought many after I became a citizen (before the boat accident), tried many that fits my little hand -- but I can't bring it with me to Oz, not even a pepper spray. I feel so helpless when I go to Oz so I make my stay as short as possible.

Come here, live here and be a citizen...a loyal citizen. You won't regret it.

 

[Scouse]

I have dual citizenship. I am an Australian and an American. I live here permanently and visit my house in Australia at least once a year to check that my son who lives in my house over there don't turn it into a brothel or something.. <g> so far, so good. But I tell you what, once you start living here, no matter how much you say you love your country, you either stay here or go back home. It is easy for you because Canada is just across the border and in the same mainland. I will have a lot of difficulty doing that with my original country and here. Anyway, once you got the hang of living here, no matter how great you think your country of origin is, think about it -- you can only be loyal to one country. It was how I felt after living here for a very good while, whereas I fought tooth and nails to come and live here at first. Now I will fight tooth and nails to help protect the right and the freedom I continue to enjoy living here.

I bought my first gun while I wasn't a citizen yet. I have bought many after I became a citizen (before the boat accident), tried many that fits my little hand -- but I can't bring it with me to Oz, not even a pepper spray. I feel so helpless when I go to Oz so I make my stay as short as possible.

Come here, live here and be a citizen...a loyal citizen. You won't regret it.

He is a bit young to make those kind of moves! 15?

But I agree with you, I think I was always an American in my mind, lived in Canada 40 years, never felt Canadian, in Australia, for 3, could have stayed there, had a Wife then who hated Aussy, we moved to Canada, divorced, new Wife of 18 years, she just got her Green Card, had to wait till I became a Citizen, we love Florida/Orlando.

Still a Canadian Citizen, Canada was good to me.

Born in England? You are always a Brit, you can not renounce your Citizenship like an American can. Step off a plane, "Welcome Home" fit right in to all the Social Services.

But landing in Orlando, and seeing that smile, and hearing "WELCOME HOME!" We are home. Then to the safe, Glock 19, in a holster, freedom!!

 

[Tucker's Mom]

Oh...one day he will. Most Canadians I know so far love to live/move here. We call them "Americans Without Guns".

Australia was good to me too. I didn't say she-wasn't-right-mate! And I missed her too -- sometimes...but when I recently think of going on a train to go somewhere and think of going back to my house the same way, I may vanished all thoughts of my safety but with years of training myself to condition 1, there is that empty spot on my waistline...you know that feeling???--helplessness? With some of my photography gears in tow wherever I go, it will be nice not to include a wasp spray with it...For many years now, it has been a standard question to ask "Can I bring my gun" when planning for a trip...e.g. our trip to the Dominican Republic last month. Is Australia safe? so far, to me, it is or we won't be having this conversation...but crime doesn't choose a place and time. I just want to feel more ready and safer.

I like your last sentence...<g>

 

[ncpatriot]

I have dual citizenship. I am an Australian and an American. I live here permanently and visit my house in Australia at least once a year to check that my son who lives in my house over there don't turn it into a brothel or something.. <g> so far, so good. But I tell you what, once you start living here, no matter how much you say you love your country, you either stay here or go back home. It is easy for you because Canada is just across the border and in the same mainland. I will have a lot of difficulty doing that with my original country and here. Anyway, once you got the hang of living here, no matter how great you think your country of origin is, think about it -- you can only be loyal to one country. It was how I felt after living here for a very good while, whereas I fought tooth and nails to come and live here at first. Now I will fight tooth and nails to help protect the right and the freedom I continue to enjoy living here.

I bought my first gun while I wasn't a citizen yet. I have bought many after I became a citizen (before the boat accident), tried many that fits my little hand -- but I can't bring it with me to Oz, not even a pepper spray. I feel so helpless when I go to Oz so I make my stay as short as possible.

Come here, live here and be a citizen...a loyal citizen. You won't regret it.

Welcome to America. Buying your 1st gun before completing citizenship is a good example that a legal resident alien here has more liberty than a citizen in some nations. Some nations don't even allow guns for their citizens, much less for aliens.

I think it is a real shame that countries we've always thought of as civilized, advanced nations have clamped down on the liberties of their citizens, or rather, subjects. Australia, Britain, Canada, etc.